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Subject: Bungie riddle not solvable/ proof

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

TL;DR

basically no matter what if the sequence is missing a first mother or a 4th daughter it doesn't matter because the line cannot solve in its present order.


The truth is bungies riddle is in fact un solvable.
It is not a solvable Geomancy equation regardless of the aditoion of an 8th symbol

http://www.serenapowers.com/img/geotriplicities.jpg

First i assumed bungies sequence of 7 was missing a 4th daughter.

This is obviously wrong. For this to be true the 5th sign from the right would have to be


Puer 1,1,2,1
when it is infact Fortuna Minor 1122

a daughter is found by taking the top line of the 4 mothers from right to left.

I then attempted to find a far right sign assuming bungies sequence was missing the first mother.

this is also impossible

in this case the first daughter Fortuna Minor 1122

would be incorrect

it would have to be (x),1,1,2
when in fact the top line of the mothers is 1,1,2,2
the 3rd mother is in conflict

Both ends of bungies riddle presents unsolvable
I have provided some pics for illistration
http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/shadow2648/missingda ughter.png
http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a462/shadow2648/missingmo ther.png




[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:15 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 3:57 PM PDT

Didn't DeeJ say that finding out the symbol's origins were enough for now and that we wouldn't be able to do much more with them?

  • 07.07.2012 3:58 PM PDT

(^}>

I'm too scared to read all that out loud in case I summon a Dremora.

  • 07.07.2012 3:59 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: Hylebos
Didn't DeeJ say that finding out the symbol's origins were enough for now and that we wouldn't be able to do much more with them?


I'm try to say that it is unsolvable.
I don't see how those symbols could help us at all.
we know what they are.
but they arn't even right for what they are.

  • 07.07.2012 4:00 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: EuAn1196
I'm too scared to read all that out loud in case I summon a Dremora.


please do read it took me a while to figure that all out.

  • 07.07.2012 4:01 PM PDT

- Hey mars, can you smell that?
- Smell what??
- Uranus.
[Insert troll face here]

That seems too complicated for me to understand.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:04 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:02 PM PDT

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Bungie is purposely trolling us. It is Bungie Day after all.

  • 07.07.2012 4:03 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: turtle3242008
Da fuq did i just read.


Its really hard to explain
if your interested read up on the wiki page.

basically no matter what if the sequence is missing a first mother or a 4th daughter it doesn't matter because the line cannot solve in its present order.

  • 07.07.2012 4:03 PM PDT

(^}>


Posted by: shadow 2648

Posted by: EuAn1196
I'm too scared to read all that out loud in case I summon a Dremora.


please do read it took me a while to figure that all out.
Yeah, I did read it, I just meant not out loud.

  • 07.07.2012 4:05 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: EuAn1196

Posted by: shadow 2648

Posted by: EuAn1196
I'm too scared to read all that out loud in case I summon a Dremora.


please do read it took me a while to figure that all out.
Yeah, I did read it, I just meant not out loud.


I suppose if given an 8th symbol you could still solve down the line but the solution would not be "true"

  • 07.07.2012 4:07 PM PDT

Great minds discuss ideas

Average minds discuss events

Small minds discuss people

I think they just wanted us to know the translation for the names of the symbols, which makes a statement once translated. I don't think they ever intended to actually make a true geomancy sequence.

  • 07.07.2012 4:09 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: CoffeeTunic
I think they just wanted us to know the translation for the names of the symbols, which makes a statement once translated. I don't think they ever intended to actually make a true geomancy sequence.


what was that message again?
i could go translate it but you said it was in a previous thread must have missed it.

  • 07.07.2012 4:10 PM PDT

Herp
Derp.

I think you may be using the wrong symbols, could you see if:
Populus, Carcer, Fortuna Major, Puella, Caput Draconis, and Conjunctio works?

[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:12 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:10 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: chichiace
I think you may be using the wrong symbols, could you see if:
Populus, Carcer, Fortuna Major, Puella, Caput Draconis, and Conjunctio works?


No its not a matter of the missing symbol, the fact is that no matter the missing symbol the ones that are there cannot solve against eachother like a true sequence.

Read a bit closer

  • 07.07.2012 4:13 PM PDT

Great minds discuss ideas

Average minds discuss events

Small minds discuss people

I found it! If you translate it using the left to right convention, it roughly turns out to say:
"The path(Way) to reconciliation(Conjunction) is lost(Loss). Evil(Red) Triumphs(Lesser Fortune). Happiness(Joy) is delayed(Prison)."
Posted by: shadow 2648

Posted by: CoffeeTunic
I think they just wanted us to know the translation for the names of the symbols, which makes a statement once translated. I don't think they ever intended to actually make a true geomancy sequence.


what was that message again?
i could go translate it but you said it was in a previous thread must have missed it.


[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:15 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:15 PM PDT

Herp
Derp.


Posted by: shadow 2648

Posted by: chichiace
I think you may be using the wrong symbols, could you see if:
Populus, Carcer, Fortuna Major, Puella, Caput Draconis, and Conjunctio works?


No its not a matter of the missing symbol, the fact is that no matter the missing symbol the ones that are there cannot solve against eachother like a true sequence.

