Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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Subject: WHY is Halo PC so much worse than Xbox?
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If this further controversy is due to my post, then I'll just have to laugh. I was stating my preference. No need to defend the Xbox version anymore. No more fighting; it's stupid, and it doesn't get anybody anywhere. Halo, as a game, rules. Leave it at that, please.

[Edited on 10/4/2004 4:13:51 PM]

  • 10.04.2004 4:08 PM PDT
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halo is just one of those games that really can only be played to the maximum extent on a console.

  • 10.04.2004 4:28 PM PDT
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I have both versions, the xbox version (for single player and lan parties), and the pc version (for online games and halo ce) Both versions are good

I hope they release halo 2 pc too... in the future

  • 10.04.2004 4:46 PM PDT
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system link? what's the point if you have the internet? and what do you think a LAN is then?
why can it "only be played to it's maximum extent on a console"?

it helps if you explain your opinions a little more than statement.

and no, the new maps aren't "crap". some of my favourite maps are of the newer ones. to think otherwise is to sound purist. don't be afraid of trying new things.

  • 10.04.2004 9:55 PM PDT
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I think the sentence "Halo rox in general" sums it all up, i own a -blam!- ass pc and my xbox is stuffing up on me (coulda gotten a new one but they all sold out yesterday, EVERYWHERE!). I only got a pc last year aswel! I used to play online with tons of people and i love that about games like halo on pc, SO MANY PLAYERS=SO MUCH FUN! But have any of you computer users ever had 3 xboxes hooked up around a single house, different rooms for different teams (i know there is only 2 but the third had one of each on it, funny as!) using walkie talkies to communicate, while yelling from room to room also? I THINK NOT! Its fun basicly, the friends is what its about to me and multiplayer is just more fun when you sitting next to each other!

Anyway i've played both and i think they both good but when you dont have a great computer and companies make it difficult for you to play online (-blam!- STEAM ENGINE IS BETTER MY FOOT!) or just single player cause you need graphics that allow you to get the largest screen quality (I always play at 800xwhatever anyway cause my comp=crap). Its only a game anyway, although i do own the toys aswel but i just wanna say (ahem) MORE STUFF TO AUSTRALIA YOU MONGRELS! IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND QUALITY GOODS WHEN AMERICA DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU! i wanted more!

Back on topic... they both good dont start to sound like brainless PS2 users where everything labeled sony is holy and all else is crap, i was once there, in the long ago, before HALO our current topic changed my life. So in short...

Halo is good dont destroy its magical experience by acting like a PS2 user treat in gently be good to it and it shall be good to you....

now hand me that controller i got a CTF to win! YARRRRR!

  • 10.04.2004 11:34 PM PDT
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Just some advice skippy, you have to be careful with your words in forums. In the original thread you said "People who think Halo xbox is better think so because their PC is not good enough to run Halo."
Do you see what you did there? You're pre-suming. You've probably based your pre-sumptions on fact. There are a lot of people who will think like that, however not all of them.
Now this opened up a can of worms. Straight away I thought "how dare you say that". Now I let it lie although I think I referred to it in my post. But not everybody will let it lie. Hell there are probably people out there who even though they prefer the PC version might have a dig at you simply because you pre-sumed. In a forum and especially if your thread starting you need to be careful what you say.
Anyway just a bit of advice skippy, I thought I'd do my good turn for the day whilst waiting for the leaked Zanzibar vid to download. Roll on 9th October, hopefully it should be out by then. What servers do you play on?

  • 10.05.2004 12:33 PM PDT
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RIGHT! ITS MY TIME TO TALK! I'm skippy's sister and i think all u i-want-to-marry-my-xbox freaks should get a life. Who's using the family brain cell(i love blackadder)? It is so obvious that halo looks soooooooooooooo much better on pc than halo, u just can't see it through u're xbox goggles. look, i have played both. can u download extra maps on xbox? i want to know. have u seen the halo 2 demo thing? well, the place on that is a map someone has made and we downloaded it. it looks amazing. anyways, i think Gamecube is the best anyways and i think all ps2 owners should be shot. and cats.

Jimladen

p.s. Use u're eyes and the facts! PC IS BETTER! OK?!

[Edited on 10/5/2004 2:31:08 PM]

  • 10.05.2004 2:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Red_Breast
Just some advice skippy, you have to be careful with your words in forums. In the original thread you said "People who think Halo xbox is better think so because their PC is not good enough to run Halo."
Do you see what you did there? You're pre-suming. You've probably based your pre-sumptions on fact. There are a lot of people who will think like that, however not all of them.
Now this opened up a can of worms. Straight away I thought "how dare you say that". Now I let it lie although I think I referred to it in my post. But not everybody will let it lie. Hell there are probably people out there who even though they prefer the PC version might have a dig at you simply because you pre-sumed. In a forum and especially if your thread starting you need to be careful what you say.
Anyway just a bit of advice skippy, I thought I'd do my good turn for the day whilst waiting for the leaked Zanzibar vid to download. Roll on 9th October, hopefully it should be out by then. What servers do you play on?


