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Subject: Calling all decipherists!

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Posted by: Uriel S167
Posted by: Professor24
As the majority of us know, at the end of Bungies letter they gave us seven cryptic characters composed of diamonds. I personally think it could be a date, still working on it though.

What do you guys think?

~Quinton~


They're very similar to the Norse Runes in the Elder Futhark!!!

From left to right:

1) I Isa = Letter I
2) X Gebo = letter G
3) Othila = Letter O
4) Can't make it out
5) Mannaz Letter = M
6) Uruz Letter = U
7) Kano Letter = K

I don't know what these means, but I'm Wiccan (a Witch), and these symbols very much resemble the Runes used by old Norse culture both as a form of communication as well as a form of Magick.

See what you guys think. ;)

Great theory, I wish I could still read runes. Bungie's been known to reference Norse mythology, so this definitely has some merit.

  • 07.07.2012 8:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Uriel S167
They're very similar to the Norse Runes in the Elder Futhark!!!

From left to right:

1) I Isa = Letter I
2) X Gebo = letter G
3) Othila = Letter O
4) Can't make it out
5) Mannaz Letter = M
6) Uruz Letter = U
7) Kano Letter = K

I don't know what these means, but I'm Wiccan (a Witch), and these symbols very much resemble the Runes used by old Norse culture both as a form of communication as well as a form of Magick.

See what you guys think. ;)
I think you are on to something. I tried binary with little success. Maybe if we find the 4th letter well put something together.

  • 07.07.2012 8:15 AM PDT

Jazzer008

Yea, disregard everything I said before about the date. But it could still be a date.

An hour, a month, a day, a year.

x/xx/xx/xx

Or month, day, year

xx/xx/xxxx

But using this last method, screws things up a little. For instance using the years 2012 or 2013 would not allow you to use a double digit date.

So maybe it is a word. Seven letter words?

Probably DESTINY :D

[Edited on 07.07.2012 8:20 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 8:17 AM PDT

The Song Of Nephilim

Xenoblade <3

I figured it out last night.

  • 07.07.2012 8:19 AM PDT
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I feel this is impossible to decipher without the key, I forgot the technical term but there are probably letters that correspond to each symbol that other people got from Bungie day last year.

  • 07.07.2012 8:19 AM PDT

Key


Posted by: Switchfoot4
Posted by: Uriel S167
They're very similar to the Norse Runes in the Elder Futhark!!!

From left to right:

1) I Isa = Letter I
2) X Gebo = letter G
3) Othila = Letter O
4) Can't make it out
5) Mannaz Letter = M
6) Uruz Letter = U
7) Kano Letter = K

I don't know what these means, but I'm Wiccan (a Witch), and these symbols very much resemble the Runes used by old Norse culture both as a form of communication as well as a form of Magick.

See what you guys think. ;)
I think you are on to something. I tried binary with little success. Maybe if we find the 4th letter well put something together.
Just from looking at this, it looks like the fourth one could be an upside-down Algiz, but other than that I'm at a loss as well.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 8:28 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 8:24 AM PDT

Jazzer008



They're very similar to the Norse Runes in the Elder Futhark!!!

See what you guys think. ;)


This is great!! But I think the second symbol is 'P'

[Edited on 07.07.2012 8:33 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 8:25 AM PDT

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| |[... ..]| |
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| . \__/. |
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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: Switchfoot4
Posted by: Uriel S167
They're very similar to the Norse Runes in the Elder Futhark!!!

From left to right:

1) I Isa = Letter I
2) X Gebo = letter G
3) Othila = Letter O
4) Can't make it out
5) Mannaz Letter = M
6) Uruz Letter = U
7) Kano Letter = K

I don't know what these means, but I'm Wiccan (a Witch), and these symbols very much resemble the Runes used by old Norse culture both as a form of communication as well as a form of Magick.

See what you guys think. ;)
I think you are on to something. I tried binary with little success. Maybe if we find the 4th letter well put something together.
Just from looking at this, it looks like the fourth one could be an upside-down [url=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5 8/Algiz.svg/256px-Algiz.svg.png]Algiz[/url], but other than that I'm at a loss as well.