Read a bit closer

I mean would the ones I put be able to make a sequence, those ones are the dark diamonds in the bungie avatars.

  • 07.07.2012 4:15 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................

I found it! If you translate it using the left to right convention, it roughly turns out to say:
"The path(Way) to reconciliation(Conjunction) is lost(Loss). Evil(Red) Triumphs(Lesser Fortune). Happiness(Joy) is delayed(Prison)."
Posted by: shadow 2648
------------------------
Posted by: CoffeeTunic
I think they just wanted us to know the translation for the names of the symbols, which makes a statement once translated. I don't think they ever intended to actually make a true geomancy sequence.

-----------
what was that message again?
i could go translate it but you said it was in a previous thread must have missed it.

-------------

Interesting,
I would have been ecstatic if their message sequence had solved out.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:20 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:17 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: chichiace

Posted by: shadow 2648

Posted by: chichiace
I think you may be using the wrong symbols, could you see if:
Populus, Carcer, Fortuna Major, Puella, Caput Draconis, and Conjunctio works?


No its not a matter of the missing symbol, the fact is that no matter the missing symbol the ones that are there cannot solve against eachother like a true sequence.

Read a bit closer

I mean would the ones I put be able to make a sequence, those ones are the dark diamonds in the bungie avatars.


There isn't enough there for a full sequence either.

  • 07.07.2012 4:18 PM PDT

Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien.
Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar.
tenn' Ambar-metta!

It has been already explained here in this thread.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:21 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:20 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: MasterSin
It has already explained here in this thread.


his thread deals more in the meanings than the math, sadly bungie seems to have used the symbols for meanings alone.

  • 07.07.2012 4:21 PM PDT

Jazzer008

Deej came into a previous thread, locked it and then said, and I quote.

"Please stop inventing random telephone numbers to call. You are harassing total strangers. You are also barking up the wrong tree. The fact that you tracked these symbols to their origin is all you are meant to know about them.

For now..."

  • 07.07.2012 4:27 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: TheOne008
Deej came into a previous thread, locked it and then said, and I quote.

"Please stop inventing random telephone numbers to call. You are harassing total strangers. You are also barking up the wrong tree. The fact that you tracked these symbols to their origin is all you are meant to know about them.

For now...



Rule number one
Never stop looking.
( i also have no been calling anyone)

[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:30 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:30 PM PDT

Jazzer008

Posted by: shadow 2648

Posted by: TheOne008
Deej came into a previous thread, locked it and then said, and I quote.

"Please stop inventing random telephone numbers to call. You are harassing total strangers. You are also barking up the wrong tree. The fact that you tracked these symbols to their origin is all you are meant to know about them.

For now...



Rule number one
Never stop looking.
( i also have no been calling anyone)



Do you know what a quote is?

And if so do you know who Deej is?

  • 07.07.2012 4:33 PM PDT

Five years older and wiser
The fires are burning, I'm fire, never tire
Slay warriors in the forests, and on hire

Posted this in another thread.

Wait a second, if you look at the destiny logo it looks kinda like this symbol http://puu.sh/GFMB. If you look at the code in the article http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline12/BungieDay2012/part icles.png that symbol doesn't appear. It could be the missing symbol.

Caput Draconis

Latin for "the Head of the Dragon". The figure resembles the astrological symbol the north node of the Moon. It is neutral figure (good with good, evil with evil) but fortunate with starting or beginning new things. It is favourable for beginnings and profit, and otherwise favourable with other favourable figures, and unfavourable with unfavourable ones. It is associated with the benefic planets Jupiter and Venus, and assigned to the zodiac sign of Sagittarius; its outer element is fire due to its association with Sagittarius while its inner element is earth. Its planetary intelligences are Iophiel and Hagiel and its spirits are Hismael and Kedemel; it is associated with the deities Venus, Iove, and Vulcanus, and the angels Sachiel, Anael, and Zuriel. It is associated with the right arm.


It is neutral figure (good with good, evil with evil) but fortunate with starting or beginning new things. It is favourable for beginnings
Destiny/ Brave New world

My friend Elusive Eagle and I were talking on MSN and he said:

have you looked at the binary aspect?
I'm curious how you did the binary aspect
each figure is 4 bits
binary -> decimal: 15 6 5 3 2 1 9
each level of a symbol is either 1 or 2 dots
1 mod 2 = 1
2mod 2 = 0
for the first 7 chars you get the following:

1111 0110 0101 0011 0010 0001 1001
which in decimal form is 15 6 5 3 2 1 9
or hexadecimal is F 6 5 3 2 1 9
your eighth symbol is: 1110 or 14 or E

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Geomantic_ figures.svg

Check the 14th symbol.

  • 07.07.2012 4:36 PM PDT

Posted in a dying thread:

Posted by: ElusiveEagle519
Here's another math aspect. Using the 7 figures in the image:

Binary: 1111 0110 0101 0011 0010 0001 1001

Decimal: 15 6 5 3 2 1 9

Hexadecimal: F 6 5 3 2 1 9

And Apoc's 8th symbol is: 1110 or 14 or E


[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:41 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:40 PM PDT

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