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Jazzer008

I think its something more than just the Astronomical bodies attached to the symbols or the latin translations.

I really want to see a date come out of all this?! But I fear it will just end in something ambiguous and meaningless.

  • 07.07.2012 8:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: Threesided
Each symbol stands for something in geomancy.

They read out in order:

VIA , CONJUNCTIO, AMISSIO, FORTUNA MINOR, RUBEUS, LAETITIA, CARCER



Again, just posting what I've just figured out, but I can't for the life of me understand the significance yet.

Translating that (thanks google) doesn't do a whole lot.

The Way
Relationship
Loss
Less chance
Red
Joy
Jail

Translated as a sentence: LOSING THE WAY TIE STATE PRISON PROJECT RED DELIGHT

  • 07.07.2012 8:54 AM PDT

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1111011010101110010010001001

That's the binary translation in the order. Leads to gibberish.

  • 07.07.2012 8:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Alex the Awesome

Posted by: Threesided
Not to spam, but more credibility to the binary theory:

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomantic_figures)

Wow...

So it says...

the Way, the Conjunction, Loss, the Lesser Fortune, Red, Joy, the Prison...


Oh...
Via: Moon is the way.
Conjunctio: Mercury is the conjunction.
Amissio: Venus is the loss.
Fortuna Minor: Sun is the lesser fortune.
Rubeus: Mars is the Red.
Laetitia: Jupiter is the Joy.
Carcer: Saturn is the prison.

Relevant.

  • 07.07.2012 9:02 AM PDT


Posted by: Alex the Awesome

Posted by: Threesided
Not to spam, but more credibility to the binary theory:

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomantic_figures)

Wow...

So it says...

the Way, the Conjunction, Loss, the Lesser Fortune, Red, Joy, the Prison...


Oh...


Or maybe "The path to reconciliation is lost. Evil Triumphs. Happiness is delayed." ???

[Edited on 07.07.2012 9:03 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 9:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: freefall722

Posted by: Alex the Awesome

Posted by: Threesided
Not to spam, but more credibility to the binary theory:

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomantic_figures)

Wow...

So it says...

the Way, the Conjunction, Loss, the Lesser Fortune, Red, Joy, the Prison...


Oh...


Or maybe "The path to reconciliation is lost. Evil Triumphs. Happiness is delayed." ???

Uh... mine was what was on the wiki when I scrolled down a bit. I just put together what was already there.

  • 07.07.2012 9:05 AM PDT

Posted by: Alex the Awesome
Posted by: freefall722
Posted by: Alex the Awesome
Posted by: Threesided



Uh... mine was what was on the wiki when I scrolled down a bit. I just put together what was already there.


Yeah I translated your translation - using the descriptions in that section.

The path(Way) to reconciliation(Conjunction) is lost(Loss). Evil(Red) Triumphs(Lesser Fortune). Happiness(Joy) is delayed(Prison).

[Edited on 07.07.2012 9:15 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 9:13 AM PDT

Thought this may be useful in this thread as well:
Via: Latin for "the Way". The figure resembles a road or path. It is considered bad of most things, but good with concerns of roads, travels, or journeys. Astrologically it is associated with Cancer and the waning Moon, and both its inner and outer elements are water. All the elements in Via are active, and as such the figure indicates change more than any other figure. Regarding the outcome of the situation being divined, it is neutral, unless change by itself infers a positive or negative result. This figure inverts any figure when added, giving it another meaning of change. Its planetary ruler is Chashmodai, its Intelligence is the Intelligence of Intelligences Malkah beTarshishim ve-ad Ruachoth Shechalim, and its Spirit is the Spirit of Spirits is Shad Barshemoth ha-Shartathan. It is associated with the deities Diana and Mercurius, and the angels Gabriel and Muriel. It is associated with the stomach.

Fortuna Minor: Latin for "the Lesser Fortune". The figure is symbolic of success coming down like beams of light from the Sun. Astrologically it is associated with Leo and the Sun in southern declinations; both its inner and outer elemental rulers are fire. It indicates a weakly positive outcome in nearly all questions, representing transient success that is dependent upon outside help. It favors situations that can be resolved quickly and do not need to be sustained. It is a figure of change and instability. Its planetary intelligence is Nakhiel and its spirit is Sorath; it is associated with the deities Apollo and Jupiter, and the angels Michael and Verchiel. It is associated with the spine.

Amissio: Latin for "Loss". The figure is of two bowls or cups turned upside-down. Astrologically, it is associated with Taurus and Venus retrograde. Its inner element is fire but ruled outwardly by earth. In general, the figure is bad or negative figure for all charts except those for love (being a figure of Venus) or where loss is desired and denotes loss. Often it represents something outside of one's grasp. Its planetary intelligence is Hagiel and its spirit is Kedemel; it is associated with the goddess Venus, and the angels Anael and Asmodel. It is associated with the neck and throat.

