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Subject: Would halo 3 MM be better without rank?
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Halo CE didn't have any rank involved but it was still incredibly fun. People still play team training and team swat without visible rank. Don't get me wrong. The aspect of invisible rank to determine a fair match is still a novel idea, but do we really want cheaters ruining halo 3 the way they did halo 2?

  • 06.14.2006 4:36 PM PDT
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Bungie will never take down ranks because online services thrive off of a competive nature. If the game is still competitive, a person will play longer. Hell, I've been playing Halo 2 online a lot for 2+ years now.

  • 06.14.2006 4:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: ztunzed
Halo CE didn't have any rank involved but it was still incredibly fun. People still play team training and team swat without visible rank. Don't get me wrong. The aspect of invisible rank to determine a fair match is still a novel idea, but do we really want cheaters ruining halo 3 the way they did halo 2?

But there will be less competition, and you will probably play people that are either lower level than you, or someone who is much better

  • 06.14.2006 4:41 PM PDT

invisible ranks would be awesome.

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that's amazing considering it didn't come out til november of 2004. 2+ years? no chit?
i don't play halo 2 for rank. my new account is a level 30. who cares? i still play training more than anything else.
as for skirmish to be the "known" rank. have you seen the most popular lists? it's nowhere near slayer.

  • 06.14.2006 4:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: ztunzed
Halo CE didn't have any rank involved but it was still incredibly fun. People still play team training and team swat without visible rank. Don't get me wrong. The aspect of invisible rank to determine a fair match is still a novel idea, but do we really want cheaters ruining halo 3 the way they did halo 2?

But there will be less competition, and you will probably play people that are either lower level than you, or someone who is much better

that's what invisible ranks are. I get matched up better in training because i don't play with delevelers and boosters in training. i win/lose about 50/50. in slayer, i either play a team that has someone who isn't their rank because they deleveled, or someone who got boosted and shouldn't be that rank...

  • 06.14.2006 4:45 PM PDT
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Not unless you wana be killed every 5secs. without ranks people would either win really badly or lose really badly.

Ranks were but there so you can go up aginst people of your own skill so it would be a fair and close game. thing is with cheating no game is fair.

  • 06.14.2006 4:46 PM PDT
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I personally play halo 2 for rank, but thats just me, i take great pride in my high levels..

  • 06.14.2006 4:53 PM PDT
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would you be a worse player without that rank chibi?

  • 06.14.2006 5:10 PM PDT
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I made a thread just like this with the same concept of not showing rank. I think if Bungie has any brains, they will NOT SHOW RANK this time around. But the way the world works today, business becomes more important than satisfying gameplay, and Bungie doesn't look like they want to lose all those annoying adolescence children(ironically playing a rated M game) who slave away their parents credit cards to get xblive, just to brag about their rank- usually attained through cheating.<--thats a run on sentence, but you get the picture.

Bungie.....please make the last installment for the real gamers, not the business

  • 06.14.2006 5:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: XTS Platinum
Not unless you wana be killed every 5secs. without ranks people would either win really badly or lose really badly.

Ranks were but there so you can go up aginst people of your own skill so it would be a fair and close game. thing is with cheating no game is fair.



I totally agree. The goal of ranking is to make the game fun for players of all skill levels. Nobody wants to sit there and get their butts handed to them every time. Concurrently, a game without a challenge where you dominate every match isn't much fun either (Well, unless your middle name is game-genie).

  • 06.14.2006 5:38 PM PDT

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I think ranks are fun to have.

Cheaters are everywhere. Ranks do not cause cheaters, dishonesty does.

  • 06.14.2006 5:44 PM PDT
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My gametag is not sparda34b, it was an error, gamertag is Sparda3b.

No ranks prove your skill only people who hate not looking good don't want ranks.

  • 06.14.2006 5:52 PM PDT
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okay i'm gonna give it to you nice and slow. all the gametypes currently in halo ARE ranked. Team Training, Team Actionsack, Multi-team, Rumble Training. The rank is only invisible. The reason that they are not leveled out like they should be is because those are not as focused as they should be. many people who like slayer, don't like objectives and vice-versa, so they don't play them often. so, in training games you end up with 30s against ones. Let's no games were ranked, people would still play slayer the most. after a while the ranks would be the same. you would be a 30, you would play 30s, you just wouldn't see that you were a 30. I mean, was the first week of hardcore a fair week? ones were matched up with 40s then, but it worked itself out because it was a wanted playlist. just because it has no rank, doesn't mean it's doomed to fail. look at swat, it's number two by a very small margin. it could take number one very soon.

  • 06.14.2006 6:04 PM PDT
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sparda3b, i'm a 30. may not be the best, but nothing to be embarrassed about. but i don't care about my rank because a game is supposed to be fun...

  • 06.14.2006 6:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Demonic Felony
Hell, I've been playing Halo 2 online a lot for 2+ years now.


Really? Were you beta tester?
Halo 2 only came out 1 year and 7 months ago.

  • 06.14.2006 6:35 PM PDT

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Some people are just not getting the point. They are not talking about actually getting rid of the rank but making it not visible. There would be not much or no motivation for a modder or standbyer to do those things. There would be much less modding and standbying. im not saying that there would be none of this, but i'm almost sure that it would severely reduce the amount of them (at least in matchmaking). Many gametypes (ex. Team Swat and the original Team Snipers) are ranked even though you can't see them. Proof: How did that magical number you call a level appear over night next to your name under Team Snipers.

[Edited on 6/14/2006]

  • 06.14.2006 6:42 PM PDT
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take away ranks its stupid i go in TS and i get cheated like every time it ruins the game id be a 34 by now if it werent for cheaters

  • 06.14.2006 6:44 PM PDT

Posted by: halo and pok3mon
I personally play halo 2 for rank, but thats just me, i take great pride in my high levels..


What high levels?

  • 06.14.2006 7:19 PM PDT
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YES!!!!!!! GET RID OF RANK AND YOU GET RID OF MOST CHEATERS!!!!

  • 06.14.2006 7:23 PM PDT
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No... don't get rid of the ranks. I liked the ranks.
It's prolly not going to be as bad as Halo 2 was because from what I've heard, Bungie has better tech and can detect cheaters and whatnot better and has a better chance of preventing them from ruining the rank system completly again.
If they wanted to, at any time, they could drop the whole ranking system entirly if anything like that happened.
Keep the ranks.
If ranks were invisible, there would be no point. That wouldn't stop the cheating.

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