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Subject: who do you think would win mastercheif or noble006

i say it would be a draw because even though mastercheif sounds better and looks better nooble006 was a saviour and is pretty decent

  • 07.03.2012 12:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: chickenlittle
Cheeto is the only one among you that doesn't suck.

You do know that the Chief is a savior as well, correct? And "sounds and looks" have nothing to do with any competition aside from a beauty pageant. So unless the competition is Miss UNSC, your reasons are invalid.

That said, Master Chief would likely win in almost any given scenario, assuming that it is one on one combat.

He is a Spartan II, Noble 6 a Spartan III. Spartan III's were great soldiers, but never received the same level of training and biological modification that the Spartan II's received.

The Chief's reflexes will be faster, he is likely more intelligent, at the very least the same strength as Noble 6,and has decades more experience in all forms of combat.

That, and he's just lucky, while Noble 6 kind of got the short straw.

  • 07.03.2012 1:51 AM PDT
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Chief.

Six was not used to his full potential by UNSC. Hyper lethal? Not really.

  • 07.03.2012 5:59 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

No, please. Not this thread again...

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  • 07.03.2012 6:51 AM PDT

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They were both of the "Hyper-Lethal" Classification. It would be very close.

  • 07.03.2012 6:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cheeto666
You do know that the Chief is a savior as well, correct? And "sounds and looks" have nothing to do with any competition aside from a beauty pageant. So unless the competition is Miss UNSC, your reasons are invalid.

That said, Master Chief would likely win in almost any given scenario, assuming that it is one on one combat.

He is a Spartan II, Noble 6 a Spartan III. Spartan III's were great soldiers, but never received the same level of training and biological modification that the Spartan II's received.

The Chief's reflexes will be faster, he is likely more intelligent, at the very least the same strength as Noble 6,and has decades more experience in all forms of combat.

That, and he's just lucky, while Noble 6 kind of got the short straw.

  • 07.03.2012 8:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


Official fan of Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, (Problem with that?) Halo, and Bungie, also a total gaming junkie.

Halo 4 Master Chief? If so, then Chief. He's got a freakin Rail Gun for an assault rifle.

  • 07.03.2012 9:28 AM PDT

He's right on top of us! I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using...

Ockeghem
Missa Prolationum

lets see...

Noble 6 Status: Dead
Master Chief Status: Not Dead

Winner is...Master Chief!

  • 07.03.2012 9:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
Halo 4 Master Chief? If so, then Chief. He's got a freakin Rail Gun for an assault rifle.
...What's the difference between Halo 4 Master Chief and Halo 1 or 2 or 3 MC? Nothing. They're the same person.

  • 07.03.2012 10:01 AM PDT

n4dumbassremark!

They would never fight because they are both spartans working towards the same goal :rolleyes:

  • 07.03.2012 10:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

We don´t really get to see Noble Six´s full potential.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I still think the Chief would win, but not by much of a margin.

  • 07.03.2012 11:32 AM PDT

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lol "nooble006".

  • 07.03.2012 11:54 AM PDT

Chief.

  • 07.03.2012 11:54 AM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

Master Chief.

  • 07.03.2012 12:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Schlick15
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
Halo 4 Master Chief? If so, then Chief. He's got a freakin Rail Gun for an assault rifle.
...What's the difference between Halo 4 Master Chief and Halo 1 or 2 or 3 MC? Nothing. They're the same person.


In Halo 4, John has upgraded Mark VI armour and a host of new, more advanced weapons than what were present in Halo CE/2/3. That's what he's getting at.

  • 07.03.2012 12:25 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

We strip the two of their armor and I really think it could go anyway.

  • 07.03.2012 12:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
We strip the two of their armor and I really think it could go anyway.


I disagree. Spartan-II augmentations > S-III augmentations, also Noble Six like... 20 years of age by 2552 while John is twice that and has significantly more combat experience. From the sounds of it, Six was used mostly against militia groups rather than Covenant whereas John has been used against both and probably got into a lot more hand-to-hand situations with Sangheili.

I stand by it - John > Six.

  • 07.03.2012 12:45 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
We strip the two of their armor and I really think it could go anyway.


I disagree. Spartan-II augmentations > S-III augmentations, also Noble Six like... 20 years of age by 2552 while John is twice that and has significantly more combat experience. From the sounds of it, Six was used mostly against militia groups rather than Covenant whereas John has been used against both and probably got into a lot more hand-to-hand situations with Sangheili.

I stand by it - John > Six.


I have my doubts on that. No doubt he was used on rebels, but I wouldn't have his Covenant experience is that lacking. After all, S-IIIs were made primarily for the Covenant.

And are the augmentations really that much different in quality? John's got the thyroid implant, but I can't imagine that gives him a huge edge.

So I'll stand by the idea that it could go either way.