Carcer: Latin for "the Prison". The figure is the outline of an enclosure, a link in a chain, or prison cell. It is usually bad in situations and denotes delays, setbacks, or bindings. Astrologically it is associated with Capricorn and Saturn retrograde; its inner and outer element is earth. It refers to immobility, and also thereby strength. Depending on the question it could indicate a restriction or a source of willpower. It is generally unfavourable, but can be favourable in questions involving stability or security. Its planetary intelligence is Agiel and its spirit is Zazel; it is associated with the deities Saeturnus and Vesta, and the angels Cassiel and Hanael. It is associated with the knees and skeletal system of the body.

Laetitia: Latin for "Joy". The figure resembles an arch, fountain, or rainbow. It is good in situations that concern potential, joy, or happiness. Astrologically it is associated with Pisces and Jupiter retrograde. It is ruled externally by water, but inwardly by fire. It is a positive figure for nearly all questions, representing fast situations and construction. It indicates upward motion, happiness, or joy. Its planetary intelligence is Iophiel and its spirit is Hismael; it is associated with the deities Jove and Neptunus, and the angels Sachiel and Barchiel. It is associated with the feet.

Conjunctio: Latin for "the Conjunction". The figure resembles a crossroads or joining of two figures. The sign is neutral in meaning (good in good things, evil in evil), but good with joining or recovering things, especially marriage or relationships. Astrologically it is associated with Virgo and Mercury retrograde. It represents a combination of forces, for good or ill. By itself, it is neutral, only becoming favourable or not by other figures around it. Its outer element is earth, while its inner element is air. Its planetary intelligence is Tiriel and its spirit is Taphthartharath; it is associated with the deities Mercurius and Ceres, and the angels Raphael and Hamaliel. It is associated with the intestines and digestive system.

Rubeus: Latin for "Red". The figure is an overturned glass; an inversion, meaning good in all that is evil, and evil in all that is good. Like the Tail of the Dragon, the figure is considered so unfavourable that if it were the first in a reading, the reading would end. Astrologically it is associated with Scorpio and Mars retrograde; its inner element is ruled by air, and its outer element ruled by water. It represents passion, deception, violence, and vice. Its planetary intelligence is Graphiel and its spirit is Bartzabel; it is associated with the god Mavors, and the angels Samael and Barbiel. It is associated with the reproductive and excretory systems along with the genitals.


[Edited on 07.07.2012 9:14 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 9:14 AM PDT

Key


Posted by: freefall722
Posted by: Alex the Awesome
Posted by: freefall722
Posted by: Alex the Awesome
Posted by: Threesided



Uh... mine was what was on the wiki when I scrolled down a bit. I just put together what was already there.


Yeah I translated your translation - using the descriptions in that section.

The path(Way) to reconciliation(Conjunction) is lost(Loss). Evil(Red) Triumphs(Lesser Fortune). Happiness(Joy) is delayed(Prison).
Cleaned up a little:

The path to reconciliation is lost. The evil triumph over happiness is delayed.

  • 07.07.2012 9:16 AM PDT


Posted by: Switchfoot4
1111011010101110010010001001

That's the binary translation in the order. Leads to gibberish.


In hex in case it helps anyone think clearer: F6AE489

  • 07.07.2012 9:17 AM PDT
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0000100101010011101101110110

Or

0100100
0010011
0001111
0111110

is as far as I got, before I decided that I'll leave it to the experts.

  • 07.07.2012 9:18 AM PDT

"The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit,
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it."
-Omar Khayyám-


Posted by: Professor24
As the majority of us know, at the end of Bungies letter they gave us seven cryptic characters composed of diamonds. I personally think it could be a date, still working on it though.

What do you guys think?

~Quinton~


I wish I could say but I can't. We'll talk later in 2013 ;)

  • 07.07.2012 9:20 AM PDT

I'm a stubborn guy. I love to argue my opinion, but unlike others, I'll try to see your side of the problem. I'm a triathlete, with a very heavy empephis on the swimming bit. Also, don't hate on the ~Quinton~ at the end of my posts. Why are you still reading this? #creeper #hashtagcashmoney for hashtaging on Bungie.net


Posted by: Tookurdignity

Posted by: Professor24
As the majority of us know, at the end of Bungies letter they gave us seven cryptic characters composed of diamonds. I personally think it could be a date, still working on it though.

What do you guys think?



