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Subject: Geomantic Figures' Meaning.

The near bottom of the post has the meaning for those of you who want to get right to the point.

Here is a key for those who want to know more about the symbols at the end of the Bungie Day post. I will add more if the post gets more popular. Tell me if I missed something or should rephrase something! :)

Geomantic Figures: Each geomantic figure represents a certain state of the world or the mind. Here is a pic of all 16 Geomantic Figures.

Understanding the figures: I would recommend skipping this part because I don't believe this will help, but read it if you feel like it has a meaning. Each figure has 4 lines, each line having one or two dots. Each line represents an element. If the line has one point, the line's element is active. If it has two, it is passive.

The Figures names in order:
1)Via
2)Conjunctio
3)Amissio
4)Fortuna Minor
5)Rubeus
6)Laetitia
7)Carcer

Description of each figure in order:
1)Via - "The Way"
- Road or path.
- It can mean change.
- Considered bad unless concerning traveling.
- Good with concerns of roads, travels, or journeys.

2)Conjunctio - "The Conjuction"
- Resembles a crossroad or joining of two figures.
- Can mean joining of forces (alliance?)
- good with joining or recovering things, especially relationships.

3)Amissio - "Loss"
- the meaning is bad or negative
- It often represents something outside of one's grasp.

4)Fortuna Minor - "The Lesser Fortune"
- It indicates a weakly positive outcome in nearly all questions.
- It represents situations that can be resolved quickly and do not need to be sustained.
- It is a figure of change and instability.

5)Rubeus - "Red"
- This basically means evil.
- It represents passion, deception, and violence.

6)Laetitia - "Joy"
- Represents potential joy.
- Could represent construction.

7)Carcer - "The Prison"
- Represents a delay or a setback.
- Also can represent being bound to something, being immobile, strength, or stability.

The Meaning: When you put all the translations in order and use the meanings of the figures to add or change words you get,"The way to stay together is lost. The one with the upper hand is evil, but there is still hope for good." This could be translated into different meanings though. For example,"But there is still hope for good" can also be seen as,"good has been set back." The first sentence is by far the hardest to translate because Via can mean "the way" or "the change" and Conjunctio can mean "connection" or an alliance.

My personal speculation: This could be a hint to the story line in the Destiny universe.Post your own speculations if you want! :D

Other Important Notes:
- According to this post, the geomantic equation has not been "Solved" yet. There either is more to find out or Bungie just wanted to get a point across.
- *More soon*

Thanks for reading, and if you enjoyed it post a reply to keep the thread alive! :D

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomantic_figures#The_geomantic_ figures

[Edited on 07.08.2012 8:11 AM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:07 PM PDT

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Wow amazing finding!

So this has to do with divination, which could be some sort of fantasy-science fiction FPS game, similar to Final Fantasy 8 mixing fantasy and science fiction, but with FPS style?

[Edited on 07.07.2012 4:18 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2012 4:12 PM PDT

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Thanks. The whole geomancy thing makes more sense now.

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campaign levels?

  • 07.07.2012 4:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Coxx153
campaign levels?


Can't be, it's a never ending MMORPG, Bungie stated they wanted a never ending universe.

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Posted by: MasterSin

Posted by: Coxx153
campaign levels?

Can't be, it's a never ending MMORPG, Bungie stated they wanted a never ending universe.

They also said Halo: Reach would be their swan song!

  • 07.07.2012 4:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Coxx153
campaign levels?
Not a chance in hell. What do they have to gain from foreshadowing the number of campaign levels or the contents of the campaign levels?

The Geomancy has to do with the setting of the game somehow, but I wouldn't read much deeper into it than that.

  • 07.07.2012 4:36 PM PDT

They also said Halo: Reach would be their swan song!
It was their swan song. 343i is now 100% in charge of halo.

  • 07.07.2012 4:38 PM PDT
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I forgot where I saw this posted so I'll have to paraphrase, but this was someone else's interpretation of it.

The path (Via) to reconciliation (Conjunctio) is lost (Amissio). The victor (Fortuna Minor) will be evil (Rubeus). Good (Laetitia) will lose (Carcer).

