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Posted by: im the next halo
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: Cheeto666
He is a Spartan II, Noble 6 a Spartan III. Spartan III's were great soldiers, but never received the same level of training and biological modification that the Spartan II's received.
The Chief's reflexes will be faster, he is likely more intelligent, at the very least the same strength as Noble 6,and has decades more experience in all forms of combat.
That, and he's just lucky, while Noble 6 kind of got the short straw.
Spartan III training is actually labeled as "Better" then S2 training. Point A, null.
Spartan III and Spartan II share EVERY SINGLE AUGMENATION, bar the thyroid implant. Even then, according to what I've read, thyroid implant was required for the S2 augmentations to fully affect the body. s3 augmentations were improved to the point of not needing it.
Reflexes might be faster. Never seen evidence S2 reflexes were always better then S3. More intelligent... he might have some more academic knowledge then Six, but I'll just point out how the 'not as schooled' soldiers can be smarter in a battlefield then the officers who spend years in school. Strength, is literally the same. Chief might have a TINY edge due to Thyroid implant, but they are basically equal in that area.
Decades more experience... working in a team. Seriously, look at the missions we hear Chief doing. Every. Single. One. is a team mission. So, His realm of experience as a solo fighter is his 'lowest stat'. Even then, as I've heard it... at a certain point your skill just levels out. You can train for 20 years... and still be just as good as somebody who trained for six. Course, your point assumes he's spent decades in combat alone. I find that unlikely. You dismiss time spent in slipspace or cryo-sleep. He served for around 27 years from being 14 on the carrier and fighting the ODSTs. How much was in battle? How much in travel time?
Luck is no measure of winning a battle. You cannot account 'luck' as a factor. Course, I can also twist that to use the old saying that "Lady Luck favors the weak and foolish" I think it was?
Either way, Six didn't have to rely on luck. He relied on his own skill and experience to win his battles. He didn't have to get lucky to win. He died because HE chose to stay behind and protect the PoA as it launched. Luck wasn't involved. He knew he was going to die on the battlefield and fought till the end.
Edit: Augmentations got dealt with. S2's have thyroid implant. Otherwise everything is the exact same results. Nothing's proven the S2's are stronger, faster, or have better reflexes cause their augmentations were surgery instead of injections.
Six clearly has experience against the Covenant. He knew exactly how strong a Zealot shield strength was. You don't encounter those in just any battle. Even then, I'd say the fact he's described as taking out entire bases by himself says he is capable of handling what's thrown at him.
That and you know, they were capable of taking out large forces of Covenant including hand to hand combat...You're wrong on most points.
First of all. II's were spent on the most. III's were made for shere numbers, primarily. The hope that most would live on to train or create new groups of SPARTANs. III's, majority of them are dead. II's, of which are still alive, half of them. Are still fighting anyway. It was stated the augmentations progress from more use. It's self explanatory. Like how I get better when I practice soccer, lacrosse or any other activity. Most notably MC has been battling for a while. His age altered by Cyro-sleep, but is still in the wide range of experience. His prowess lengthened. This is on one SPARTAN, but MC has an advanced AI. Which gives him even more heightened reflexes. MC is not a low on single handily defeating groups of enemies, or objectives, but it doesn't mean he sucks because he is not a "lone wolf". Team work matters, always.
Chief has been accounted on situations N6 has when he stayed to clear the way for the PoA. He just got lucky to survive, along with his intellect. He has been a Prisoner of War many times, but it didn't count for the medal. You literally fail to realise the true facts of things. Any Spartan can tell, or any soldier can tell shield strength of an Elite. It can be common sense due to their ranks. You think a General Elite will have a minor shield strength? That's cheap, no. I just observed and stated a true fact.
Spartan III training was better to make up the demand for more Spartans, also augmentations were superior.
"It would be an honor to serve under Chief Mendez," Kurt replied. One of Ackerson's brows quirked up. "Indeed." He motioned at Kurt's secure tablet. "Read. New training protocols have been outlined as well as an improved augmentation regime. We've learned much from the unfortunate medical processes Dr Halsey had at her disposal."
Kurt balled his hands into fists, remembering the pain of the bone grafts like glass breaking inside his marrow, and the fire that had burned along every nerve as they had been reengi-neered for enhanced speed. As he read he started to grasp the opportunities and challenges of this new program. The new bioaugmentations were a quantum leap ahead of those he had received. There were lower projected wash-out rates. There was, however, only a fraction of the original SPARTAN program training time and budget. MJOLNIR armor was to be replaced with something called Semi-Powered Infiltration (SPI) armor systems.
"With these new candidates," Kurt said, "you're trying to do more with less." Ackerson nodded. "They'll be sent on missions with higher strategic values but correspondingly lower survival probabilities. That's where you come in, Kurt.
We need your training as a Spartan, and all your field experience passed along to these candidates. You need to make these Spartans better and train them faster. This program may be the key to our survival in this war."
While Kurt didn't understand all the ramifications, he now understood the importance of the end result. His initial feeling of unease, however, remained. How many of these new Spartans were going to die? He steeled himself. He'd do everything he could to see they had the best training, the best equipment, be the best soldiers humanity had ever produced. Even then, though, would it be enough?
Kurt watched the incoming Pelicans. The blocky jet-powered craft were so distant they were only specks against the setting sun. He hit the magnification on his faceplate and saw lines of fire tracing their reentry vectors. They would touch down in three minutes. In the last six months ]he had developed a training regime tougher than the original SPARTAN program. He had created obstacle courses, firing ranges, classrooms, mess halls, and dormitories from what had been jungle and scrub plain.
He had received every piece of equipment he had requested from NavSpecWep Section Three. Guns, ammunition, dropships, tanks even samples of Covenant technology and weaponry had appeared as if by sleight of hand.