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Subject: The "ARK" does not protect people!

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This needs to be cleared up. For some reason, there is speculation that the Ark is a safe haven from the activated Halo rings along with their prime activator. That assumption is innaccurate as told to us by 343 Guilty Spark. In fact, he states that upon the original firing, they all "died as planned."

Unless there is a statement otherwise that i do not recall, I believe that has to be agreed upon. I leave it open to others to post other statements that may disproove it.

  • 06.13.2006 6:21 PM PDT
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maybe it does, maybe it doesnt, we wont know till 2007

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safe what?

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It is entirely possible that they might. There is a high chance that Gulity Spark might be crazy or have a memory problem. A lot of things can happen in 100,000 years.

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ok i know for a fact it doesnt protect people. it is sort of like a control room for the halos.
the forunners activated the rings from the ark a long time agao and they were killed as planned.

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Who's to say that when he said "they all died as planned" ment that the ones in the Ark survived? Surely that'd be to their plan.

Also, take a quick look at Dictionary.com;

ark ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ärk)
n.
1. often Ark Bible. The chest containing the Ten Commandments written on stone tablets, carried by the Hebrews during their desert wanderings. Also called Ark of the Covenant.
2. often Ark Judaism. The Holy Ark.
3. Bible. The boat built by Noah for survival during the Flood.
4. Nautical. A large, commodious boat.
5. A shelter or refuge.

I think I've made my point.

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  • 06.13.2006 6:26 PM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

How do you explain how life started then? Did we evolve from some single cell organism into a human?

I still think the Ark is that ship on High Charity. I wonder if the Covenant found it 1,000 years ago? The greatest bequest to their faith before finding Halo Alpha?

Oh, wait.. I forgot. The artifact on earf is the ark.

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you spelled meant wrong, there should be an "A" after the "E"

  • 06.13.2006 6:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: cookiejarviss
ok i know for a fact it doesnt protect people. it is sort of like a control room for the halos.
the forunners activated the rings from the ark a long time agao and they were killed as planned.



Yes...basically exactly what I said, but whatever. While it is possible that Guilty Spark could have had memory corruption, it is doubtful that it would include that type of error. In fact, I believe the books state he is in fine working order besides several minor quirks.

His statement upon what Halo is, and including the fact that all of his creators died, leads me to believe that the Ark cant provide safety from the Halos.

PS: Safe Haven- a safe place. I am shocked that you did not know that, however Im not one to judge. Btw, you did not start your sentence with a capital letter. I do not care if their are minor misspells and such as long as the point is placed across and placed in an intelligent manor. Your obvious attempts to goad me into a flame war are not going to work, and I would appreciate it if you would release the animosity towards me.

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Ok, I might be wrong, but here is what I think:
We don't know if the Ark protects people inside of it or not. I think it's safe to assume that the Forerunners activated the Halo's from inside the control room of each Halo.
We know that "in the event of unexpected shutdown, all platforms move to standby status".
I think that the Ark is a backup/failsafe system: designed so that "in the event of unexpected shutdown", i.e. the Flood managing to take control of a halo control room and stopping the sequence, the Forerunners would still have the option of using the Ark to set off the Halos.
That's how the Forerunners died last time: they didn't need to use the Ark.
So we don't know what the Ark does as far as protecting life forms inside of it.

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Posted by: Redoubt
Who's to say that when he said "they all died as planned" ment that the ones in the Ark survived? Surely that'd be to their plan.

Also, take a quick look at Dictionary.com;

ark ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ärk)
n.
1. often Ark Bible. The chest containing the Ten Commandments written on stone tablets, carried by the Hebrews during their desert wanderings. Also called Ark of the Covenant.
2. often Ark Judaism. The Holy Ark.
3. Bible. The boat built by Noah for survival during the Flood.
4. Nautical. A large, commodious boat.
5. A shelter or refuge.

I think I've made my point.


A shelter of refuge does not gaurentee survival. Your home is a shelter, however you can die within your own home. According to the monitor, the all perished. I am simply stating that and nothing more. You do not need to take it as fact. Im just going to play devils adcovate.





Also, as you stated, it is possible that they didnt activate the Halos from the Ark. However, wouldnt some of them have saught shelter at the Ark? According to Spark, they all died, which makes me think that even if they didnt activate it from the Ark, the Ark wouldnt have protected them from the "attack[not the best word choice]."

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"Look, everybody always figures the time they live in is the most epic, most important age to end all ages. But tyrants and heroes rise and fall, and historians sort out the pieces." -Jolee Bindo

Well Halo has a Christian background so people think that The Ark represents Noah's ark and The Flood represents the Great Flood.

Therefore if that was true then The Ark would protect anyone within it from The Flood.

