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Subject: The game has nothing to do with the books! NO SPARTANS!
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In Halo 3 there will be NO other Spartans, BUNGiE already said the game has no relation with the book. In the FAQ. So, will you all quit fussing about other Spartans being in Halo 3???? Nothing will happen. BUNGiE also said there was not going to be any new characters! (Also in FAQ.) Try reading the FAQ before making foolish posts!

Posted by: Namiko Spartan
But BUNGiE cant do more Spartans since a lot of Halo players have not read the books and have no knowledge of the other Spartans.

For better evidence go here:

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=7388480

Shiska: The Fall of Reach, The Flood, and First Strike are official books. Yes, Bungie had say in their writing Yes, the writers did some of their own work nothing was published without first receiving Bungie's approval.

However, what you fail to realize is that the books act as flavor for the hardcore. Guess what? Out of the millions that have bought and played the second Halo, only a tiny handful have actually READ these books. As such, it'd be unwise to reference the books directly in the game, as the reference would be obscure and misunderstood by the majority of players

The books enhance the games, not the other way around.

The mistake in your thinking is that Halo 1 doesn't "reference" anything that happened in The Flood. It's the other way around. And, Halo 1 didn't reference anything that happened during Fall of Reach, just as Halo 2 didn't reference anything that happened in First Strike.

Shiska: Something I must point out, now that this thread has grown...

The Cortana letters are not canon. They're a relic of a time when the first Halo wasn't even a first person shooter, yet. I suggest you do not read too deeply into them to find secrets about the games- there's nothing there to find

Halo Story Page: Would the books make the cut?


Joseph Staten: The books are, for better or worse, part of the canon. In the future we may choose to revise or flat-out ignore some of the less appealing ideas (Johnson's biological immunity to the Flood, for example), but folks should treat them as defining elements of the Halo universe.



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  • 06.16.2006 10:54 AM PDT
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^^^ i agree. this is Master chiefs show. i know its just harmless speculation, but plz let that whole "ZOMG!!!! i saw MC communicating with the other spartans"..........no...........what you saw were lights being reflected in his visor. then SOMEone comes along and starts this whole ' communicating ' thing

stick to the master chief.

  • 06.16.2006 10:57 AM PDT
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I agree. The whole premise of the game is that he is the LAST Spartan. When talking about the games keep to what is in the games. Bungie has said before that they will not collaborate the books with the games because not everybody who plays the games reads the book or vice versa. Simple. As. That. Period.

  • 06.16.2006 11:05 AM PDT
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Other spartans would be cool. Its not like they're gonna stand aside and let earth get destoyed. We'll need every man and spartan available! Viva La Spartan army of 1000 spartans! It takes more shots to kill an elite than it does a spartan so it would be an even battle.
I don't care about the books, i just think that with loads of spartans it would become a real war instead of a 1 man war.

  • 06.16.2006 11:05 AM PDT
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Well it aint gonna happen.

  • 06.16.2006 11:06 AM PDT
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Loads and loads of super soldiers. They could just make the normal troops better and that would keep me happy.

  • 06.16.2006 11:06 AM PDT
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It'd be so un-realistic if its a one-man war....you'll have to wait and see if spartans are in it. No-one knows who is in it yet apart from MC. But im saying it'd be cool to have them, and you cant say for definate that there are no spartans as the same for saying there is.

  • 06.16.2006 11:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: Lt Smash
Other spartans would be cool. Its not like they're gonna stand aside and let earth get destoyed. We'll need every man and spartan available! Viva La Spartan army of 1000 spartans! It takes more shots to kill an elite than it does a spartan so it would be an even battle.
I don't care about the books, i just think that with loads of spartans it would become a real war instead of a 1 man war.

It is a real war or did I miss all those Marines and Navy personnel that have fought in all the games? No, they don't have the capabilities of the Spartans. They are every day men and women fighting for what they believe. They are defending their freedom as humanity. Isn't that a war? Wouldn't you fight that war? C'mon now.

  • 06.16.2006 11:08 AM PDT
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Sir! Yes Sir!
Bungie wants YOU to buy halo 3.

  • 06.16.2006 11:11 AM PDT
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Also, like in my first post, BUNGiE said no new characters. THAT MEANS SPARTANS.
The game and the book are 2 totally different things.

  • 06.16.2006 11:12 AM PDT
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Please post where bungie says this.

  • 06.16.2006 11:13 AM PDT
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NO OTHER SPARTANS... ONLY MASTER CHIEF...

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Post where it says this!

  • 06.16.2006 11:14 AM PDT

July 15, 2008... The day the timer stood still.

