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Subject: The "ARK" does not protect people!

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

I'm still working on those old videos of those giant creatures. Too bad we can't ride them.

http://www2.mythica.org/halo/old/

I think they might be located at the link above. I'll have to search through them all. I'll be back when I find 'em.

  • 06.13.2006 7:04 PM PDT
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343 said that the creators all died as planned. however has he ever been to earth be for? because if he hasnt how would he know if they all died?

  • 06.13.2006 7:04 PM PDT

Twelve Large ²

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Cause they were mortal? He could have been wrong too. If we are decendants of the forerunner, then they didn't exactly all die. But I'm not so sure we are forerunner.

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  • 06.13.2006 7:05 PM PDT

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Well the Halo rings communicate at super "luminous" speeds, so in theory...Guilty Spark could have contacted the Ark perhaps and known whether they all perished or not. I suppose there is some room for a gap in it there due to the fact that he hasn't left Halo.

  • 06.13.2006 7:10 PM PDT
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For 343 to know that they all died he would have to of been to earth, and everywhere the forerunner had lived. i don't think he could of done any of this as he is the "monitor" of instalation 04. i think he was told/programmed to know that if the rings activated they would all die... and there is no evidance that they really all did die.

Sure there are no forerunner.. dosent mean we arent the decidants our selfs or there are some alive somewhere. your theroy dosent prove the arc theroy wrong at all.

  • 06.13.2006 7:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: x Lord Revan x
Posted by: Twelve Large
Bungie originally had plans to have large ass dinosaurs roaming the rings.. How would they have survived the activation?


They wouldnt have. Life obviously began again which is made clear by the fact that the humans and covenant are in the game.
Ok, let me get this straight. You are implying that we evolved from single cell oraganisms in just one hundred thousand years? You, Sir, are as crazy as Guilty Spark himself.

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Ya another great point brought up by lone heritic. i guess this would mean that we would have to of decident from something that lived be for the rings we activated and if we are decandants of something that lived be for the rings were activated then the rings didnt exactly work as they should have because we are still here.

  • 06.13.2006 7:21 PM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

What about that multiplayer level that chicago had to hoard all to themselves.. What was that level about?

Location: Military robot testing center on Earth
Level Caption: Deep in Chicago Industrial Zone 08 lies the decommissioned Tactical Autonomous Robotic Defense System testing facility

Ah, nevermind.. Useless..

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  • 06.13.2006 7:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Lone Heretic
Posted by: x Lord Revan x
Posted by: Twelve Large
Bungie originally had plans to have large ass dinosaurs roaming the rings.. How would they have survived the activation?


They wouldnt have. Life obviously began again which is made clear by the fact that the humans and covenant are in the game.
Ok, let me get this straight. You are implying that we evolved from single cell oraganisms in just one hundred thousand years? You, Sir, are as crazy as Guilty Spark himself.


Actually no...Go look at my sentient life thread. Also, this is technically a sci-fi game. It could include anything...so it is possible.

  • 06.13.2006 7:26 PM PDT
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Still halo is based on a certain ammount of fact - so the life couldnt evolve this fast without some sort of help along the way? a greater senient life form helping live and proced faster? perhaps the forerunner... but how would they survive the Rings... possibly the ark? lol

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I know, again as in the other thread, just busting your balls, seeing what you would reply with. I can only think of mabey two or three theories concieved on these threads that have no holes. And even then, they were just speculation.

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lol i belive in the ark theroy of protecting sentient life however i still understand its just a theroy. nothing can really prove it isnt true or can prove it is true... and that is of corse - Halo III

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Posted by: Twelve Large

Level Caption: Deep in Chicago Industrial Zone 08 lies the decommissioned Tactical Autonomous Robotic Defense System
Yes, you cannot have Chicago without T.A.R.D.S. (much disrespect to Chicagoans).

  • 06.13.2006 7:39 PM PDT

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Actually, I think the theory of evolution fits perfectly and actually does make sense to a degree. Although, you will just state, "Thats a theory too" to play devils adcovate.

Everything can be interpreted besides solid writing. Even then, the mind finds ways to, but the solid fact remains in writing. Everything in history was written from a point of view. So technically, anything and everything in our lives can be seen as false.

  • 06.13.2006 7:42 PM PDT
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*cough* naive.. *cough* Arrogant.. *cough cough*

  • 06.13.2006 7:44 PM PDT
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Nothing personal...

Maybe they "died". Who knows, maybe the Forerunners wanted to cover their tracks...

  • 06.13.2006 7:45 PM PDT

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Big Ass Giants On Halo Here!

it's 159MB

  • 06.13.2006 7:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: x Lord Revan x
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Also, as you stated, it is possible that they didnt activate the Halos from the Ark. However, wouldnt some of them have saught shelter at the Ark? According to Spark, they all died, which makes me think that even if they didnt activate it from the Ark, the Ark wouldnt have protected them from the "attack[not the best word choice]."


