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Subject: Theory (for those who have read the books)
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It seems as though everyone forgets about one enourmous part of the Halo Books, the CRYSTALS. quoted from the Prophet of Truth "It may still be enough for our cause." He was referring to the to the small fragments of crystal given to him by Tarturas. The Covenant found Reach by planting a tracking device on the Iriquois. That had coindently lead them to Reach. The Covenant seem to have some other source of finding human planets and thats how they found Reach, becuase they had found its cooridnates on some left over Forerunner artificact. It had showed the location of the crystals. What the tracking device mite have done is give the Covenant an idea of how large a fleet to send to attack Reach, which eneded up to be pretty massive.

Now what significance does the cystal have? Well for all who have read the books, you would know that the crystal altered the speed a ship passed through slip-space and it created a a rift which slowed down relative time. This crystal was built by the Forerunner.

Why does Truth want it. Well, as i do, many people belive that Truth knows the truth about Halo and has some plan to activate the halos and escape and become a dominating power in the Galaxy. Well heres how hes gonna do it. If he slows down time and moves faster he will escape the Halo kill-blast. Notice how he got to Earth in like a minute at the end of Halo 2, he has the crystal my friend and it the perfect escape tool. The Forerunner built it for that and Truth wants it for that.

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  • 06.13.2006 2:50 PM PDT
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Very true but not only does the crystal slow down time and enable you to move faster it also enables you to remain in slipstraem space longer therefore enableing truth to hide from the Halo blast due to the fact that slip space technically is a rift in time and space therefore making it a paralel dimension and therefor untouched by the blast of Halo... nice thinking bro

  • 06.13.2006 3:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Drazerin
Very true but not only does the crystal slow down time and enable you to move faster it also enables you to remain in slipstraem space longer therefore enableing truth to hide from the Halo blast due to the fact that slip space technically is a rift in time and space therefore making it a paralel dimension and therefor untouched by the blast of Halo... nice thinking bro


It's possible that the Halos also fire into slispace.

  • 06.13.2006 3:08 PM PDT
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Yeah, but all he'd get would be an empty galaxy. He ALREADY rules the Covenant which are well on their way to killing all humans, so unless he's sadistic he has no real reason to kill off all life even if he could escape the blast. Otherwise it's a solid theory.

  • 06.13.2006 3:13 PM PDT
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thats how they found Reach, becuase they had found its cooridnates on some left over Forerunner artificact

Not true, a Covie tracking device amoung the battle wreckage of a batter that Captain J. Keyes was present at (perhaps when he gave birth to the "Keyes Loop") attatched it's self and blended into it's engine manafolds. That is how the Covenant found Reach, the crystal at cote d'azure lead them to Halo.

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thats how they found Reach, becuase they had found its cooridnates on some left over Forerunner artificact

Not true, a Covie tracking device amoung the battle wreckage of a batter that Captain J. Keyes was present at (perhaps when he gave birth to the "Keyes Loop") attatched it's self and blended into it's engine manafolds. That is how the Covenant found Reach, the crystal at cote d'azure lead them to Halo.


The Rock from Sigma Octanus led them to to Reach, as well as the tracking device.

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The Halos cannot fire into slipspace, b/c, first slipspace is not connected to our space, and secondly, slipspace isn't even a space, only ships can exist in slipspace, and only because of their mass, so therefore, since energy doesn't have enough mass, it cannot exist in slipspace.

  • 06.13.2006 3:17 PM PDT

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If truth use the crystal he will die cause you can get shoot if you use the crystal thats what appened to the ascendant justice.

  • 06.13.2006 3:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: SoulReaver1134
The Halos cannot fire into slipspace, b/c, first slipspace is not connected to our space, and secondly, slipspace isn't even a space, only ships can exist in slipspace, and only because of their mass, so therefore, since energy doesn't have enough mass, it cannot exist in slipspace.




You dont know that, with the crystals none of those rules apply, like how with the crystal the master cheif and ascendant justice were able to jump into slipspace from within a planets atmosphere. Truth did it too in halo 2.

The Crystals could refract whatever it is the halos fire into slipspace, or according to my theory, the crystals take the energy sent out by the halos an sends it through slipspace so it can travel a greater distance and reach everyplanet.

  • 06.13.2006 3:21 PM PDT
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Wrong the artifact at Cote D'azure led to the Eridanus system which is where Reach is. It says in the book, First Strike, that Dr. Halsey checked the coordinates on the artifact and was suprised that they led to the Eridanus system. Also Cortana jumped into slipspace, from Threshold's atmosphere with Ascendant Justice, right after they captured it, which means that they did not have the crystal yet, Cortana just figured out a better way to use the Covenant's Slipspace technology. And, as I said before, the energy from the Halo rings cannot enter slipspace because they cannot open the hole from regular space to Slipspace. Also Truth might be able to make the slipspace jump since the crystal is in much smaller pieces, so it might not bend space as much. And as far as we know the crystal does not absorb energy, it displaces it.

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And to death incarnate, the crystal cannot change something's mass and weight, like I said, as far as we know the crystal only displaces energy, it cannot absorb it, and cannot change it's mass. As a matter of fact, energy has no mass, energy is the exact opposite of mass, mass becomes energy, which is basic physics.

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Posted by: hunta slaya
thats how they found Reach, becuase they had found its cooridnates on some left over Forerunner artificact

Not true, a Covie tracking device amoung the battle wreckage of a batter that Captain J. Keyes was present at (perhaps when he gave birth to the "Keyes Loop") attatched it's self and blended into it's engine manafolds. That is how the Covenant found Reach, the crystal at cote d'azure lead them to Halo.


im not talking about the crystal at Cote de Azur and you cannot prove anything your saying.

And good to know some smart people agree with me

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Posted by: SoulReaver1134
The Halos cannot fire into slipspace, b/c, first slipspace is not connected to our space, and secondly, slipspace isn't even a space, only ships can exist in slipspace, and only because of their mass, so therefore, since energy doesn't have enough mass, it cannot exist in slipspace.


Energy doesn't have mass dumbass (yeah it rhymes).

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The Halos cannot fire into slipspace, b/c, first slipspace is not connected to our space, and secondly, slipspace isn't even a space, only ships can exist in slipspace, and only because of their mass, so therefore, since energy doesn't have enough mass, it cannot exist in slipspace.

The Halo's could use a more stable copy of the crystal to fire into slipspace. Remember, the Covenant ships that followed the Ascendant Justice into the warped slipspace could use their weapons.

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Hmm inever thought of it that way, but it makes sense. I mean if you have enough time to kill tarturas before halo goes then truth will definatly have time to escape but couldnt they do that with out the crystal??

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Posted by: SoulReaver1134
The Halos cannot fire into slipspace, b/c, first slipspace is not connected to our space, and secondly, slipspace isn't even a space, only ships can exist in slipspace, and only because of their mass, so therefore, since energy doesn't have enough mass, it cannot exist in slipspace.


Yeah, depite the fact that they send probes into slipspace, and the books talk about stray objects like asteriods and comets drifting into slipspace.... i think your totally right that only ships can enter slipspace.

  • 06.13.2006 6:11 PM PDT
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Crap i didn't read the books i guess i can't read this

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There is one thing to the theory of having Halos' blasting into Slipspace to save themselves because Why would they have landscape, air, and Water on it while it blasts the holocaust around the galaxy? I think if i had own a Halo, I would save my home then Blowing it up into pieces.


What do you think?

  • 06.13.2006 6:49 PM PDT