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Posted by: The Pheonix
omg wtf in fall of reach spartans die! ok here are the actuall quotes from book saying so!
one-linda "a bolt of plasma struck her in the back. Another bolt of fire blazed her from the upper decks and splashed accross her front. She crumbled-her shields flickered and went out. two more bolts hit her chest . A third blast smashed into her helmet." Erm she dead now :-)


She is brought back to life by Dr. Halsey in First Strike

two-james "james almost had the explosives rigged to the nose free. A shower of needes hit him. One stuck the tank of his thruster harness-penetrated. It remained embedded for a split second...the exploded." now thats two. :-)
i'll givew the rest later gtg. but also it says "i lost a man" something about floating in space then "the worst death, for a spartan, floating helplessly. Fighting an enemy that cant be beat". thats 3


The one who floated off into space is James, and we don't know if he actually died.

  • 06.16.2006 12:18 PM PDT
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let me just say this... no one knows what is gonna happen becasue it hasn't been finished and no one here has played

  • 06.16.2006 12:19 PM PDT
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he died "the worst death, for a spartan" worst DEATH.

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thanks! yup i agree case closed.

  • 06.16.2006 12:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: The Pheonix
he died "the worst death, for a spartan" worst DEATH.


We don't know if he actually died. John thinks he did, but we can't be sure.

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Posted by: The Pheonix
omg wtf in fall of reach spartans die! ok here are the actuall quotes from book saying so!
one-linda "a bolt of plasma struck her in the back. Another bolt of fire blazed her from the upper decks and splashed accross her front. She crumbled-her shields flickered and went out. two more bolts hit her chest . A third blast smashed into her helmet." Erm she dead now :-)
two-james "james almost had the explosives rigged to the nose free. A shower of needes hit him. One stuck the tank of his thruster harness-penetrated. It remained embedded for a split second...the exploded." now thats two. :-)
i'll givew the rest later gtg. but also it says "i lost a man" something about floating in space then "the worst death, for a spartan, floating helplessly. Fighting an enemy that cant be beat". thats 3

She dies and was revived in First Strike by Halsey, on the way to the Covenant Armada.

It's never stated is james died or not, he has 90 minutes to find a ship to grab onto, or get into. He could be alive..actually there was a passage in the bible which involved a "James" and a "John", and James seemed to be the main player in it..Halo is tied to the bible..so I think he will come back with an important task at least once in the new novel, or Halo 3.

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so the games have nothing to do with the books?
except the fact that they both have the role of John the spartan...
they both have spartans
they both involve halos
they both involve covenant
do i need to go on?

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Posted by: alexander2006
so the games have nothing to do with the books?
except the fact that they both have the role of John the spartan...
they both have spartans
they both involve halos
they both involve covenant
do i need to go on?


Not much more to go on, buddy.....

  • 06.16.2006 12:25 PM PDT
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what? that made no sense..

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Posted by: alexander2006
so the games have nothing to do with the books?
except the fact that they both have the role of John the spartan...
they both have spartans
they both involve halos
they both involve covenant
do i need to go on?


Not much more to go on, buddy.....


You have yet to show any evidence that the games and novels aren't both derived from the same story-line.

  • 06.16.2006 12:33 PM PDT
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because its painfully obvious if you read the book, in the book the main role is "117 John" he is a spartan blah blah blah

  • 06.16.2006 12:34 PM PDT
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I don't understand people who say this stuff- I don't know why people get so offended (ESPECIALLY ones who have NO IDEA what happened in them) at the suggest that *gasp* the Halo story goes a little bit deeper than it seems to at first. I don't know why this is an absurd suggestion.

As for your "no new characters"- that is a lie.

Bungie said they have nothing to do with the books- that is a lie also.

Where do you people get this stuff? The books set up everything that happens in the games. It's not a horrible suggestion, just because you didn't read them.

