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Subject: Do you consider Halo Wars a Halo game?

If it were my choice it wouldn't be i never liked it very much but technically it has to be >.<

  • 07.16.2012 12:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: Traffic Coned
"Two men enter. The better man leaves. The lesser man is respawning. And that's Halo."
Luke Smith

Therefore since someone gets an advantage from picking characters halo wars isn't a halo game.

If you know what you're doing, you can counter any character.

OT: yes, I consider it a halo game. It's fun, it has that halo sense of humor and the environments and units felt like they could fit in any halo game. The plot was a little disappointing, though.

  • 07.16.2012 2:10 AM PDT
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Hell no. I don't.

It's definitely Halo but it's not a Halo game. A Halo game is far more versatile.

  • 07.16.2012 2:52 AM PDT

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I sure as hell do. It's got a great storyline, and actually adds a lot to the overall franchise. In fact, I'd consider it one of the better Halo games post-OT.

  • 07.16.2012 5:01 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Halo Wars reminds me more of Halo 4 and Halo:CEA.

But yes, it's a halo game. Much like the Halo books and the difference in interpretation between someone like Nylund and Traviss.

  • 07.16.2012 5:05 AM PDT
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Halo multiplayer sucks!

Based on campaigns

Halo 2 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo 3 > Reach/CE tied

No. I despise it

  • 07.16.2012 5:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: Water Beetle
No. I despise it


So? Just because you don't like it, that doesn't give you the authority to denounce it as a Halo title because IT IS A CANONICAL PART OF THE UNIVERSE.

A lot of you are talking about gameplay, you do know what generally defines the canon of the Halo universe right? It's the story. The story is what matters, gameplay is not canon, and Wars has got one of the best stories in the Halo series.


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Posted by: ajw34307
It's a Halo game and anyone who denies this is only kidding themselves. It's not up to the likes of you to decide what is and isn't canon, both Bungie and 343i recognise it as such - therefore its canon. No idea why you wouldn't call it a Halo game, it has a better story than both Halo 3 and Reach.


It's even more important when you consider that HaloWars is technically the reason Halo 4's story exists as it does, since Wars introduced the Shield World.


Ghosts of Onyx would like to have a word with you...


I think what Roberto is trying to get at is that Wars brought the concept of a Shield World from the novels and into the games, marking the first time that we saw the games and novels interweave their established fiction. There was never any mention of Shield Worlds in the games, Wars brought that concept into the games - which frankly makes for a much better and well-rounded universe overall.

  • 07.16.2012 10:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Traffic Coned
"Two men enter. The better man leaves. The lesser man is respawning. And that's Halo."
[Halo: According to] Luke Smith


Fixed that for you. Just because that's what Luke Smith thinks Halo is doesn't mean that's what Halo is. Plus that's only relevant to Halo Matchmaking, and is also applicable to any other online Multiplayer.

  • 07.16.2012 11:27 AM PDT


Posted by: jack0fhearts
Posted by: Traffic Coned
"Two men enter. The better man leaves. The lesser man is respawning. And that's Halo."
[Halo: According to] Luke Smith


Fixed that for you. Just because that's what Luke Smith thinks Halo is doesn't mean that's what Halo is. Plus that's only relevant to Halo Matchmaking, and is also applicable to any other online Multiplayer.

Not halo wars, reach, COD, and many other online multiplayer games where you get advantages from picking characters to getting game changing abilites from leveling up.

  • 07.16.2012 4:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: AlexZander
I expected so much more from it, considering Bungie's history with Myth, and Myth II.


Bungie didn't make Halo Wars. Ensemble did before running out of money.

OT: As far as canon goes no I don't.

  • 07.16.2012 6:26 PM PDT

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Pretty great game and i dont understand the logic for saying that it is not a Halo game. I bought it years ago and will continue to play it and never get rid of it. More DLC would've been nice though.

  • 07.16.2012 6:29 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: Traffic Coned
Not halo wars, reach, COD, and many other online multiplayer games where you get advantages from picking characters to getting game changing abilites from leveling up.


Right, right... Because Halo Reach totally gives a huge advantage with the loadouts. (As I assume you were ripping on.)

Is the irony lost on you at all that your quote from Luke Smith was in a ViDoc for Halo Reach, and was discussing their work on Halo Reach Mutliplayer?

See, Halo Wars is an RTS game. As with all other RTS games, the "leader" or faction has certain powers and abilities to promote diversity and a more dynamic gameplay. Halo Wars is a Halo RTS, so that mechanic would have to still be there, or else the game would be horribly bland. Yet it's still Halo because it has all the proper Halo aesthetics (visual and audio.) FPS Multiplayer mechanics and ideals would not register well onto an RTS or an RPG, which if there was ever a Halo RPG game it would also be Halo.

