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Subject: I'm sorry, fellow Mawmen...
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So sorry, but this forum really has gone to hell. I think Jman's created a thread with a similar air, but...I don't think it got the point across.

Since when do people flame others who come to the forum for help? I mean, not everyone knows EVERYthing about computers, there is no excuse for you to flame other members simply because they don't know...when a Beta was released, for example, or what features will be on a specifc game. I see people being flamed for the most trivial of reasons, not knowing what features will come on the next OS or game, or what features exsist on current games.

Then, there are those who post in bad grammar and spelling. Is it too much to ask to utilize those skills you learned in school and type in coherent sentences? A spelling or gramar lapse every so often is acceptable and understandable, but when every post you make uses the same difficult-to-read tone and manner, it only leads to trouble. Shorthand is excuseable on IM, but this is a forum, completely different from what your IM is like.

Another issue of contention in my mind are those who try to correct others. While it is justifiable to correct someone, pointing them to the right forum, it is NOT justifiable to flame someone (i.e. call them names or insult their intelligence) because they posted incoherently or in the wrong area. Simply correct them, don't call them names.

This is not just the fault of any one single person, but I have seen this over and over again, from members all across the board. You know who you are. I don't expect an apology or even a response, but I DO expect to see change around the forum.

When I joined the forum, you could waltz in and ask a question, even a "stupid one" such as, how to install something, without being flamed, and receiving encouragement and advice along the way. And now, in order to get even a little advice, you must know almost everything that has happened under the sun. Now I ask each and every one of you, what happened to those times?

I'm disappointed, I really am.

[Edited on 6/14/2006]

  • 06.14.2006 1:42 PM PDT
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Totally agree. But then again, it's like this in almost all Halo forums.

  • 06.14.2006 1:48 PM PDT
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amen

  • 06.14.2006 1:49 PM PDT

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After kim saying pc gamers are more mature:
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we r?

this forum has changed... I remember when I first posted, the only time I got flamed was because I bumped my topic, and was told "it takes time for someone to reply."

now there are a lot of people downgrading others a lot. Just give them respect.

  • 06.14.2006 1:57 PM PDT
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I plead myself guilty, your honor.

  • 06.14.2006 1:59 PM PDT

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You know Kim you always plead guilty but you never repent.

REPENT! SINNER!

*Throw Kim into a pit of writing snakes*

If the heathen survives the Trail of the Asps then he is repentent! If he doesn't well....

Back on topic, yes it has pretty bad in here lately everyone needs to chillout a little.

  • 06.14.2006 2:21 PM PDT
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I chill out at Chill Out. I pwn dozens of noobs on that map.

  • 06.14.2006 2:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: me15ter


Then, there are those who post in bad grammar and spelling. Is it too much to ask to utilize those skills you learned in school and type in coherent sentences? A spelling or gramar lapse every so often is acceptable and understandable, but when every post you make uses the same difficult-to-read tone and manner, it only leads to trouble. Shorthand is excuseable on IM, but this is a forum, completely different from what your IM is like.



Not all of us go to English school.

apart from the part I coated above, i agree.

  • 06.14.2006 2:28 PM PDT

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im afraid im gonna have to confiscate your testicles.

What are you, the Cyber police? lol.

Yeah, when I asked what vista was because I looked it up on google and didnt have to read alot about it, I made a thread asking what it was and a ton of people starting flaming me and saying I was ignorant and that.

  • 06.14.2006 2:48 PM PDT
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i agree

  • 06.14.2006 3:55 PM PDT
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Ignore anything I've ever said that was offensive to you. I'm retarded.

However, it wouldn't be so hard for you guys to Google something.

  • 06.14.2006 4:07 PM PDT
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Now that more Xbox little overcaffinated 10 year olds and getting haloPC for the better graphics and to play with the legendary pistol, servers are going to hell too.

  • 06.14.2006 4:17 PM PDT
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Your so called "Xbox little overcaffinated 10 year olds" probably wouldn't know about the fact that PCs have better graphics than Xboxes.

And at least it's not as bad as on Xbox Live. Anyways, H2 PC won't have as many immature brats as HPC or as Xbox Live.

However, not all people under the age of thirteen are spoiled, whining, vulgar retarded noobs. Some are quite polite, smart, and good players. Let's hope if we see a younger crowd herding to H2 PC, that they'll be decent and mature.

  • 06.14.2006 5:46 PM PDT
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Gezz, just trying to make a small joke there. All that I am saying is that over the past few months, I have come accross more more rasist, rude and annoying people then I have in CS, and that is saying a LOT, and the number seems to be increasing, one of my friends even bought a new CD and plays on a seperate computer just to TK people for fun.

  • 06.14.2006 5:59 PM PDT
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I know what you're talking about, but hey, that's Gearbox's fault for not putting a decent, straight-forward kicking/banning system in the game.

Btw, CS rules.