  • 07.07.2012 4:45 PM PDT

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Bungie has actually posted 14 symbols.... I think....

  • 07.07.2012 5:04 PM PDT

Posted by: WeededDragon
Bungie has actually posted 14 symbols.... I think....

Where?

  • 07.07.2012 5:07 PM PDT

Herp
Derp.


Posted by: InvincibleForce
Posted by: WeededDragon
Bungie has actually posted 14 symbols.... I think....

Where?

The bungie avatars, there are more shaded behind them.

  • 07.07.2012 5:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: chichiace

Posted by: InvincibleForce
Posted by: WeededDragon
Bungie has actually posted 14 symbols.... I think....

Where?

The bungie avatars, there are more shaded behind them.


Yep, in the avatars there is the highlighted diamonds then the shaded ones. The shaded ones are still symbols on the chart.

  • 07.07.2012 5:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: chichiace

Posted by: InvincibleForce
Posted by: WeededDragon
Bungie has actually posted 14 symbols.... I think....

Where?

The bungie avatars, there are more shaded behind them.


Yep, in the avatars there is the highlighted diamonds then the shaded ones. The shaded ones are still symbols on the chart.

No the shaded ones are just the diamonds that aren't being used.

The symbols are 3 X 4 diamonds. So if a symbol has 5 diamonds, then it'll have 7 diamonds that are more faded.

  • 07.07.2012 5:14 PM PDT

Nice work. But how do you come from Fortuna Minor to "the one with the upper hand"?

btw: There is no "j" in Latin.

  • 07.07.2012 5:21 PM PDT

OP here. Updated the post with more useful information and a possible meaning to all of this. If you think it is a different translation, reply!

  • 07.07.2012 5:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: WeededDragon

Posted by: chichiace

Posted by: InvincibleForce
Posted by: WeededDragon
Bungie has actually posted 14 symbols.... I think....

Where?

The bungie avatars, there are more shaded behind them.


Yep, in the avatars there is the highlighted diamonds then the shaded ones. The shaded ones are still symbols on the chart.

No the shaded ones are just the diamonds that aren't being used.

The symbols are 3 X 4 diamonds. So if a symbol has 5 diamonds, then it'll have 7 diamonds that are more faded.


But maybe Bungie is trying to trick us and it's supposed to be the unshaded ones.

Just a thought. It wouldn't surprise me.

  • 07.07.2012 5:26 PM PDT

Posted by: Simjon4two
Nice work. But how do you come from Fortuna Minor to "the one with the upper hand"?

btw: There is no "j" in Latin.


I came up with "the upper hand" because it shows a weak, but positive outcome on something and is usually changeable.
As for the 'j', any website you find on this will have it spelled with a j.

[Edited on 07.07.2012 5:29 PM PDT]

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  • 07.07.2012 5:48 PM PDT

The Song Of Nephilim

Xenoblade <3

This is what I understand from it.

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Posted by: Malloy05
everybody listen to mac2po he is 100% right

So TL:DR basically your goal is to help overthrow a super power while pushing your own affiliation (one of the 5 clans) to power?

Sounds cool and nice job copy/pasta-ing everything into one thread.

Happy B-day everyone!

  • 07.07.2012 5:56 PM PDT

i found this. hope it helps

not sure if it has been posted before though

  • 07.07.2012 8:19 PM PDT

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http://www.bungie.net/News/Blog.aspx?mode=news#cid32227

Damn I am mirin'...

  • 07.07.2012 8:20 PM PDT

See you Starside

What other company puts so much effort into cryptic languages, secret/hidden messages and all round amazing exploration quests.

We are so lucky to have a development studio like this. It would be interesting to meet the people behind the scenes.

To think, nothing about the game's story has even been announced yet. Can you imagine the in depth detail it's going to have.

I can't. It's just going to boggle the mind.

No other studio is like this.
To all the team at Bungie, Cheers to You.

See you Starside

  • 07.07.2012 8:31 PM PDT

quod te non occidit, te fortiorem faciet

Here are my thoughts.

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