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  • Poll [16 votes]: If bungie allowed Halo1 on xbox live would you play it?
Subject: Halo1 for xbox live
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Poll: If bungie allowed Halo1 on xbox live would you play it?  [closed]
Yes I would:  75%
(12 Votes)
No I wouldn't ever:  25%
(4 Votes)
Total Votes: 16

I Believe bungie should create an update for xbox live so that you can play halo1 on xbox live. If they did this, i'm sure a lot more people would play it and Halo1 on xbc or on the computer is such a pain to setup.

  • 06.14.2006 5:17 PM PDT
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Play Halo for PC or XBC. It's not going to ever happen.

  • 06.14.2006 6:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloPlaya4Eva
Play Halo for PC or XBC. It's not going to ever happen.


no.

[Edited on 6/14/2006]

  • 06.14.2006 8:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloPlaya4Eva
Play Halo for PC or XBC. It's not going to ever happen.


I've played Halo PC, and it just isn't the same. Bungie keeps saying they don't want to rehash an old game....and yet here they are converting Halo 2 to the PC. I really wish they would get their story straight. They could include it as a bonus with Halo 3. Some sequals have the full version of the original included as a bonus.

What I find really sad is that the Halo 2 PC people don't have to deal with this awful matchmaking system. They get dedicated servers and a server browser. I've been asking for that since Halo 2 shipped. Why do they get it?

  • 06.15.2006 5:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
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What I find really sad is that the Halo 2 PC people don't have to deal with this awful matchmaking system. They get dedicated servers and a server browser. I've been asking for that since Halo 2 shipped. Why do they get it?

Probably because PC gamers and console gamers are two very different breeds of gamers. Because of that, the way that the two systems connect and find their games online are also quite different.

Dedicated servers, user-hosted servers and browsing those servers became online PC standards not long after people first started Internet gaming.

Console gamers (that do not PC game) tend to use a console for a reason. They want a streamlined, simple, and non-technical way to get into a game quickly and not have to browse or scroll through menus, selecting options and settings. They want to press as few buttons as possible and get into a game as quickly as possible.

That's one of the reasons that online console gaming is only now becoming possible. Prior to XBL, online console gaming was possible, but it wasn't widely accepted or popular. The main complaint with most consolers was that, "if I wanted to scroll through menus, check boxes and type in options, I would have gotten a PC!"

That is the purpose (and the reason for the success) of XBL, Halo 2 MatchMaking, and the recent additions of the XBL-360 system such as TrueSkill. They are meant to be a smoother and less complex experience. People can call it "dumbed down" if they want, but since the point is to get online and play a game, we weren't talking about something that should be too complex.

So, if you were looking for or expecting a PC game experience in a console-based game (which only really has been gaming seriously online for a few years), you were setting yourself up for a disappointment.


All good arguments. But, Need for Speed and other XBL games let you pick what you want to play, and they are on consoles too. I can choose the track I want to play on and other settings, THEN it matches me with others with the same interests.

Not having any choice, or very little in what you play is very frustrating. Look around on these boards. You could probably get rid of 80% of the complaints if people just had more choice in what they played. They don't like this map, or these weapons, or that game type. Almost all the complaints are from not having control, or an indirect consequence of not having any control. Take me for example. I was really excited about the THC playlist when it first came out because my playstyle preference is playing with BR starts and no radar. This is probably just because I was a Halo CE fanatic (pistol whore as you like to call us:o) and really like mid-range combat. Only problem is, they mixed the objective games in with the team slayer games. All I want is to play team slayer games. For my objective games fix, I prefer a much large game like BTB. With a system like matchmaking, you can try to give the majority of people what they want. But, even then it's still not perfect. If you were to split THC today, I would probably still end up playing on maps I didn't like. So, you can never satisfy people 100% using the matchmaking system. There is always going to be a map/setting/game that they don't like.

I understand that Halo 2 was kind of a test bed for a possible new direction for online gaming formats. But, other games don't seem to be taking the bait. I'm not blind to the point that I know some people probably really like this formula. But other don't. Why not have a mix of both matchmaking and server browser or the type of system I gave NFS as an example of? I don't have every XBL title that has come out, but out of the games I do have, not one uses this system.

I also understand the problem with dedicated servers. I'm not asking for that. Although I would ask that Bungie looked into trying to at least match people from the same region. We've all seen the threads complaining about players from Europe having to play on American hosts. I don't blame them. That would be frustrating. I know if I play early in the morning often times I get stuck on a European host. All that would be required is for the system to ask where you live. You could lie, but that would only hurt yourself.

When Halo 2 came out I admit I really didn't like it. In retrospect, it wasn't the game, it was from being forced to play nothing but SMG starts in EVERY game. With BR starts it's a much different animal. It has more of a Halo CE feel to it, which is what I was looking for. I didn't buy Halo 2 because I wanted it to feel like Unreal or some other game. I bought it from my love of Halo CE. It "spoke" to me in a way no other game has before or since. And, I'm also not blind to the fact that others don't like BR starts. People are so different, and I just don't think this matchmaking system takes that into account enough. Even if you had 100 playlists, there would still be people left out.

I guess my question to you is, are you even looking into using a different system? Have you asked your users what they would want? There are plenty of good examples of good systems out there on consoles, you just have to take a look at them. And PLEASE don't use population as an excuse. This game is almost as popular now as it was when it first came out. Even at three in the morning I never have a problem finding a game. And, I expect Halo 3 to be an even bigger success.

  • 06.15.2006 10:55 AM PDT