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Subject: Should Bungie take it to the max? Be advised..... mature content.
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Not sure if this fits in with the m/player or campaign threads for Halo 3. Maybe.... but the mods will decide either way.

Anyway, I was thinking about the horror of war (on Xbox Live) before and something occured to me.

There is a serious shortage of exploding heads in Halo.

So... what I was thinking is. Should a headshot from the sniper rifle (and ONLY the sniper rifle) result in the multiplayer character's head exploding like an over-ripe water melon? Maybe.....maybe not... I don't even know myself.

It kind of goes against the grain of my general thought to suggest this kind of uber-violence but Halo is a video game and .... well.... it's a video game that is already pretty violent. I think it could add a real sense of dread to multiplayer. Then again, maybe it's just too excessive. I really can't make my own mind up about this and it'd be interesting to hear people's views.

So, what do you think? I'm uncertain.

I don't think Bungie would do it myself... something tells me it's not their bag. Probably rightly so....

  • 06.14.2006 11:14 AM PDT
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Halo 3 will have to be rated T for Teen otherwise Jack Thompson will sue.


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  • 06.14.2006 11:20 AM PDT
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It was rated M both times, it wouldnt matter.

The only thing i say to your head expliding proposition is it is un-realistic. People's heads dont expliode from bullets, the bullet goes through, and comes out the other end, it dosnt transfer any energy in any other direction than its going. Simple physics. I also dont think it needs any of that kind of stuff. I would definately love to see a little more reality in Campaign though, like if your freind gt shot in the leg, he would limp, or in the chest and he would hold his chest and so forth. We dont need gore to make things good.

  • 06.14.2006 11:26 AM PDT
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A good point. Has anyone here read First Strike? They mention the effect that a direct Brute Shot to a Spartan's stomach has, complete disembowelment. The description was pretty graphic. Also in The Fall of Reach, one of the Spartan's got his arm blown clean off from a Hunter's fusion cannon. And in The Flood, they go into a lot of detail as to the effects of a plasma rifle on the chest of the poor medic in the cryo-control room. And yet these details are absent in the game. My guess is, if you want a sniper rifle to pop someone's head off, your best bet is to turn to the books.


P.S. I actually would have loved to see one of my favortie book moments in the video game: A Spartan sneaks up behind a Jackal and blows his brains out with the magnum, splattering brains and skull bits onto his enegry shield. That would make an awesome visual in the movie.

  • 06.14.2006 11:36 AM PDT

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Yes, headshots should puncture a hole in you, or at least make your head pop and let blood squirt everywhere.


How cool would it be to see a Marine take a shotgun blast to the chest, and he is kicked onto his back and squirms as he tries to pick out the individual pellets? *cringes*

Plasma nades should tear apart the victim and leave his or her clothes in a raging fire..

Frags should do the same on a smaller scale, but no fire..and there should be the pulpy smack sound if someone was standing on the nade..

Plasma needs to burn away people's faces like it's described to do in the books..and make plasma bounce off of the -blam!- ing Hunters' shields again! And make plasma actually..effect..walls...and trees..and the ground..and everything it should..


Should only take effect in Campaign mode, to Marines and Covenant..and Flood..

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  • 06.14.2006 11:41 AM PDT
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As I was typing out the thread I'd already pretty much thought it was a very bad idea. I think that shows.

I'm in agreement with everybody on here and, technical details surrounding what happens when skulls, brains and bullets collide aside, I think exploding heads would not suit the game at all.

In honesty, I can't think now why I thought it was a good idea at all.

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  • 06.14.2006 11:42 AM PDT

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Large calibur rounds, or a close range shotty blast would knock off part of your head (just the top, side, etc.)

  • 06.14.2006 11:45 AM PDT
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It would shift the focus of the game away from intense gameplay towards gruesome deaths. One of the strengths of Halo is that it depicts violence in as PG of a way as possible. Exploding heads and detached limbs would limit the fanbase to older gamers, and would place Halo in the violence spotlight right next to GTA and Unreal games.


"Mature Content" isn't what the games are about, such content would glorify violence for violence's sake. Halo's violence is violence that is absolutely necessary to save humanity, nothing more.

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Now this thread has me wondering what the effects of a Scorpion Tank shell or Wraith cannon would realistically have at close range. I would imagine the gauss cannon would simply punch a hole clean through an opponent.

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Nah, I dont think the heads should explode, mainly because its a sniper rifle, the bullet is going to go so fast it will go straight through the head it would just leave a hole. I do think Bungie should put alot more blood in the game though, and if you want exploding heads, I think it would be more reasonable for a head to explode with a brute shot to the face! :P

  • 06.14.2006 12:12 PM PDT
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that'd be awesome!!

  • 06.14.2006 12:13 PM PDT

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A Scorpion Tank blows you in half..and a High Calibur Sniper round would destroy your cranium..no doubt about that. I t would knock off a large section, if not the whole thing.

  • 06.14.2006 12:15 PM PDT
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A bullet can blow a mans head apart especially if its a HE round, just that most the time the sniper bullet goss through the brain

  • 06.14.2006 12:19 PM PDT
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Over-the-top gore only distracts from what is happening elsewhere. It also doesn't fit Halo's artistic style very well. It's unnessicary and only adds another layer of complexity where something can go wrong and glitch up horribly.

However, I do think that AIs should react like they actually got hit; if an AI gets hit in the leg, they should have a limp, possible even to the point where they can't move.

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Posted by: Retarded Moose
Halo 3 will have to be rated T for Teen otherwise Jack Thompson will sue.


Who is this guy and why does he want it rated Teen?

  • 06.14.2006 12:27 PM PDT
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I think exploding heads may be a little over the top.... I havent played a FPS yet that was that graphic. Although some audience may want this its not a desire from a majority of the gamers. We want gameplay quality and fun...

  • 06.14.2006 12:28 PM PDT

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