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Subject: Where Was The Didact When The Halo Array Fired?


Posted by: lime013

Well, he was a Promethean, and Prometheans are nonorganic. If he was organic originally, he could have went through some changes.


Are you saying it might be possible for prometheans to go from organic to nonorganic ,if so can or could they revert back to organic .

  • 06.29.2012 2:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
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Weren't the Halos at the Capitol covered in hard light shield or fleeing through the portal to the Ark? I don't think many people could have got there in time. As for why they didn't hide on the Halos I think it is more of a space limitation. The Forerunners had several million worlds, many of them housing billions of forerunners. With only 7 Halos by the end, a good chunk of their population would have no where to go. That would also make the Halos a huge target because they Flood could then wipe out the Forerunners and destroy their super weapons in one blow. Besides, the Whinchester nearly got them all killed.

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Isn't it mentioned in Primordium that upon a Halo firing, it's surface is shunted into fractal space to protect the inhabitants?

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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Isn't it mentioned in Primordium that upon a Halo firing, it's surface is shunted into fractal space to protect the inhabitants?

I don't think that was mentioned anywhere.

  • 06.29.2012 10:10 PM PDT

This one's easy enough. People don't turn to the Halo 3 terminals enough; they're a treasure trove of hints and clues that are being clarified through 343i's new canon.

Here's a message from the man who fired the rings:

[Father], I hope this message finds you well and helps you understand my decision. Today I leave the only world I have ever called home, not for glory or the anomalous desire to end another's life as you have [indicted] but to travel the path of demons to spare the hands of another Father's son. "Had we acted sooner; had we acted more decisively..." Living in the past is a luxury none of us can afford. We must learn from it, but we cannot live there. It is impossible to plan for the [now] - the present is ever fleeting. [The future] is where we must live - [the future] is what we must plan for. I do not look to trade my life in order to preserve our past, but to secure the futureand if not ours, then the future of some [culture] yet to come. Isn't sacrifice in the interest of others what you spoke of as being so noble? Should I have allowed another to bloody his hands while I remained safe behind a [shield of privilege]? You raised me better than that. [Filial Devotion]

At one point in Cryptum, Bornstellar says to the Didact: "I'm willing to sacrifice my life to save my people! Is that not selfless and noble?"

This is reflected in the terminals; 'Isn't sacrifice in the interest of others what you spoke of as being so noble?'

It's far too much of a coincidence that Greg Bear wrote in a line that is nigh-identical to how it's written in the terminals. Now, we're pretty sure Bornstellar doesn't have children; none who would refer to him as 'father,' unless that should change in the third Forerunner novel. Right now, it's a safe assumption that Bornstellar's father was the one who originally told him sacrifice for others is a noble thing, and in Cryptum he's repeating that.

Then in the terminals, Bornstellar has left a shield world (or maybe just a privilege afforded to him) and has gone to fire the rings so he can avoid bloodying the hands of another. Then he sends a letter to his father, one of filial devotion. After that he fires the rings, and dies. The Didact we'll see in Halo 4 is likely the original Didact, who was probably in Requiem at the time of Bornstellar's firing.

[Edited on 06.30.2012 12:18 AM PDT]

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Then in the terminals, Bornstellar has left a shield world (or maybe just a privilege afforded to him) and has gone to fire the rings so he can avoid bloodying the hands of another. Then he sends a letter to his father, one of filial devotion. After that he fires the rings, and dies. The Didact we'll see in Halo 4 is likely the original Didact, who was probably in Requiem at the time of Bornstellar's firing.

I'm willing to agree with this since it feels deliberate to leave his fate unclear.
If they really wanted us to believe--even more so, know--that he was dead, they would probably have spelled it out as clear as possible.

When it comes to his location, I was under the impression that he simply fired them from the Ark, and then went into hiding? I haven't got any solid/direct evidence supporting it though, it's just the my overall knowlage drawing conclusions.


[Edited on 06.30.2012 6:16 AM PDT]

  • 06.30.2012 4:26 AM PDT

I pretty sure bornstellar mentioned in cryptum that when he left his homeworld that was the last time he would ever see his family alive and free, meaning they were probably infected by the flood, so why would he send a message to someone who is infected.