Posted by: Namiko Spartan
Also, like in my first post, BUNGiE said no new characters. THAT MEANS SPARTANS.
The game and the book are 2 totally different things.
I'm not saying I disagree with you, but have you even read the books? You kinda make it sound like you're trying to defend yourself from the fact that you don't want to read. Also, how is it that you say all this when it says in your sig: "Master Chief dies in Halo 3?"

  • 06.16.2006 11:15 AM PDT
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The troops' AI was terrible and they had no initiative without the mc around. I don't recall them killing anything bigger than a grunt without the MC's help. The rocket guy in the passanger seat would often end up shooting the point blank ghost infront of me. In Halo1 they always dove headfirst into my jeep plastering their faces on my hog! Maybe a spartan or 2 would be usefull. Or a 1000 for the war effort.

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  • 06.16.2006 11:15 AM PDT
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The books do have something to do with the game too. Also Namiko Spartan is and idiot, posting things in his sig with no evidence or reason, just random guesses.
If you prove bungire says there are no spartans i'll be happy with what you said.

  • 06.16.2006 11:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: Namiko Spartan
In Halo 3 there will be NO other Spartans, BUNGiE already said the game has no relation with the book. In the FAQ.

Lie.

So, will you all quit fussing about other Spartans being in Halo 3???? Nothing will happen. BUNGiE also said there was not going to be any new characters! (Also in FAQ.)

Lie.

Try reading the FAQ before making foolish posts!

You should do the same.

Still, I admit that the chance of other spartans in the game is small.

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  • 06.16.2006 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Pheonix
The books do have something to do with the game too. Also Namiko Spartan is and idiot, posting things in his sig with no evidence or reason, just random guesses.
If you prove bungire says there are no spartans i'll be happy with what you said.


Umm... Im, a girl

  • 06.16.2006 11:18 AM PDT

Posted by: Namiko Spartan
In Halo 3 there will be NO other Spartans, BUNGiE already said the game has no relation with the book. In the FAQ. So, will you all quit fussing about other Spartans being in Halo 3???? Nothing will happen. BUNGiE also said there was not going to be any new characters! (Also in FAQ.) Try reading the FAQ before making foolish posts!


Bungie said that the books are cannon to the games, that means they are not 2 different things. The authors worked with Bungie when writing the books, and have the Bungie and Xbox logo.

Example: The Fall of Reach is the official prequel Halo: CE.

The Halo Universe containes alot more than just the games. And since you think the books and games are different, I ask you: Why is Johnson in Halo 2? According to the game he died in Halo: CE?

  • 06.16.2006 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Namiko Spartan
In Halo 3 there will be NO other Spartans, BUNGiE already said the game has no relation with the book. In the FAQ. So, will you all quit fussing about other Spartans being in Halo 3???? Nothing will happen. BUNGiE also said there was not going to be any new characters! (Also in FAQ.) Try reading the FAQ before making foolish posts!


Are you referring to the Halo 3 FAQ? In that case, no such claims exist.

Q
Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?

A
Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots...


That's all I could find pertaining to new characters in the H3 faq.

If you're talking about a different faq that I haven't seen, please post a link, and quotes that support your claim.

If not, stop putting words in bungie's mouth.

-PK

  • 06.16.2006 11:21 AM PDT
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The fact that in halo games there are no spartans as of yet (maybe never), is because in the books they died! people who say 3 are alive i cant remeber but i think they all died. one form plasma nade or elite plasma rifle. one left on a planet which gets glassed. one left on covenant ship and dies. one floats into space and dies. thats 4 dead. MC only one left.

  • 06.16.2006 11:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Pheonix
The fact that in halo games there are no spartans as of yet (maybe never), is because in the books they died! people who say 3 are alive i cant remeber but i think they all died. one form plasma nade or elite plasma rifle. one left on a planet which gets glassed. one left on covenant ship and dies. one floats into space and dies. thats 4 dead. MC only one left.


TRUE.

  • 06.16.2006 11:22 AM PDT
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sorry i shouldnt have presumed your a boy/man. Sorry.

  • 06.16.2006 11:23 AM PDT

Posted by: The Pheonix
The fact that in halo games there are no spartans as of yet (maybe never), is because in the books they died! people who say 3 are alive i cant remeber but i think they all died. one form plasma nade or elite plasma rifle. one left on a planet which gets glassed. one left on covenant ship and dies. one floats into space and dies. thats 4 dead. MC only one left.


There are a few Spartans left that we know of. Kelly left with Dr. Halsey, and like 2 others are with Master Chief when First Strike ends.

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  • 06.16.2006 11:23 AM PDT