He doesn't have to be careful here. Lets look at the fact.

1. This is a Halo PC forum
2. This is not a Halo Xbox forum
3. Halo Xbox people who are flaming and trolling in the Halo PC forum are obviously stupid beyond reason for being in the Halo PC forum.

The fact that Skippy is in the right forum but getting flamed by Xbox people is so funny they should rename this forum "The 2nd Halo Xbox forum" instead of the PC forum.

  • 10.05.2004 2:53 PM PDT
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anytime any place Ekul1022 whatever that stands for... probably an ass pirate if i had to guess

  • 10.05.2004 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: DEATHBONE
anytime any place Ekul1022 whatever that stands for... probably an ass pirate if i had to guess


Sorry I don't talk to narrow minded retards like you. No comments.

  • 10.05.2004 3:39 PM PDT
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your certainly the most intelligent fellow i've ever come across. ass pounder

  • 10.05.2004 3:43 PM PDT
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people who think that halo runs better on xbox are just a bunch of console f***ers, as a matter of fact...I dont if this is exactly true but I heard that the Xbox video card isnt good at showing certain textures like glass, so next time you play xbox go in a warthog and see if theres a windshield there or not....

But halo on computer is awsome if you have decent parts...if your computer is s**t then dont say that halo on the computer sucks..you and your computer sucks, thats all you fricken console n**b.

  • 10.05.2004 9:07 PM PDT
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Umm halo pc isn't vehicular based, it has new weapons and new vehicles. Not just new vehicles. Sure ther are more out door maos, but that's because Halo for x box only has two good out door maps.

  • 10.05.2004 9:29 PM PDT
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Halo for PC is so much better, the graphics are better, it has more weapons (which rock), it has more vehicles in Multiplayer, and you can communicate with the other players better.


If the reason that you like HALO for XBOX better is because you like the control stick better, just buy a wireless one that you can plug into the USB of your PC. The mouse is so much better becuase you can be everywhere you want and be facing any diretion you want instantly.

PC playing is for HArdcore gamers only.

  • 10.05.2004 9:50 PM PDT
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Ekul, sorry can't remember number, being careful about what you say in the way I was talking about matters, not only here, or another forum, but in life. Full stop. I do work where it matters what I say to my clients to the nth. Details have to be precise otherwise I'd have a load of unhappy bunnys on my case.
If you look at my first post I think I mention I don't post much. It's not only Bungie.net but just about every FPS game forum. This thread has turned into PC vs XBoX because of what I was saying about what skippy had done. Pre-suming and generalization. It may be easy to skim the thread and think "well it seems as though all XBoXers hate PC and all PCers hate XBoXers." But read it all. It's not the case. There are plenty of people who like both versions, me included-can't wait for the H2 team's maps of New M and Zanzi.
In my original post I merely pointed out I think both versions should be tried as you can then get a feeling for Bungie's original vision of the game on the target hardware. In my experience of gaming, I'm 37 now and got into games when I was about 13, I've come to understand how a developer plays up to the target hardware, controller included, and it's always seems to me that a game plays better on the system it was made for. It doesn't matter if the system it's ported to is more powerful. This even applies with console to console ports. I've tried some PS2 games that play better on PS2 than XBoX. It's something to do with a systems architecture. They all vary and we're not just talking CPU and RAM size. That's not architecture. And it's this that devs play up to. It's more noticeable with PS2 to XBoX or PS2 to PC. Devs had trouble with PS2's architecture to begin with. It was so...different.
But like I said at the end of my post. That's me. If you prefer the PC version then go for it. Simple as that. When this Halo 2 mod comes out I'll be firing Halo CE up again. Looking forward to it.

  • 10.06.2004 9:43 AM PDT
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he ain't heavy. he's my brother

  • 10.06.2004 1:13 PM PDT
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You say Halo 2 will come out a few months after it does on XBox, lol. Ya right. It took how many YEARS for the first Halo to come out on PC. You thinking Halo 2 will be out for PC a few months after it comes out on XBox is a joke. Also Bungie hasn't even said a thing about Halo 2 PC so who knows how long it will be before it comes out on PC, 1 year, 2 years 5 years....

HALO XBOX RULES!!!!

