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Subject: forerunner are definitly alive (evidence from halo CE ingame speech)

I am a Floodian

it can't be the flood because it said creators, so it has to be talking about the forunners, HOWEVER, we don't know what reproduced could mean. If Earth is a forunner structure, and the forunnners reproduced, isn't possible that humans are actually forunners, with like amnesia, or just a people in diguise

This would explain the "gods" of the past, and alien sitings today, just forunners, or something like that

They probably evovled to look like us, its how the world works you know. Forunners, or the forunners of the past, may very well be gone, leaving the only ones left to be humans

That is what guilty spark is talking about, he is so glad to see that they reproduced, he is talking about the humans

  • 06.16.2006 5:48 AM PDT
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Look I am a firmbeliever in the Human linke to forerunner theory, but natural evolution doesn't make sense.


Now me theory is that the Forerunner Found Earth after the time of the Dinosaurs, when most life was extinguished. Halos might have caused this, but all small life forms without "sufficent Biomass to sustain the flood" (343 Guilty spark quote) survived. The Forerunners, addept with bioengineering because of the Flood, introduced their DNA into some of the primative monkeys on Earth. This Theory explains why all primates did not evolve past their current state, and that the Ark is on Earth.

I am probably going to post my own Thread on this

  • 06.16.2006 8:16 AM PDT
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why would he talk about the flood? why would he be glad the flood would reproduce? he's talking about humans being the forerunners, or at least he thinks theyr are, he can be mistaken.


thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you.

finally someone agrees. why would he be happy to see the flood? he's happy to see that his creators have survived and came back.

i didnt catch the name of who i just quoted but you should have been in this other thread. i couldnt get the point across that its obvious he's talking about forerunners= humans

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  • 06.16.2006 11:04 AM PDT

THIS DEBATE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL HALO 3 IS RELEASED

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Posted by: opogjijijp
Tha's not what he says. He doesn't mention the creators of Halo

The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce.


Isn't there debate that the sentence "Their survival as a race was dependent upon it." was actually Spark's erratic mind flitting from Flood to Forerunners (meaning the Forerunners' survival as a race depended upon it).

Actually, even if that is the case, the 3rd sentence sounds like he changed back to the Flood.


To the thread creator, keep in mind that at the end of Halo 2, Spark says, They, [his creators, the Forerunners] and all additional sentient life in three radii of the galactic centre, died... as planned.
While a quote from Spark isn't exactly proof the Forerunners are dead, it's all we have to go by directly.

  • 06.16.2006 11:10 AM PDT
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tbh i cant actually believe people think there are more likely possibilities to teh human forunner link. Humans ARE reclaimers. Earth is speculated to be the ark, think of another famous ark..go on.. yeah what did it do?

I honestly believe that Earth is immune to the effects of the Halo's. Also, if Humans are not direct descendents of teh forunner, i wouldnt be surprised if the forunner just landed, gave up their tech, wanting to forget about the flood and stuff, and just interbred with the human populus (which would have been small at that time). By the events of Halo, the forunner DNA would have easily spread enough throughout the gene pool. and 343.. he was soooo talking about the forunner about teh races survival. How would the study of the flood help the flood to survive? he was blatently talking about the forunner, and why they made teh halo's.

  • 06.16.2006 11:22 AM PDT
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Could it be possible that the Flood's survival is dependent on the Halos? Supposedly, Halo's pulse does not kill anything that's within the Halo itself.

What's intresting is the Conversations from the Universe booklet. The Prophet of Supposition submits a letter to The Prophet of Truth speculating whether the Flood is a weapon and whether the Flood had sanctuary on Halo. I find the implication important.

Then again, the Forerunner would have depended on he Halos to survive as a species because the Halos contain the Flood, that is only if they were well along before the last oubreak.

I find it is overlooked, that not all the Forerunner died.

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Well, there is other proof that the humans are the Forerunners...

In Halo: CE (dont ask where, I cant remember) 343 GS says "Last time, you asked me if it were me doing this, would I activate this ring? After a considerable amount of time to think over this question, my answer has not changed. It is still yes."

Judging from this statement, I agree with another theorist friend of mine that the entire Haloverse is in a Time loop, however crazy some of you theorists may think it is.

And concerning the "survival as a race" statement. THE FLOOD IS NOT A RACE. The Flood is a parasite capable of ruling over every living organism simply by taping into its neural system and taking control of it.

The FORERUNNERS, however, were a race. Now, judging from the aformentioned statement on the Forerunners dying, how do we know there werent Forerunners that, in fact, feared death? What if they attempted to create their own sanctuary, which could be Earth?

Of course, all of this is just a theory, but believe me, I've thought this over.

  • 06.16.2006 11:37 AM PDT
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dang i need to start reading the whole forum

but your getting it now the flood did need to survive on halo to survive because they were cut off from what they eat (unless they eat whatever metal they built the structures from) but the point is the forerunner died from something we don't know about

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  • 06.16.2006 11:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: GDemon
YES! I remeber this! Good find. And I think that this is proof that we are forerunners. Spark saw that John was human and said that builders of halo (humans) are,surprisingly, alive. He is not talking about Flood. How Flood can construct Halo? They are to stupid.


No, they aren't. First, a quote from 343 GS:

"The Flood are already hard at work repairing your vessel. Its parasitic nature belies the Flood's intelligence."

Second: The Flood are smart. If you've read the books, or seen the Keyes blob, then you know that the Flood can take memories from their hosts, which is why they needed Keyes to pilot the Truth and Reconciliation after they repair it. That's why the Flood are dangerous. They can adapt, configure to their surroundings. They only need a host.

  • 06.16.2006 11:49 AM PDT

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my thought on this thread is this:
mc'sarmour is based on elite armour which is in turn based on forerunner armour. therefore 343 thinks chief is a forerunner because of his armour.
in h2 he doesn't say this to miranda or johnson, and chief is the only human it sees in h1

  • 06.16.2006 11:49 AM PDT

Let grunts Sleep!!!

Posted by: Dbozbrown
I am pretty sure he is talking about the flood...



He's talking about the flood.

  • 06.16.2006 11:51 AM PDT
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I'm going to through out my idea for the hell of it. When GS was saying that there survival as a species depended on it, I bet he was reffering to the Forerunner. Maybe they kept the Flood in isolation as a weapon to threaten some other species that is yet unencountered?

  • 06.16.2006 12:34 PM PDT

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