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Subject: Bungie riddle not solvable/ proof

Five years older and wiser
The fires are burning, I'm fire, never tire
Slay warriors in the forests, and on hire

Posted by: shadow 2648
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Posted by: shadow 2648
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Here is how I did it.

So 4th daughter
and nice idea to use your script as an example

I'm going to post a version I'm working on now later that lets you pick the symbols and generates the -blam!- for you.

very nice, like i said above any chance you can get the randomizer to run true mother to daughter lines

Yeah I'll be uploading it up soon, I might go to sleep and finish it in the morning (UK).

  • 07.07.2012 5:14 PM PDT

Taking Apoc's work one step farther...

So we found the "judge" to be "Puer". The "sentence" you get from the combination of the judge and 1st mother. The sentence then is:

X-X
-X-
X-X
X-X

...which is "Ruebus".

Posted by: Wikipedia
Latin for "Red". The figure is an overturned glass; an inversion, meaning good in all that is evil, and evil in all that is good. Like the Tail of the Dragon, the figure is considered so unfavourable that if it were the first in a reading, the reading would end. Astrologically it is associated with Scorpio and Mars retrograde; its inner element is ruled by air, and its outer element ruled by water. It represents passion, deception, violence, and vice. Its planetary intelligence is Graphiel and its spirit is Bartzabel; it is associated with the god Mavors, and the angels Samael and Barbiel. It is associated with the reproductive and excretory systems along with the genitals.

  • 07.07.2012 5:30 PM PDT

Five years older and wiser
The fires are burning, I'm fire, never tire
Slay warriors in the forests, and on hire

Posted by: ElusiveEagle519
Taking Apoc's work one step farther...

So we found the "judge" to be "Puer". The "sentence" you get from the combination of the judge and 1st mother. The sentence then is:

X-X
-X-
X-X
X-X

...which is "Ruebus".

Posted by: Wikipedia
Latin for "Red". The figure is an overturned glass; an inversion, meaning good in all that is evil, and evil in all that is good. Like the Tail of the Dragon, the figure is considered so unfavourable that if it were the first in a reading, the reading would end. Astrologically it is associated with Scorpio and Mars retrograde; its inner element is ruled by air, and its outer element ruled by water. It represents passion, deception, violence, and vice. Its planetary intelligence is Graphiel and its spirit is Bartzabel; it is associated with the god Mavors, and the angels Samael and Barbiel. It is associated with the reproductive and excretory systems along with the genitals.


Remember this started with me saying [url= http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Geomantic_ caputdraconis.svg]Caput Draconis[url] looked like destiny and it's description is like destiny/fate, Ruebus is the tail of the dragon. Puer is the rider of this dragon? All 3 have something to do with battle (Mars), intelligence & good/evil.

Interestingly the 1st mother is Carcer with is the prison.

I also find it interesting how the geomancer table is ordered with Mothers, Daughters, Neice, Witnesses, Judge.

Witnesses, Judge, Prison, Good/Evil. Why do I have the feeling this is some Judge Dred vibe?

[Edited on 07.07.2012 5:38 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 5:38 PM PDT
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I'm too tired to understand this geomancy stuff right now. I'll give it a go tomorrow.

  • 07.07.2012 5:59 PM PDT

I've been gone for a while and need to be caught up on what progress you guys have made. But while I was gone, here is what I have accomplished:

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af93/Kirov099/bungiegeoman cyfirstfour.png

I took the first four symbols (in Arabic, that would be the ones on the right) and used them as mothers, generating the daughters and everything below as the wiki describes. This resulted in Via being the Judge.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af93/Kirov099/bungiegeoman cysecondfour.png

So then I used the resulting Judge and the three remaining symbols as a new set of mothers to generate a new chart. This one resulted in Fortuna Minor as the Judge.

The problem is, I have no idea how to interpret these charts. There are also a large number of different ways I could have started the charts, including using the Reconciler instead of the Judge. So I have no idea what to do next.

  • 07.07.2012 6:16 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: SPAR7ANB71
I've been gone for a while and need to be caught up on what progress you guys have made. But while I was gone, here is what I have accomplished:

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af93/Kirov099/bungiegeoman cyfirstfour.png

I took the first four symbols (in Arabic, that would be the ones on the right) and used them as mothers, generating the daughters and everything below as the wiki describes. This resulted in Via being the Judge.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af93/Kirov099/bungiegeoman cysecondfour.png

So then I used the resulting Judge and the three remaining symbols as a new set of mothers to generate a new chart. This one resulted in Fortuna Minor as the Judge.

The problem is, I have no idea how to interpret these charts. There are also a large number of different ways I could have started the charts, including using the Reconciler instead of the Judge. So I have no idea what to do next.




Chat interperitation is to much to list here, look that up on line.