Although I do beleive the didact in halo 4 is the original because executing him would be stupidest thing faber could do to a valuable hostage.

[Edited on 06.30.2012 6:39 AM PDT]

  • 06.30.2012 6:38 AM PDT

I just watched anniversary terminal 8 again spark says if the whole array was tuned and activated by installation 00 that the pulses would overlap and cover every known star system. In the iris server episode one when the didact activates the array the confirmation says array sync 1-7, suggesting he may be at the arc tuning while filial devotion activates installation 04.

[Edited on 07.01.2012 5:16 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2012 5:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
I just watched anniversary terminal 8 again spark says if the whole array was tuned and activated by installation 00 that the pulses would overlap and cover every known star system. In the iris server episode one when the didact activates the array the confirmation says array sync 1-7, suggesting he may be at the arc tuning while filial devotion activates installation 04.


if the Didact were at the Ark in the Citadel, there would be absolutely no need for Filial Devotion to be anywhere near a Halo.

  • 07.01.2012 7:02 AM PDT

maybe they need to activate one the rings before the arc can tune it, that would explain why truth sent tartarus to activate installation 05 while he went to the arc. and if the flood got into the control room and forced them to deactivate the halo then all the rings would go into standby so they could be activated from the arc without having to fire an individual halo.

[Edited on 07.01.2012 7:08 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2012 7:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
maybe they need to activate one the rings before the arc can tune it, that would explain why truth sent tartarus to activate installation 05 while he went to the arc. and if the flood got into the control room and forced them to deactivate the halo then all the rings would go into standby so they could be activated from the arc without having to fire an individual halo.


The Ark doesn't 'tune' the Halos, it fires them all at once, whereas a firing from a single Installation triggers off the others one-by-one.

Truth's motives are unknown. It's possible he was going to the Ark to protect himself from the firing of the Rings, as he declares the Ark as a "shelter from Halo's fire" - coupled with the fact that he knew the purpose of Halo, he surely can't have believed what he told the Covenant.

Plus, the Excession hadn't been properly discovered until Truth landed the Keyship on Earth. It was discovered at the end of ODST when Johnson says that the Covenant are "diggin' a mighty big hole" and in the Legendary Ending we see Truth at the Excession grinning mysteriously - implying he's found his salvation.

  • 07.01.2012 7:45 AM PDT

if he didn't beleive in great journey it probably would have been in mentioned in contact harvest when he is the focus of events.

[Edited on 07.01.2012 1:37 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2012 1:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Isn't it mentioned in Primordium that upon a Halo firing, it's surface is shunted into fractal space to protect the inhabitants?


Yes indeed:

All these survival mechanisms required great amounts of energy in short supply after the sabotage of so many power stations.

Perhaps most impressive was the ability to suspend much of the wheel in time, lock it in statis, turning the installation into a great reflective ring immune to all changes imposed from outside.

But the energy cost of such suspension was immense-perhaps more than the wheel could muster. As well, all around the system, energy that would have been absorbed by thee Halo would have to be deflected through a fractak-dimensioned slipspace, creating a suspicious scatter of heat signatures and even high-energy radiation that could attract the attention of anything hunting us.


That explains why the surface of the Halo's were unaffected by the firing of the array.

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Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
maybe they need to activate one the rings before the arc can tune it, that would explain why truth sent tartarus to activate installation 05 while he went to the arc. and if the flood got into the control room and forced them to deactivate the halo then all the rings would go into standby so they could be activated from the arc without having to fire an individual halo.

That's right, because even though installation 05 had a failed activation, it still put the rings on standby for activation from a remote location. The Ark.

  • 07.01.2012 3:28 PM PDT

failing the activation of a halo putting the rings on standby to be activated from the arc may be a fail-safe in case the flood breaks into the control room and forces you to deactivate the countdown.

  • 07.02.2012 7:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: lime013

Well, he was a Promethean, and Prometheans are nonorganic. If he was organic originally, he could have went through some changes.


Are you saying it might be possible for prometheans to go from organic to nonorganic ,if so can or could they revert back to organic .


No, I was thinking more along the lines of a Promethean Cyborg. Kind of like Darth Vader except 100% nonorganic. Also, maybe he could have placed his mind within a nonorganic Promethean.

  • 07.02.2012 8:08 AM PDT

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