I wish I could say but I can't. We'll talk later in 2013 ;)


You smell like fish. Not sure if I should like you or what....^_^

~Quinton~

  • 07.07.2012 9:33 AM PDT

Posted by: Gaara444
>Slut
I will cut the ever loving F*** out of both of you. I will kill you. You little s***s, you worthless miss placed come shots. How DARE you. I will cut you into little pieces, and hide you under the floor board.
I hope both of you rot. Hitler is now crying right now, knowing he is no longer the worlds biggest Dick, cause both of you share that title.Please, do me the favor of not having to dirty my hands and kill yourselves.

>Diamonds
>Africa

Wasn't Halo 3 somewhere in Africa?

  • 07.07.2012 9:34 AM PDT

The sound of iron shocks is stuck in my head, The thunder of the drums dictates
The rhythm of the falls, the number of dead's the rising of the horns, ahead
From the dawn of time to the end of days I will have to run, away
I want to feel the pain and the bitter taste of the blood on my lips, again

Posted by: SharkTooth__
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=73310335

That's hilarious

  • 07.07.2012 9:35 AM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=73317047&v iewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=4

we been doing this a while now im lazy you looky now

  • 07.07.2012 9:36 AM PDT

Great minds discuss ideas

Average minds discuss events

Small minds discuss people

Well, putting it that way makes actual ASC-II codes (I really have no clue, thats what the Internet tells me). I'll run them through a chart and see what turns up.
Posted by: Izak609
0000100101010011101101110110

Or

0100100
0010011
0001111
0111110

is as far as I got, before I decided that I'll leave it to the experts.
Well, it's nothing. Too bad.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 9:41 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 9:38 AM PDT

Well Latin is popular with Bungie, along with the number 7 and all of that nice stuff. The point is, Latin is where this should have started in the first place.

  • 07.07.2012 9:41 AM PDT

"The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit,
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it."
-Omar Khayyám-

Good I just had my morning Soffish and didn't know if its' cantankerous stench was still on my person or not.

  • 07.07.2012 9:42 AM PDT

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OK, so someone messed up somewhere, which messed up my binary. Let me right this out, in order, properly in binary format.

Via - Conjunctio - Amissio - Fortuna Minor - Rubeus - Laetitia - Carcer

1111 - 0110 - 0101 - 0011 - 0010 - 0001 - 1001

Moon - Mercury - Venus - Sun - Mars - Jupiter - Saturn

Inverse would be.

Populus - Carcer - Acquisitio - Fortuna Major - Puella - Caput Draconis - Conjunctio

0000 - 1001 - 1010 - 1100 - 1101 - 1110 - 0110

This is the correct binary.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 10:31 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 9:43 AM PDT

Correct. But where does that put us?

  • 07.07.2012 9:44 AM PDT

The name's Ian, Game Designer at Whisper Game Studios, very off-and-on Bungie.net visitor and avid Bungie fan overall. Message me if you wish.

I'm trying to work on it but I've got a couple other things going on simultaneously. Will report back with any findings.

  • 07.07.2012 9:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: CoffeeTunic
Well, putting it that way makes actual ASC-II codes (I really have no clue, thats what the Internet tells me). I'll run them through a chart and see what turns up.

Well, it's nothing. Too bad.

Yeah, it's missing four digits. There would have to be an even number of "particle" symbols.

  • 07.07.2012 9:45 AM PDT

Cop lights, flash lights
Spot lights, strobe lights
Street lights
Fast life, drug life
Thug life, rock life
Every night

I took a different approach. Here's what I got. I replied to this guy on the "One Step closer" thread.


Posted by: Unanimate Objec
So, translated literally, it's "The Way, The Conjunction, Lost, The Lesser Fortune, Red, Joy, The Prison."


By comparing the symbols on Bnet to these translations, ^I get this.



The Way - The first level where you learn the basics and get started in your path into the story.

The Conjunction- A Crossroads area where you choose a side and stick with it throughout the entire campaign.

Lost- Seeing how you've taken a side you feel lost on what to do and who to really trust, OR it just means you're freakin' lost and must survive.

The Lesser Fortune- The protagonist plays through the level and understands what the conflict has done to both sides, seeing the lesser fortunes of what war can bring.

Red- Alot of fighting in this level. Many side characters will die and you'll understand that the conflict is not all what it's cut out to be.

Joy- You've completed your mission throughout the campaign and have reached peace. That is until the side you're on apprehends you and you're betrayed by that you thought were your allies.

The Prison- Either figuratively you're stuck in a prison of mind and the game ends with you hopelessly being lost forever (insanity) or you're in a Prison and you break out to reach freedom.



Yeah...thats what I got from that.

  • 07.07.2012 9:45 AM PDT