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Subject: Forerunner books as good as Nylund's work?

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  • 07.25.2012 3:52 PM PDT

They're not as good as Nylund. Cryptum was good though. It established like-able characters although the first third was a sluggish. Primordium was 75% of nothing. The last quarter gets interesting but doesn't make up for it.

  • 07.25.2012 5:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: nemesishunter7
They're not as good as Nylund. Cryptum was good though. It established like-able characters although the first third was a sluggish. Primordium was 75% of nothing. The last quarter gets interesting but doesn't make up for it.


Yeah, I'm not liking how it's just dragging on with them trekking across the ring. I think I just got past the part where *SPOILERS*



They find a Gravemind in that town on the water





*END SPOILERS*


It gets better right? Cryptum had me drawn in pretty much from the get-go.

  • 07.25.2012 5:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: nemesishunter7
They're not as good as Nylund. Cryptum was good though. It established like-able characters although the first third was a sluggish. Primordium was 75% of nothing. The last quarter gets interesting but doesn't make up for it.


Yeah, I'm not liking how it's just dragging on with them trekking across the ring. I think I just got past the part where *SPOILERS*



They find a Gravemind in that town on the water





*END SPOILERS*


It gets better right? Cryptum had me drawn in pretty much from the get-go.

It gets better around page 300.

[Edited on 07.25.2012 5:45 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2012 5:44 PM PDT

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I like the Forerunner novels, but I seemed to get through Nylund's novels much easier. I stopped in the middle of reading Cryptum -- I got bored. Then, I finally finished the book a bit later. I got Primordium when it first came out, eventually I stopped reading that too after getting bored with all the trekking and still have yet to finish it. I never had that problem with Nylund's novels, though.

Also -- maybe I'm just stupid -- but it's hard to grasp all that's going on in the Forerunner novels. There's such a wealth of lore and information -- which isn't a bad thing -- but for my tiny brain it tends to get a bit mind boggling trying to connect the dots and remember every piece of precious information.

[Edited on 07.25.2012 7:05 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2012 5:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: nemesishunter7
They're not as good as Nylund. Cryptum was good though. It established like-able characters although the first third was a sluggish. Primordium was 75% of nothing. The last quarter gets interesting but doesn't make up for it.


Yeah, I'm not liking how it's just dragging on with them trekking across the ring. I think I just got past the part where *SPOILERS*



They find a Gravemind in that town on the water





*END SPOILERS*


It gets better right? Cryptum had me drawn in pretty much from the get-go.


To be honest, I still have absolutely no idea what the hell the Flood were supposed to be in these novels, and their relationship with the Timeless One didn't help either.

I've got some grasp of it, but from the description of the Flood in the novel, they just didn't seem like Flood, at all.

  • 07.25.2012 6:14 PM PDT
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I like the Forerunner novels, but I seemed to get through Nylund's novels much easier. I stopped in the middle of reading Cryptum -- I got bored. Then, I finally finished the book a bit later. I got Primordium when it first came out, eventually I stopped reading that too after getting bored with all the trekking and still have yet to finish it. I never had that problem with Nylund's novels, though.

Also -- maybe I'm just stupid -- but it's hard to grasp all that's going on in the Forerunner novels. There's such a wealth of lore and information -- which isn't a bad thing -- but for my tiny brain it tends to get a bit mind boggling trying to connect the dots and remember every piece of precious information.

I have a similar problem. The books contain a massive wealth of information and lore for the Forerunners, which is great. However, the novels didn't grab me like Nylund's or other authors. It is mostly Bear's writing style, for me. I just don't like it very much. Some scenes seem odd because of his descriptions of setting. At the end of Primordium (obvious spoilers), Bear describes the party trekking across a giant web with a spider over them. That scene just confused me because of how it was described.

  • 07.25.2012 7:34 PM PDT

What a waste....

Primordium seemed like a -blam!- to read for some reason. It felt like the Two Towers at times. "And they kept walking, and kept walking, and KEPT walking, found a thing, and kept walking."

I loved all of the other books though.

  • 07.25.2012 9:39 PM PDT

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Nylund books are like 90% better than the new books.

  • 07.25.2012 10:35 PM PDT
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Just like music, movies and video games, everyone has a different taste in books. I prefer Staten and Buckell's novels to Nyland's. I haven't read Grasslands yet.

So far I have found the Forerunner Saga to be more interesting that engaging as a story, mainly because you already know that in the end the Forerunners activate the rings. But I suppose it's the same sort of feeling I had towards The Fall of Reach, so maybe the Forerunner Saga is for you.

  • 07.26.2012 1:20 AM PDT

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I thought the books were boring.....and I liked Glasslands....

  • 07.26.2012 9:29 AM PDT

The Forerunner books are written in a very old fashioned style of writing--since Bear IS an old fashioned writer.

Nylund's books were good, but his were more action oriented, which is why I think so many of the fans liks them so much (this being a community of action-game FPS players). They were exciting, fast paced. The Forerunner trilogy isn't; they're more thematic, subtextual, and sophisticated than Nylund's, making them harder to read.

Ultimately it's preference. They're too different to compare.

[Edited on 07.26.2012 9:38 AM PDT]

  • 07.26.2012 9:36 AM PDT
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I had a hard time reading through them without skipping to the key parts merely because I have never seen Forerunners. I barely know about them compared to Sangheili Zealots.

With Covies and UNSC, I have seen them which is why it's a lot easier to read about them.

Now if a Promethean construct was in the Forerunner books, then I'd be interested, since I've seen them in action.

  • 07.26.2012 10:44 AM PDT