  • 07.07.2012 9:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hylebos
Didn't DeeJ say that finding out the symbol's origins were enough for now and that we wouldn't be able to do much more with them?



This

  • 07.07.2012 9:27 PM PDT

It was all a ploy to get the Bungie members to learn Geomancy, contributing towards the advance of their rule over the Earth.

That's your answer. And it's obviously working.


[Edited on 07.07.2012 9:28 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 9:28 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: MrDefender

Posted by: Hylebos
Didn't DeeJ say that finding out the symbol's origins were enough for now and that we wouldn't be able to do much more with them?



This


you sir have -5 imagination. Of course there is more.

Deej said there is more by saying we knew everything ( they want us to) for NOW, implying more.
Our job has always been to get it before we are supposed to.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 9:48 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 9:47 PM PDT

READ IT.

I won the Star. With this on Week 18.

I do not think it has anything to do with that...

My theory is...


Conjunction and Prison have opposing symbols... one means 6, the other means 9.

They are opposites. Conjunctions in astronomy and astrology is the closest planets, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn seen around the Moon. Those planets play a big part in Geomancy...

There is five planets, there is five factions. The Moon is in the center of all of this. The Per Audacia ad Astra images, have a planet. But I think it is actually the MOON.

After looking up constellations of around July, what came up? Cancer. June 21st to July 21st. Cancer is related to the first symbol "The Way". Cancer's symbol is that 69 like symbol, and remember what I said about Conjunction and Prison?

Yeah, so, I believe some of this could be just coincidence, but then again, Bungie can go pretty far with their stories, right? So I think we shall see some kind of major tip the scales epic battle. Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object.

As in... our theories will go no where for now.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 9:55 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 9:52 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: Alex the Awesome
I do not think it has anything to do with that...

My theory is...


Conjunction and Prison have opposing symbols... one means 6, the other means 9.

They are opposites. Conjunctions in astronomy and astrology is the closest planets, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn seen around the Moon. Those planets play a big part in Geomancy...

There is five planets, there is five factions. The Moon is in the center of all of this. The Per Audacia ad Astra images, have a planet. But I think it is actually the MOON.

After looking up constellations of around July, what came up? Cancer. June 21st to July 21st. Cancer is related to the first symbol "The Way". Cancer's symbol is that 69 like symbol, and remember what I said about Conjunction and Prison?

Yeah, so, I believe some of this could be just coincidence, but then again, Bungie can go pretty far with their stories, right? So I think we shall see some kind of major tip the scales epic battle. Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object.

As in... our theories will go no where for now.


For now we sit then, And wait for the other shoe to drop.
I am excited

  • 07.07.2012 10:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: shadow 2648

Posted by: MrDefender

Posted by: Hylebos
Didn't DeeJ say that finding out the symbol's origins were enough for now and that we wouldn't be able to do much more with them?



This


you sir have -5 imagination. Of course there is more.

Deej said there is more by saying we knew everything ( they want us to) for NOW, implying more.
Our job has always been to get it before we are supposed to.


We've definitely been 2 steps ahead in previous ARG's and viral hunts. Though this seems just to be within Bungie so now I feel we're dealing with a whole new monster

  • 07.07.2012 10:28 PM PDT

im a huge bungie fan. im good with computers. my dream is to work at bungie, make liveing working there.

leave it to bungie to make everyone scratch their heads lol

  • 07.07.2012 10:32 PM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: Your MOM is MC

Posted by: shadow 2648

Posted by: MrDefender

Posted by: Hylebos
Didn't DeeJ say that finding out the symbol's origins were enough for now and that we wouldn't be able to do much more with them?



This


you sir have -5 imagination. Of course there is more.

Deej said there is more by saying we knew everything ( they want us to) for NOW, implying more.
Our job has always been to get it before we are supposed to.


We've definitely been 2 steps ahead in previous ARG's and viral hunts. Though this seems just to be within Bungie so now I feel we're dealing with a whole new monster


I think this might be some of the least we were ever given to go on. We have made more from less. Our chances of being right just tend to decrease exponentially.

  • 07.07.2012 11:01 PM PDT
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I'm gonna finish it. Just like Jigga did to the pyramid.

What the -blam!- is this.

  • 07.08.2012 2:44 AM PDT

Ah, someone leaked. Now to find the leak and.... plug it.
With justice.

I use coup 5
Never Played halo 1 = Invalid opinion
Bloom isn't whats broken, its your idea of what good is and your opinion
Thats like saying uber nerf armor lock because like 20 percent of the community hates it. Oh wait..................


Posted by: ALI217
What the -blam!- is this.

well if you bothered to actually read the op you would know.
Its about the symbols under the Bungie 7/7/12 update.

  • 07.08.2012 11:40 AM PDT

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