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  • 06.13.2006 6:33 PM PDT

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An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Bungie originally had plans to have large ass dinosaurs roaming the rings.. How would they have survived the activation?

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Posted by: Twelve Large
Bungie originally had plans to have large ass dinosaurs roaming the rings.. How would they have survived the activation?


They wouldnt have. Life obviously began again which is made clear by the fact that the humans and covenant are in the game.

  • 06.13.2006 6:36 PM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Yeah, but bungie had them in the game.

I think they took them out because the Xbox sucked for Dinosaurs or something.

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Posted by: x Lord Revan x
Also, as you stated, it is possible that they didnt activate the Halos from the Ark. However, wouldnt some of them have saught shelter at the Ark? According to Spark, they all died, which makes me think that even if they didnt activate it from the Ark, the Ark wouldnt have protected them from the "attack[not the best word choice]."


When did GS say they all died? He said they all died as planned, that's not the same thing. Granted, it could be, he could mean that all Forerunners died, as was planned, but he could mean that all the Forerunners ment to die, died as planned with every other sentient being, and those not ment to die, survived. As planned.

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Posted by: Twelve Large
Yeah, but bungie had them in the game.


Yes, they did. I fail to see what you are attempting to state by this...Life was obviously able to begin again, which shows that perhaps these creatures, much like those bird like creatures you see in Halo 2, would have developed upon the rings over time.

  • 06.13.2006 6:44 PM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Yeah, they could have all died.. eventually. There's nothing that says they all died right away.

  • 06.13.2006 6:45 PM PDT

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Yeah, but bungie had them in the game.


Yes, they did. I fail to see what you are attempting to state by this...Life was obviously able to begin again, which shows that perhaps these creatures, much like those bird like creatures you see in Halo 2, would have developed upon the rings over time.


Bungie had plans to have life roaming around the rings. They even had them in the game when it wasn't on the Xbox. I'll go get you some videos to prove it.

  • 06.13.2006 6:46 PM PDT

I feel like the ark could protect people. Guilty Spark was on Halo 04, so if any forerunners did survive in the ark, then he wouldn't have known. Seeing the Halos activated he would have just assumed they all died. anyways, that's how its still possible that it could protect people. (i'm not saying that's what i think happened, i'm just saying it could be that way)

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Posted by: Redoubt
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Also, as you stated, it is possible that they didnt activate the Halos from the Ark. However, wouldnt some of them have saught shelter at the Ark? According to Spark, they all died, which makes me think that even if they didnt activate it from the Ark, the Ark wouldnt have protected them from the "attack[not the best word choice]."


When did GS say they all died? He said they all died as planned, that's not the same thing. Granted, it could be, he could mean that all Forerunners died, as was planned, but he could mean that all the Forerunners ment to die, died as planned with every other sentient being, and those not ment to die, survived. As planned.


Incorrect if you follow the correct convections and such of proper english. I doubt very much that Guilty Spark can be interpreted differently. He is a computer programmed to state concise and accurate knowledge.

According to all the data gathered from both Cortana and stated by Guilty Spark, they "all" died as planned. The very use of the world all must mean that every last one died. It is refering to the race as a total, not a particular group. Its sentence structure. Unless, Bungie decided to leave it open to interpretation even when it shouldn't be open to it.

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Also, as you stated, it is possible that they didnt activate the Halos from the Ark. However, wouldnt some of them have saught shelter at the Ark? According to Spark, they all died, which makes me think that even if they didnt activate it from the Ark, the Ark wouldnt have protected them from the "attack[not the best word choice]."


When did GS say they all died? He said they all died as planned, that's not the same thing. Granted, it could be, he could mean that all Forerunners died, as was planned, but he could mean that all the Forerunners ment to die, died as planned with every other sentient being, and those not ment to die, survived. As planned.


Incorrect if you follow the correct convections and such of proper english. I doubt very much that Guilty Spark can be interpreted differently. He is a computer programmed to state concise and accurate knowledge.

According to all the data gathered from both Cortana and stated by Guilty Spark, they "all" died as planned. The very use of the world all must mean that every last one died. It is refering to the race as a total, not a particular group. Its sentence structure. Unless, Bungie decided to leave it open to interpretation even when it shouldn't be open to it.



You know what: you're really starting to piss me off with your whole "holier than thou" english speeches. Guess what: you misspelled conventions. Start listening to what people say instead of flaming them for their english skills.

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Posted by: Rakdos
You know what: you're really starting to piss me off with your whole "holier than thou" english speeches. Guess what: you misspelled conventions. Start listening to what people say instead of flaming them for their english skills.


Fine, I appologize for being somewhat arrogant I suppose. However, it was ment to be convections.

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