The Gameplay contributes, but doesn't define the game's canonical place.

[Edited on 07.16.2012 7:36 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2012 7:36 PM PDT

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You can't deny it as canon because it is canon. And I'm glad it is too. I loved Halo Wars.

  • 07.16.2012 9:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: chickenlittle
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I think the idea that it isn't a Halo game is foolish. It's a Halo game. No doubt about it. They derped by adding in the flood and making the Covenant seem weak (needing the Forerunner fleet to beat Humanity and all), but aside from that, it was a good story, decently told, and the gameplay wasn't too bad for a console RTS.

Halo Wars was no worse than, say, Reach or Halo 3.

  • 07.16.2012 10:41 PM PDT

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Yes.

  • 07.16.2012 11:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Traffic Coned

Posted by: jack0fhearts
Posted by: Traffic Coned
"Two men enter. The better man leaves. The lesser man is respawning. And that's Halo."
[Halo: According to] Luke Smith


Fixed that for you. Just because that's what Luke Smith thinks Halo is doesn't mean that's what Halo is. Plus that's only relevant to Halo Matchmaking, and is also applicable to any other online Multiplayer.

Not halo wars, reach, COD, and many other online multiplayer games where you get advantages from picking characters to getting game changing abilites from leveling up.


wow you have no idea what your talking about, Most rts games have factions that each have special abilities and unique units.

You might want to read up on what an rts game is and comprises of before responding again in this thread.



[Edited on 07.17.2012 12:04 AM PDT]

  • 07.17.2012 12:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: Traffic Coned
"Two men enter. The better man leaves. The lesser man is respawning. And that's Halo."
Luke Smith

Therefore since someone gets an advantage from picking characters halo wars isn't a halo game.

Your post is completely irrelevant for a 2 reasons:

1) Halo Wars' multiplayer has nothing to do with the campaign and so, like with all previous Halo games, multiplayer isn't considered canon.

2) You don't respawn in Halo Wars. So using that quote is pretty terrible.

  • 07.17.2012 12:30 AM PDT
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Well there are a number problems I have with it canon-wise, but I still consider it a Halo game. Basically I categorise the games into three categories so far. There's the Halo Trilogy (created by Bungie), the upcoming Reclaimer Trilogy and then there is Halo Wars on its own. Halo Reach and ODST are in a way part of the Halo Trilogy, but not quite.

  • 07.17.2012 12:31 AM PDT

I never said I did not like it. Nor did I say it wasn't Halo due to it never being a first-person-shooter. I'm just stating my opinion that if directly not made by 343 or BUNGiE, to me it is not a Halo game. I will say it has amazing visuals for the cutscenes. As well as an excellent approach to making a RTS game. I honestly just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me though. Guess not...

  • 07.19.2012 10:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: AlexZander
I just hate how so cartoonish and shallow it was.


Couldn't have said it better myself. It was like watching CGI HD version of Power Rangers.

Don't get me wrong, the game was fun. And yes, the game should have been better, there are plenty of Console RTS games that play brilliantly.

Overall, the attention to the small details that Bungie has so carefully added into their games is frankly, disgusting.

The story is horrible.

The Covenant makes me want to puke, etc.

Whatever, its still a fun game. I consider it a Halo game, just not one I really enjoy.

  • 07.19.2012 11:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: AlexZander
I just hate how so cartoonish and shallow it was.




As if that isn't exactly what halo 3 was?


This thread is stupid and pointless.

  • 07.19.2012 11:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

As if that isn't exactly what halo 3 was?


Yeah....

I'm just gonna back out of this thread slowly.

  • 07.19.2012 11:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101

As if that isn't exactly what halo 3 was?


Yeah....

I'm just gonna back out of this thread slowly.




You mustn't have the brain capacity to understand what i was getting at.

halo 3's final graphics were cartoony compared to around the time of the beta and the plot suffered massively after they had a change in development. Anybody that actually paid attention to how halo 3 was being developed saw a difference between what they were saying the product was and the final product.

The IRIS campaign set the bar too high and halo 3 wasn't able to reach it.

  • 07.19.2012 11:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Teagg
I'm sorry, but it actually is a Halo game. Just because someone else made it doesn't mean it's not part of the franchise.

Indeed. As for all the people who don't consider it a Halo game because they don't like it, it's still a Halo game.

  • 07.19.2012 1:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Traffic Coned
"Two men enter. The better man leaves. The lesser man is respawning. And that's Halo."
Luke Smith

Therefore since someone gets an advantage from picking characters halo wars isn't a halo game.


Stupidest thing said today.
Yes, it's a halo game.
It doesn't matter what you argue with, it's canon, therefore accepted FACT that it's a halo game.

  • 07.19.2012 2:34 PM PDT