I have nothing. The only time runes are ever used upside down is to show that the opposite meaning of that rune is intended.

Inverting the light and dark diamonds did nothing. I think we do need a key like Blaster said.

  • 07.07.2012 8:28 AM PDT

The characters are geomancy runes, not the other set of runes you were talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomancy

I've yet to investigate beyond that, but yeah. They correspond to something to do with geomancy, not norse runes.

  • 07.07.2012 8:32 AM PDT

I haven't checked this out yet but I remember Deej posting a Mail Sack Challenge, that a Bungie Employee came up with, that had to do with deciphering a code. Any chance they connected?

[Edited on 07.07.2012 8:36 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 8:34 AM PDT

Jazzer008


Posted by: Threesided
The characters are geomancy runes, not the other set of runes you were talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomancy

I've yet to investigate beyond that, but yeah. They correspond to something to do with geomancy, not norse runes.




OH SNAP!

Quick! Sell all Norse Rune stocks!! Move to Geomancy! BUY NOW!!!

  • 07.07.2012 8:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: mark117 mia2553
I haven't checked this out yet but I think Deej posted a challenge, that a Bungie Employee came up with, that had to do with deciphering a code. Any chance they connected?


It is possible. Someone should get in contact with CTN and ask him about it. He won that one.

In the "one of seven needed to continue..." thread proposed that the seven cards(that's what I'm calling them) could point to the winners of the tickets?

~Quinton~

  • 07.07.2012 8:37 AM PDT

Each symbol stands for something in geomancy.

They read out in order:

VIA , CONJUNCTIO, AMISSIO, FORTUNA MINOR, RUBEUS, LAETITIA, CARCER.



Again, just posting what I've just figured out, but I can't for the life of me understand the significance yet.

  • 07.07.2012 8:38 AM PDT

Not to spam, but more credibility to the binary theory:

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomantic_figures)


Addition of figures
The structure of the figures themselves can be directly translated into binary numbers, such as those used by modern computers, with passive lines representing the numeral 0 (or logic low) and active lines representing the numeral 1 (or logic high). This structure is exploited in computation of more figures by means of the XOR function used widely in computer science and electrical systems; when two figures are "added" to form a new figure (where points in the lines of the same elements are summed, divided by two, and the remainder taken), the logical operation obtains the new figure by determining which lines are different. The lines that have different numbers of points results in a line with one point (logic high), and lines with the same number of points results in a line with two points (logic low). The result of adding two figures is usually interpreted to mean the interaction between the two parties (the parent figures) or the present situation (when one parent represents the past and the other parent represents the future).

Inversion of figures
In the same fashion how Boolean values or binary numbers can be inverted, geomantic figures can likewise be inverted. By inversion, figures whose lines are active become passive and vice versa. In this manner, Puer becomes Albus, Populus becomes Via, and so forth. Inversion represents a polarity of action, e.g. the rashness of Puer balanced by the calmness of Albus.

Reversion of figures
Reversion, or rotation, of figures is the process that replaces the fire line of a figure with the earth line, the air line with the water line, and vice versa. By reversion, Puer and Puella are reverted pairs, as are Rubeus and Albus. Not all figures have a unique reversion: the figures that are neither entering nor exiting revert into themselves, and the other figures with even points revert into their inverted figure. Reversion often represents an axial polarity, such as the male and female axis between Puer and Puella.

  • 07.07.2012 8:41 AM PDT

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| \------/ | ODST For Life
| . \__/. |
-\____/

Damn, didn't even know those existed. Whats your theory on what it means?

  • 07.07.2012 8:41 AM PDT

READ IT.

I won the Star. With this on Week 18.


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: Switchfoot4
Posted by: Uriel S167
They're very similar to the Norse Runes in the Elder Futhark!!!