  • 06.14.2006 6:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Master Kim
Your so called "Xbox little overcaffinated 10 year olds" probably wouldn't know about the fact that PCs have better graphics than Xboxes.

And at least it's not as bad as on Xbox Live. Anyways, H2 PC won't have as many immature brats as HPC or as Xbox Live.

However, not all people under the age of thirteen are spoiled, whining, vulgar retarded noobs. Some are quite polite, smart, and good players. Let's hope if we see a younger crowd herding to H2 PC, that they'll be decent and mature.


*Grabs Kim by the ear*

That is exactly the kind of responses we are talking about in the ORIGINAL topic of this thread!

  • 06.14.2006 6:11 PM PDT
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I didn't mean for it to sound that way, lolzors.

EDIT: For the last time, I'm retarded. Ignore me.

[Edited on 6/14/2006]

  • 06.14.2006 6:13 PM PDT
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Yes, yes it did. But people just don't listen.
-blam!-...after seeing this monstrosity I'm really not sure what to think anymore.

There are some intelligent people here but they are throwing all their knowledge and respect away by making threads like that. And simply being rude and disrespectful, mabe this is why no one comes here anymore...

I don't know...maybe it's just the fact I have this huge un-finished assignment due tommorrow, or maybe I'm just tired...But guys, I feel like leaving this forum right now, and not coming back...I thought maybe my thread would open some people's eyes.

I understand it's only a minority that's conveying this behaviour, and the majority of you are good people. But it's just too damn depressing. I've already made a home for myself at halo.bungie.org, and it really just pains me when I encounter all the nice, helpful people there, and come here; and see terrible, spiteful threads.

I guess I'll sleep on it...

  • 06.14.2006 7:39 PM PDT
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I don't think it's quite enough if people simply apologize. I expect people to actually take those words to heart and change.

I'm going AFK for a few days. I just hope I can come back to a changed forum.

  • 06.15.2006 7:31 AM PDT
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Its a forum, a computer games forum. Its bound to be full of annoying, illiterate kids. Mostly, I agree with your points, but Im afraid you just have to deal with it instead of making a song and dance, because as much as Id like it too, your rants wont make a difference.

  • 06.15.2006 7:53 AM PDT

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Its a forum, a computer games forum. Its bound to be full of annoying, illiterate kids. Mostly, I agree with your points, but Im afraid you just have to deal with it instead of making a song and dance, because as much as Id like it too, your rants wont make a difference.

I agree:
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

  • 06.15.2006 8:43 AM PDT
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I agree with my good friend, totally true, when i first came to these forums they were awesome but have slowly gone down hill like my School...

  • 06.15.2006 2:08 PM PDT
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Yes, yes it did. But people just don't listen.
-blam!-...after seeing this monstrosity I'm really not sure what to think anymore.

I dunno Iggy you said some pretty rude stuff yourself on that thread.....
Anyway when I started playing HaloPC I was 12 and I have never been racist, sexist, called people HAXXORS, and tried to be polite on these forums and in game. Although it did take me awhile to learn to type correctly. Wow your saying that its getting worse than counter strike? Holy -blam- thats as bad as it gets. I wonder what has made so many overcaffinated 10 year olds (lol did you make that up or steal it off of some site/place/person/TVshoy?) come all of a sudden. I mean, just 6 months ago this place was good natured and revelling in many "im new to halo" and "hi!" thread in wich we all had fun saying *one of us! one of us!* How did those innocent people turn into such ill-spirited monsters? I apologize to anybody offended by that remark but it just had to be said. In this 20-minute typing spree, what I mean to say is, what happened to the good-natured forum I came into when I first logged into bungie.net?

  • 06.16.2006 7:40 PM PDT
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Flaming may be taking it to far, but honestly stop and think about it. I recently saw a thread of someone asking "What is windows Vista", must that be asked in a Halo forum of all places, and secondly it's easier to type www.google.com, then to come to bungie, navigate to the threads and make an elaborate post!

Try it yourself. http://www.google.com
Type in Windows Vista and get pages upon pages of answers. Google would provide more help then us.

We are entering a new dawn of computer users. The kind that doesn't read manuals or visit google.com

I'm sorry but in my last few days here I've seen over 10 threads (10!!!) asking how to use a dedicated server or something very similair!

I dont think this thread is necessary, and I dont think these forums are going to hell...

As for the
When I joined the forum, you could waltz in and ask a question, even a "stupid one" such as, how to install something, without being flamed, and receiving encouragement and advice along the way.


I've seen all the advice I need to know given out "read the stickies".
Flaming is the performance "art" of posting messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting.

I have not seen anyone post anything hostile, or insulting. Sure we may not resopnd in the kindest of matters, but can you really expect us to when we just answered the same question 30 minutes ago?

(Hey I got that definition on google *laughs evilly*)

  • 06.16.2006 8:18 PM PDT

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