[Edited on 10/6/2004 2:10:26 PM]

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Posted by: NimbleJack
You say Halo 2 will come out a few months after it does on XBox, lol. Ya right. It took how many YEARS for the first Halo to come out on PC. You thinking Halo 2 will be out for PC a few months after it comes out on XBox is a joke. Also Bungie hasn't even said a thing about Halo 2 PC so who knows how long it will be before it comes out on PC, 1 year, 2 years 5 years....

HALO XBOX RULES!!!!


LOL 5 years? it takes less than 5 years to make a game from scratch, including writting a new graphics engine, like Half-Life 2. Halo2 for Pc will likely come out about a year after Halo2 xbox, LIKE HALO 1 it didn't take "years" to come out on PC. Check your sources. By the way, notice how quickly Splinter Cell came out on PC? and how SC2 came out at the same time on Pc as xbox? and how SC3 is meant to come out on PC before xbox? Console hugger.

  • 10.06.2004 2:45 PM PDT
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I have Halo for the PC and I love it. I have a intel celeron procesor with 512 meg of RAM and a G - Force 218 meg video card. Road Runner over a wireless g card and it works fine. I put everything on maximum and its all good. Only occasionally do i have to swich servers because one is slow. I have played the XBox verson and it blows. To be able to turn arround fast is extremely hard while still being able to make precise movements to snipe.

  • 10.06.2004 3:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jimladen
RIGHT! ITS MY TIME TO TALK! I'm skippy's sister and i think all u i-want-to-marry-my-xbox freaks should get a life. Who's using the family brain cell(i love blackadder)? It is so obvious that halo looks soooooooooooooo much better on pc than halo, u just can't see it through u're xbox goggles. look, i have played both. can u download extra maps on xbox? i want to know. have u seen the halo 2 demo thing? well, the place on that is a map someone has made and we downloaded it. it looks amazing. anyways, i think Gamecube is the best anyways and i think all ps2 owners should be shot. and cats.

Jimladen

p.s. Use u're eyes and the facts! PC IS BETTER! OK?!


I agree 90%.
The X-Box goggle idea is correct, its just how you look at things, but you can't just prejudge things. Halo PC does look better (it's a matter of fact, your TV SUCKS when put up against a monitor). Try reading these words on a TV I've tried...YOU CANT its like looking at the bottom line on the vision test...with glases that give you a headache.

And...PS2 is good...just not as good as computer.

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  • 10.06.2004 3:42 PM PDT
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get bent... pc got a 1.5 version, so thats the weopons, and maps.... which will be fixed on livein the 2nd version. and i would rather a xbox joy pad over a key board any d ay and ive been playing and upgrading pcs just as long as ive played consoles. in my oppinion its better to have games on machines that dont need to uptdated every 3 months just so i can play the latest games... but thats just my oppinion... oh and the whole turn around fast thing... takes away from the realism.... and if they cant do it u cant do it so its all fair and fun


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  • 10.06.2004 3:44 PM PDT
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I believe you are wrong there...a real person can turn arround fast as well as make minute movements. It's not realistic to only be able to turn in a certain range of speeds.

[Edited on 10/6/2004 3:50:24 PM]

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I personaly think the Xbox version is better than the PC version. And is how Halo was truly meant to play. It wasnt as great on the PC because i honestly think there are better PC FPS out there. And thats because they were designed for that platform with only it in mind. I would also like to add that i think porting over to PC was a huge mistake, they should of kept it Xbox only like they said they were gonna. Anyways here are my reasons for liking the Xbox version more...

1: It was far more revolutionary especialy as far as Console FPS go. On the PC some of the things had allready been done before and the impact it had on the PC world wasnt as big as it was in the Console world....IMO. The biggest thing they brought to Consoles was LAN, i cant tell you how awesome it was to finaly get to play with more than 4 people in a game. Not only that but you could put two teams on two seperate TVs. They mastered the whole CO-OP part of the game and made it essential to modern FPSs.
Vehicles. while they were in other FPS before Halo, they werent on consoles, at least not in any of the ones i played. they also made them simple and very effective, but not without a weakness. I can go on and on, but really it was far more revolutionary for the Console Vs the PC.

2: Graphics: They dont look better to me hardly at all. The only real difference i noticed was the wind sheild on the warthog was a little bit more shiny..big whoop. And to get the graphics to its max you would have to shell out way more money than you would have to for an Xbox.