From left to right:

1) I Isa = Letter I
2) X Gebo = letter G
3) Othila = Letter O
4) Can't make it out
5) Mannaz Letter = M
6) Uruz Letter = U
7) Kano Letter = K

I don't know what these means, but I'm Wiccan (a Witch), and these symbols very much resemble the Runes used by old Norse culture both as a form of communication as well as a form of Magick.

See what you guys think. ;)
I think you are on to something. I tried binary with little success. Maybe if we find the 4th letter well put something together.
Just from looking at this, it looks like the fourth one could be an upside-down Algiz, but other than that I'm at a loss as well.

Yeah... titled... slanted, squared... That is the people, some look similar.

It should also be known that those same Runes are numbers...

[Edited on 07.07.2012 8:42 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 8:41 AM PDT

Key

In order, the runes are:

Via | Conjunctio | Amissio | Cauda Draconis | Rubeus | Laetitia | Carcer

  • 07.07.2012 8:45 AM PDT

Destiny seems to have a lot to do with space.

Maybe this will help?

Edit: According to my picture, they are the nocturnal figures of the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

Via: Moon
Conjunctio: Mercury
Amissio: Venus
Fortuna Minor: Sun
Rubeus: Mars
Laetitia: Jupiter
Carcer: Saturn

It's a perfect match.


[Edited on 07.07.2012 8:50 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 8:45 AM PDT

I'm a stubborn guy. I love to argue my opinion, but unlike others, I'll try to see your side of the problem. I'm a triathlete, with a very heavy empephis on the swimming bit. Also, don't hate on the ~Quinton~ at the end of my posts. Why are you still reading this? #creeper #hashtagcashmoney for hashtaging on Bungie.net


Posted by: TheOne008

Posted by: Threesided
The characters are geomancy runes, not the other set of runes you were talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomancy

I've yet to investigate beyond that, but yeah. They correspond to something to do with geomancy, not norse runes.




OH SNAP!

Quick! Sell all Norse Rune stocks!! Move to Geomancy! BUY NOW!!!


This makes tons of sense. While reading on Wikipedia it said something about astronomy. Per Audacia Ad Astra has something to do with the stars. Also the destiny symbol kind of looks like geomancy.

~Quinton~

  • 07.07.2012 8:48 AM PDT

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I got OSH by doing a binary conversion. I'm not sure if it means anything.

ö§H this to be exact.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 8:49 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 8:48 AM PDT


Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Destiny seems to have a lot to do with space.

Maybe this will help?

Edit: According to my picture, they are the nocturnal figures of the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

Sounds about right to me

  • 07.07.2012 8:48 AM PDT

READ IT.

I won the Star. With this on Week 18.


Posted by: Threesided
Not to spam, but more credibility to the binary theory:

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomantic_figures)

Wow...

So it says...

the Way, the Conjunction, Loss, the Lesser Fortune, Red, Joy, the Prison...


Oh...

  • 07.07.2012 8:49 AM PDT


Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Destiny seems to have a lot to do with space.

Maybe this will help?

Edit: According to my picture, they are the nocturnal figures of the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

Via: Moon
Conjunctio: Mercury
Amissio: Venus
Fortuna Minor: Sun
Rubeus: Mars
Laetitia: Jupiter
Carcer: Saturn

It's a perfect match.

So what have we learned from this?

Destiny is about the sky or space...

So nothing new.

  • 07.07.2012 8:51 AM PDT


Posted by: Alex the Awesome

Posted by: Threesided
Not to spam, but more credibility to the binary theory:

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomantic_figures)

Wow...

So it says...

the Way, the Conjunction, Loss, the Lesser Fortune, Red, Joy, the Prison...


Oh...
Via: Moon is the way.
Conjunctio: Mercury is the conjunction.
Amissio: Venus is the loss.
Fortuna Minor: Sun is the lesser fortune.
Rubeus: Mars is the Red.
Laetitia: Jupiter is the Joy.
Carcer: Saturn is the prison.

  • 07.07.2012 8:51 AM PDT

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Damn, this is some Universe Fourm level theory working here.

  • 07.07.2012 8:53 AM PDT