When did GS say they all died? He said they all died as planned, that's not the same thing. Granted, it could be, he could mean that all Forerunners died, as was planned, but he could mean that all the Forerunners ment to die, died as planned with every other sentient being, and those not ment to die, survived. As planned.


Incorrect if you follow the correct convections and such of proper english. I doubt very much that Guilty Spark can be interpreted differently. He is a computer programmed to state concise and accurate knowledge.

According to all the data gathered from both Cortana and stated by Guilty Spark, they "all" died as planned. The very use of the world all must mean that every last one died. It is refering to the race as a total, not a particular group. Its sentence structure. Unless, Bungie decided to leave it open to interpretation even when it shouldn't be open to it.

who are you to say that its not open to interpretation when almost everything that 343 says could have more than one meaning. if bungie didnt leave things open to interpretation, then the games wouldnt be as good, there would be no threads or much of a website here if it wasnt for that


i have alot of things to say here, so hear me out.
one thing im pretty sure of is that the halos were activated from the halo in Halo:CE because 343 said "last time you asked me if it were my choice, would i do it?(when the mc brought the index to the control room) My answer has not changed. we must activate the ring" blah blah yap yap. im pretty sure thats how it went. so it seems to me that gs personally spoke to the guy/forerunner dood who activated it, but hell i could be wrong.
i also think that an advanced civilization like the forerunners would have made some sort of safehouse, right??
and x Lord Revan x dont take this personally but you shouldnt be so dead set on your theory being true because IF its not, youll be disapointed when h3 comes out and doesnt go the way you wanted it to go. im not flaming you its just some advice that i find useful.
and somebody said that maybe the forerunner or some advanced sentient beings help guide our evotution. that makes sense because wat if they were doing that and set the halos off and we werent fully evolved yet? the halos wouldnt kill us and we could have evolved the rest of the way on our own. or maybe in case they did set off the rings they could have had set something off that would release like some sort of primitive form of their dna or something. so if you think about it, maybe activating the halos didnt just kill the forerunners but just make them start over from scratch? and how do we know that a 100,000 years to 343 is 100,000 years to us. i think im rambling so ill stop for now

  • 06.13.2006 8:29 PM PDT
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Who says that the "ark" has to keep the people alive. The "ark" could just store the forerunner's DNA so that their race could continue. All the forerunner would die ,yes, but that dosent mean that their race did.

  • 06.13.2006 9:11 PM PDT
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guys, ever think that 343 is just referring to the flood or people infected with flood when hes sayd they all died. By the way, if the flood need humans or COV's for food, how is it that they've survived on the Halos for 100,000 years? Now thats a question that needs to be answered

  • 06.14.2006 8:06 AM PDT

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OMG!!!! SOMEONE HAS ACTUALLY REALISED THE TRU7H!!! THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD IS RIGHT!!!! sorry the caps lock got stuck for a moment there.

  • 06.14.2006 8:08 AM PDT
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carnage swat. . . u r the man!!!!!!

  • 06.14.2006 9:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: x Lord Revan x
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Also, as you stated, it is possible that they didnt activate the Halos from the Ark. However, wouldnt some of them have saught shelter at the Ark? According to Spark, they all died, which makes me think that even if they didnt activate it from the Ark, the Ark wouldnt have protected them from the "attack[not the best word choice]."


When did GS say they all died? He said they all died as planned, that's not the same thing. Granted, it could be, he could mean that all Forerunners died, as was planned, but he could mean that all the Forerunners ment to die, died as planned with every other sentient being, and those not ment to die, survived. As planned.


Incorrect if you follow the correct convections and such of proper english. I doubt very much that Guilty Spark can be interpreted differently. He is a computer programmed to state concise and accurate knowledge.

According to all the data gathered from both Cortana and stated by Guilty Spark, they "all" died as planned. The very use of the world all must mean that every last one died. It is refering to the race as a total, not a particular group. Its sentence structure. Unless, Bungie decided to leave it open to interpretation even when it shouldn't be open to it.


I'm sorry, but I have to do this. You understand, right? You did the whole "Holier than thou" thing, so now I have to revel in being right.

If I were an ol' farmer, named Giles for argument's sake, and I had a chickin coop which was constantly under attack from wild foxes, I'd be rather annoyed. To get my revenge, I'd put a few nasty traps down.

The next day, assuming all went well, I'd see all the foxes in the traps, dead. They'd all have died as planned.

Now, here's the clever bit, that doesn't mean that every fox in the world is dead, oooh no. It means the foxes that were ment to die, died, and the ones that wern't, lived.

See?

Betchya feel silly now. I know I would.

  • 06.14.2006 9:16 AM PDT

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