3: I feel as tho Halo controls better on the xbox, once again this was its original element and puting it onto a PC made it feel very awkward. I played it at a LAN party a few times and i couldnt remember all the buttons (i didnt really have time to reset them because my buds were yelling at me to hurry up). And the whole thing about not having enough buttons on a console controler is a joke. Unlike a lot of people who complain about console controllers, i have skill and am able to play FPS on any platform with some getting used to the game (cuz each game is different). It works fine for me and i feel that i could keep up with any PC gamer using my Xbox controler if they could mix.

4: Extra maps, i honestly could care less about them, because by the time the PC version came out I was playing other games and occasionaly setup a LAN party with my buds for Halo. We would play for literaly 10 hours or more on those days and we dont get tired of the maps. While the extra ones would be cool to have they dont warrant the extra money it costs for me to buy it.

5: Multiplayer. I honestly like playing team games on some big TVs over a LAN connection better on the Xbox than having to link up a bunch of PCs. trying to find a decent server online, that can be a pain, most servers i joined i had issues with lag, and its not me, my connection is great. Plus if you have some buddys who dont have a PC or are poor and cant afford the game/PC it takes to play it, they can allways use a controller and jump on the TV and whoop some butt with you.

6: I got to play hundreds of multiplayer matches and beat the game several times LONG before the PC version came out....so take that !

Anyways those are just my thoughts. my PC is good enough to run the games i like, so thats all i care about. And would also like to note that i hope they dont release Halo 2 for PC, it would just tarnish its legacy (by taking it out of its element). And maybe rather than shelling out a little dough for that extra stick of RAM, maybe you'll buy a Xbox instead... : )

  • 10.06.2004 7:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: NimbleJack
You say Halo 2 will come out a few months after it does on XBox, lol. Ya right. It took how many YEARS for the first Halo to come out on PC. You thinking Halo 2 will be out for PC a few months after it comes out on XBox is a joke. Also Bungie hasn't even said a thing about Halo 2 PC so who knows how long it will be before it comes out on PC, 1 year, 2 years 5 years....


Actually your facts are entire fiction. It took Halo only 9 months to be ported on the PC by Gearbox Software. It took Microsoft years to decided to put it on the PC or not. Regardless whether Halo is good on PC or Xbox is your opinion and whatever the gaming community likes.

Posted by: NimbleJack
HALO XBOX RULES!!!!


Cool! My Halo PC also Rules too. The fact that the Xbox's famous number game on the PC is also taking it to new fame height. You should be proud of that, not against Halo's Fame. To say Halo PC sucks is a slap in the face for every Halo fan including both Xbox and PC. And to say Halo Xbox sucks is also a slap to every Halo fan since both games have the same fun.

Posted by: ChuaThingy
I personaly think the Xbox version is better than the PC version. And is how Halo was truly meant to play. It wasnt as great on the PC because i honestly think there are better PC FPS out there. And thats because they were designed for that platform with only it in mind.


Thats what the word "port" means. Transfering the game into another system.

Posted by: ChuaThingy
I would also like to add that i think porting over to PC was a huge mistake, they should of kept it Xbox only like they said they were gonna...


Regardless whether you don't want Halo on the PC or not isn't really Microsoft's concern. The fact that the game existed on the PC, Bungie/Microsoft decision to release the game or cancel would have no impact on the PC community at all since there is several high class games like Doom 3 and Half Life 2 existing already.


Posted by: ChuaThingy
And would also like to note that i hope they dont release Halo 2 for PC, it would just tarnish its legacy (by taking it out of its element). And maybe rather than shelling out a little dough for that extra stick of RAM, maybe you'll buy a Xbox instead... : )


If you're worrying about Halo 2 coming to PC and saying it will tarnish its legacy, forgive me but you have a mental problem. If the game comes out, will it kill you? Will it cause you great pain? Will it make you cry like a baby? That is up to Microsoft's decision to ask Bungie to get the game on PC or not. The one thing that you should be worrying about is enjoying Halo 2 on November 9 and don't care if it comes to PC. If it comes to PC, then you get a more bigger community to talk and brag with and maybe join in the fight like Xbox/PC community against PS2.

[Edited on 10/6/2004 11:07:25 PM]

  • 10.06.2004 10:42 PM PDT
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i still think Halo PC is way better because of Halo CE, duh!!!! free maps, and you can also easily mod the game. i run the game on a 64mb GeForce graphics card, but im not complainin' about graphics and what not! i can still totally pwn people in New Mombasa Classic, even though my graphics card sucks monkey balls! and the PC version made Halo better with new weapons and the rocket warthog, but i really wish they left the stupid banshee out of multiplayer, it really unbalances the game. so actually, come to think of it i think both xbox and PC versions of Halo are awesome in their own ways, neither is really better than the other, Halo is fun to play on both the console and PC! dont you agree?

[Edited on 10/7/2004 12:41:14 AM]

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