  • 06.16.2006 12:57 PM PDT
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But BUNGiE cant do more Spartans since a lot of Halo players have not read the books and have no knowledge of the other Spartans.

  • 06.16.2006 1:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Namiko Spartan
But BUNGiE cant do more Spartans since a lot of Halo players have not read the books and have no knowledge of the other Spartans.


Bungie can easily do more Spartans. If you didn't read the books then you didn't know about the Brutes before Halo 2, that seemed to work out fine for you.

Edit: Didn't see your post Wuyie.

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Um, it's called cutscenes- there are plenty of them in Halo and Halo 2. People had no idea who the prophets or the Brutes were (characters introduced in one of the books) until Bungie filled people in through clever use of cutscenes. They've done it before, and they can do it again with ease.

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Posted by: Namiko Spartan
But BUNGiE cant do more Spartans since a lot of Halo players have not read the books and have no knowledge of the other Spartans.


Things can be explained on the game. How many people were confused by the Prophets and the Brutes? Not many, because what were either told or shown what we needed to know. Bungie could do the same with the other Spartans.

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I would have every Spartan 1, 1.5, 2 and 3 in the battle for earth. That is if any are alive.
I want the last battle to be crazy!

  • 06.16.2006 1:37 PM PDT
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Ok, people, here's how it works. First off: THE BOOKS ARE AN OFFICIAL PART OF THE HALO STORY LINE. MICROSOFT HAS CONFIRMED THIS. Anyway, It seems that there is about a 50/50 chance of there being other spartans in Halo 3. Theres no solid proof one way or another, so lets just stop arguing and wait for the game.


And for the post above: Keyes is dead, remember?

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Posted by: Namiko Spartan
But BUNGiE cant do more Spartans since a lot of Halo players have not read the books and have no knowledge of the other Spartans.


Bungie can easily do more Spartans. If you didn't read the books then you didn't know about the Brutes before Halo 2, that seemed to work out fine for you.

Edit: Didn't see your post Wuyie.

I'd do a Spartan (Linda)...


...err...lol just kidding. Remember kids, many things were introduced to the masses in halo books, and they didn't make your brain hurt when you saw them, did they? Here's the list again:

* Tartarus
* The Arbiter
* The Prophet of Truth
* Lord Hood

* The Covenant Flagship; Ascendant Justice

* Covenant A.I.s

* Race: Prophets
* Race: Brutes

* Cortana; going whacky (it's hinted at at the end of H2, and in the H3 trailer)

* Johnson; Escaped Halo's blast

* Battle Rifle
* Brute shot
* SMG
* Magnum
* Archer missile pods
* Orbital MAC cannons

* New feature: Dual Wielding

* Time warping crystal; we experience it's effects in Halo 2.

* Ships; dual core, spinning reactors as seen on the PoA; not mentioned in the game but in the book

* Slipspace; jumping from inside an atmosphere

Point is, things from the books will be implemented, and will not need a huge intro. Look at Tartarus, or the Arbiter, or the Prophets

Common sense can tell us most of how and who they are; a cinematic will explain the rest.

  • 06.16.2006 4:03 PM PDT
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Look, there are more spartans left, just because you think MC is the only one left is retarded. In the book there is atleast one more. and Who knows, maybe thats the twist bungie is going to pull on us, it says Halo 3 the finish the fight not halo 3 LAST SPARTAN. Just go with it and wait to see what bungie does. who knows, maybe the spartan II program wasnt the only program out there that had to deal with spartans.

also who expected the covie's to ally with the human race?

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  • 06.16.2006 4:06 PM PDT
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as i talso think it would be cool to run into other spartans on Halo3 i also agree with you on the book-doesnt-relate-to-the-game thing.................BUT wouldnt it be cool to like give commands OR be able to play with other people on LIVE in the campaign and actually start to use tactics between one another.......

But thats jus what i think.......;)

  • 06.16.2006 4:34 PM PDT