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Subject: If you could add any map to the MLG rotation.....

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: ShootyNinja95

Posted by: shortD42 is aBK

Posted by: ShootyNinja95
I would love to see Isolation as an tropical island kinda like Relic.

OT: i want blackout back
It never was in the pro circuit. They weren't that stupid. It was terrible to play which is why it was removed in less than a month.


Sorry thought it was. am i the only one enjoying blackout? everyone seems to hate it


I like Blackout as well. I think it gets a lot of hate because it's rather different from Lockout as far as gameplay for some reason and the gameplay is similar to Guardian in a lot of ways.

  • 07.10.2012 7:54 AM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: shortD42 is aBK

Posted by: batchynator

Posted by: swvjdirector

Posted by: Colossal Dave

Posted by: swvjdirector
Of course, these are the people who brought us Guardian.....

Hey now, that map is good! Overshield just needs to go if you are playing vanilla team games


Well yeah, it works in MLG, I just don't like it with default settings because of the horribly unbalanced initial spawn and the standoffishness. It works great with MLG Oddball, though.


I think where OS is, should be replaced by another AC, and they should have an OS in the middle of the map (top level) and initial spawns which give both teams an equal opportunity to get it. Shiska screwed guardian good and proper.


Guardian is fine. I don't see what the problem is. OS isn't a huge advantage. One nade and it's gone.


The problem is that the elbow spawn team is immediately able to push snipe, invis AND OS. Bottom blue spawn can only push Invis (which they may or may not get) and Shotgun (which in no way is a substitute for a sniper). After that, the gameplay becomes extremely standoffish. One side camps S1-S3 and the other chills G1-G2, and nobody really does anything. The sniper has a massive advantage and S1-S3 team can also just wait on the OV in order to abuse the invincibility it grants.

In MLG Oddball, this is all fine because the teams really don't have the same standoffs and only invis and snipe spawn at the start, and neither of them are the main objective. It just leads to smoother gameplay.

[Edited on 07.10.2012 7:59 AM PDT]

  • 07.10.2012 7:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: swvjdirector

Posted by: ShootyNinja95

Posted by: shortD42 is aBK

Posted by: ShootyNinja95
I would love to see Isolation as an tropical island kinda like Relic.

OT: i want blackout back
It never was in the pro circuit. They weren't that stupid. It was terrible to play which is why it was removed in less than a month.


Sorry thought it was. am i the only one enjoying blackout? everyone seems to hate it


I like Blackout as well. I think it gets a lot of hate because it's rather different from Lockout as far as gameplay for some reason and the gameplay is similar to Guardian in a lot of ways.


Yes, I've already explained why Lockout is far superior to Blackout in every way possible. The map was just a lot more fun and wasn't unbalanced like Blackout is. I'd rather play Orbital in MLG than Blackout.

Also, it was in the playlist for around a month, but never on the pro circuit or any event. The pros even thought it was one of the worst maps in Halo 3 so it got removed almost immediately.

  • 07.10.2012 10:00 AM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better

All the things Blackout did wrong:

Library (open vs closed windows)
Just outside lift (Lockout is open, Blackout has retarded ramps)
Railing
Pillars
Scale and detail
Power core vs Fusion coils
Rooms

Yes, basically the entire -blam!- map.

[Edited on 07.10.2012 10:19 AM PDT]

  • 07.10.2012 10:12 AM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better


Posted by: swvjdirector

Posted by: ShadowsKiller
Orbital obviously. Probably the most skilled map in any Halo game.
















:-)


Even seeing the word "Orbital" made me want to kill myself. If the spawns worked, and corridors weren't so tight, and it weren't a nadefest, and if it were a completely different map, I might like it.


Map isn't that bad. You just aren't very good at it.

Orbital is better than Rat's Nest and Blackout.

[Edited on 07.10.2012 10:21 AM PDT]

  • 07.10.2012 10:18 AM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: shortD42 is aBK

Posted by: swvjdirector

Posted by: ShadowsKiller
Orbital obviously. Probably the most skilled map in any Halo game.
















:-)


Even seeing the word "Orbital" made me want to kill myself. If the spawns worked, and corridors weren't so tight, and it weren't a nadefest, and if it were a completely different map, I might like it.


Map isn't that bad. You just aren't very good at it.

Orbital is better than Rat's Nest and Blackout.


I honestly think it comes down to personal preference. Some of my best games have been on Orbital, but that doesn't stop me hating it. I really don't mind Blackout very much; you clearly do. Just depends on the type of gameplay you like.

  • 07.10.2012 1:41 PM PDT

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Citadel would be the only logical one. Isolation was on the circuit but was taken off due to, I don't know, maybe the fact that it's garbage? When Mythic 2 came out the Pros were playing on it during a tournament just as free play and Sundance suggested maybe some Ball on Citadel. I'm sure they probably tested it and it didn't work but like I said it seems like the only logical option.. Besides forged maps.

  • 07.10.2012 9:50 PM PDT

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  • 07.10.2012 9:54 PM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: iTz LiMeSoDa
Citadel would be the only logical one. Isolation was on the circuit but was taken off due to, I don't know, maybe the fact that it's garbage? When Mythic 2 came out the Pros were playing on it during a tournament just as free play and Sundance suggested maybe some Ball on Citadel. I'm sure they probably tested it and it didn't work but like I said it seems like the only logical option.. Besides forged maps.


At first I might have also suggested Assembly, but I think the map is too equipment-centric (two drainers, a bubble and a regen). Citadel already has good weapon spawns, symmetrical setup, a nice aesthetic, and relatively smooth gameplay.

  • 07.11.2012 6:58 AM PDT

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