  • 07.03.2012 1:02 PM PDT


Posted by: Cheeto666
He is a Spartan II, Noble 6 a Spartan III. Spartan III's were great soldiers, but never received the same level of training and biological modification that the Spartan II's received.

The Chief's reflexes will be faster, he is likely more intelligent, at the very least the same strength as Noble 6,and has decades more experience in all forms of combat.

That, and he's just lucky, while Noble 6 kind of got the short straw.


Spartan III training is actually labeled as "Better" then S2 training. Point A, null.
Spartan III and Spartan II share EVERY SINGLE AUGMENATION, bar the thyroid implant. Even then, according to what I've read, thyroid implant was required for the S2 augmentations to fully affect the body. s3 augmentations were improved to the point of not needing it.

Reflexes might be faster. Never seen evidence S2 reflexes were always better then S3. More intelligent... he might have some more academic knowledge then Six, but I'll just point out how the 'not as schooled' soldiers can be smarter in a battlefield then the officers who spend years in school. Strength, is literally the same. Chief might have a TINY edge due to Thyroid implant, but they are basically equal in that area.

Decades more experience... working in a team. Seriously, look at the missions we hear Chief doing. Every. Single. One. is a team mission. So, His realm of experience as a solo fighter is his 'lowest stat'. Even then, as I've heard it... at a certain point your skill just levels out. You can train for 20 years... and still be just as good as somebody who trained for six. Course, your point assumes he's spent decades in combat alone. I find that unlikely. You dismiss time spent in slipspace or cryo-sleep. He served for around 27 years from being 14 on the carrier and fighting the ODSTs. How much was in battle? How much in travel time?

Luck is no measure of winning a battle. You cannot account 'luck' as a factor. Course, I can also twist that to use the old saying that "Lady Luck favors the weak and foolish" I think it was?

Either way, Six didn't have to rely on luck. He relied on his own skill and experience to win his battles. He didn't have to get lucky to win. He died because HE chose to stay behind and protect the PoA as it launched. Luck wasn't involved. He knew he was going to die on the battlefield and fought till the end.



Edit: Augmentations got dealt with. S2's have thyroid implant. Otherwise everything is the exact same results. Nothing's proven the S2's are stronger, faster, or have better reflexes cause their augmentations were surgery instead of injections.

Six clearly has experience against the Covenant. He knew exactly how strong a Zealot shield strength was. You don't encounter those in just any battle. Even then, I'd say the fact he's described as taking out entire bases by himself says he is capable of handling what's thrown at him.

That and you know, they were capable of taking out large forces of Covenant including hand to hand combat...

[Edited on 07.03.2012 2:23 PM PDT]

  • 07.03.2012 2:15 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Please, not this again. This topic has been beaten to death more than Halo vs Star Wars.

  • 07.03.2012 2:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999
Please, not this again. This topic has been beaten to death more than Halo vs Star Wars.


That was a fun one too.

"The Covenant ships easily gut the empires."
'Why?'
"CAUSE"

  • 07.03.2012 2:25 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Xd00999
Please, not this again. This topic has been beaten to death more than Halo vs Star Wars.


That was a fun one too.

"The Covenant ships easily gut the empires."
'Why?'
"CAUSE"

"Covenant ROFLSTOMP in Halo, therefore they ROFLSTOMP Star Wars"
"Logic!"

  • 07.03.2012 2:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Xd00999
Please, not this again. This topic has been beaten to death more than Halo vs Star Wars.


That was a fun one too.

"The Covenant ships easily gut the empires."
'Why?'
"CAUSE"

"Covenant ROFLSTOMP in Halo, therefore they ROFLSTOMP Star Wars"
"Logic!"


"Master Chief killed elites and brutes. Therefore he can totally and easily take out force users wielding lightsabers!"

lol.

  • 07.03.2012 2:36 PM PDT

I run Skirmish!!!

here we go again. Did noble 6 save earth? Did he destroy the installation 04 and stop installation 05 from firing? No. and No. He died on reach, that was it. I could go on but i am tired of these comparison threads.

  • 07.03.2012 4:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: HipiO7
We don´t really get to see Noble Six´s full potential.
I can already see it. Damn.

-taking out high priority individuals
-taking high priority individuals prisoner
-actual hostage/civilian rescue missions (not one where killing a civilian by accident automatically punishes the player. I've heard of instances where a soldier accidentally shot a civilian because he stood up. In the dark. Does that mean he deserves to be punished? It was a -blam!- accident!)
-working with more UNSC people (it's sad that only Noble Team can follow you so far while everyone else is left to be glassed by Covie cruisers)
-stronger human presence (seriously, 90% of the time, it's dead militia people everywhere. With no weapons lying around them. I doubt Covies would be smart enough to move weapons away from them. In a real war, I'm pretty sure such weapons would be confiscated...)

Noble Team hogged so much of the action. I thought it was supposed to be about Reach...

[Edited on 07.03.2012 4:13 PM PDT]

  • 07.03.2012 4:10 PM PDT

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