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Subject: proof there will not be more spartens in halo 3

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Posted by: Retarded Moose
Why would Bungie spend 6 years making the Chief the central character/hero of their biggest franchise and then all of a sudden introduce more Spartans that would ultimately steal the spotlight from him? John is going to save the world, not Fred, Linda or Barney.

What happened in Halo 2? We played as an Arbiter. If there is to be two conflicts (or maybe three) happening in Halo 3...Earth, another Halo, Coral?...Ghosts of Coral can mean it was a Forerunner planet and contains flood, or that it has dead Spartans on it..

Maybe the SPARTANS split up before heading back to Earth because they knew where Kelly and Halsey were going..and something bad happens..if we have around 20 levels as opposed to Halo 2's 10(?)..there will be plenty of room for a few Arbiter missions, and a few Kelly/Linda missions..along with 75% of the total missions being played as the Master Chief.


Stop bringin in Flintstones characters to your arguement, we all know it's your favorite show, on your favorite channel (Nickelodeon), but please..this is for Halo talk.

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Bungie already confirmed that there will be NO MORE Spartans did they not?


Bungie did not confirm that there will be no more Spartans.


hmm if writing on the back of the box that he is the last spartan doesnt confirm there will be no more then i dont know what does.


When the events of Halo take place in the Halo universe it is believed that the Master Chief is the last Spartan. Everyone in the Halo Universe thought that he was the last one and that the others died on Reach. We later find out that this is wrong, and that several other Spartans survived.

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The five remaining Spartan-II's:

Master Chief Petty Officer John-117
Linda-058
Kelly-087 (Missing in Action)
Senior Chief Petty Officer Fred-104
William-043

Other Spartans still alive (or have disappeared and can realistically resurface):

Three unnamed on active duty on the outer reaches of UNSC-controlled space.
Cassandra?
Spartan-III's (Kelly and Dr. Halsey's group?)
3 Spartans (MIA, Delta Team, Reach)
Joshua-029 (MIA, Reach)

Halo 3 = The Final Battle

You can sure as -blam!- bet that at least two (one is a given), if not all of these people are going to be involved in Halo 3 in some way or another. I am placing my bets on all five Spartan-II's and a batch of Spartan-III's showing up for this last great battle.

The stakes are too high for all hands not to show up to battle.

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In all likelyhood we will be fighting the Spartan III's.

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James is also MIA =D

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...And so the hero crawled through the fissure on the surface of Tyr. There, the lone Dwarf stared into the cold, dark eyes of Soulblighter...The fiend hefted his blade over his shoulder as a flock of raven took upon his form...

-TBG-

In the books Linda, a spartan, was still in a cryo tube

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She was revived by Dr. Halsey near the beginning of Operation: First Strike.

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...And so the hero crawled through the fissure on the surface of Tyr. There, the lone Dwarf stared into the cold, dark eyes of Soulblighter...The fiend hefted his blade over his shoulder as a flock of raven took upon his form...

-TBG-

who Linda if so that would be cool if she lives cuz she was badly wounded

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She died..than came back to life with Halsey's help...LINDA=JESUS!!!1

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Not true see if you look at it in a diffrent point of view we know Bungie tries to trick us so that was probably for only number 1 B4 they would come up with the idea of puttting a spartani in 3 i mean they might not have even know the game would get this far. Finnaly it could only be explaining that time period meaning your supposed to think your the last which is why we will be surpised if there is another in 3.

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She died..than came back to life with Halsey's help...LINDA=JESUS!!!1
Ah, you make me laugh. She palm-punched Linda's forehead and said "Be healed, bi7ch!"

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  • 06.16.2006 8:59 PM PDT

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The novels are official canon to the Halo storyline, whether or not you see small inconsistencies in them, and whether or not your beloved Spartans other than the Master Chief are not seen in the games. Listed below is a huge collection of quotes from various Bungie employees, Microsoft employees, and novel authors.


GameSpy: When you were writing the game's script, did you want to tie the whole universe together, including stuff that was in the two books?

Joe Staten: The books are full of wonderful, complex elements that would be hugely problematic if we included them in Halo 2 in any meaningful way (e.g. the existence of other Spartans). That being said, I did my best to be take the books into account as I wrote, and there are definitely common themes and characters. The opposite is true as well; Eric Nylund and I spoke often as he gathered is thoughts for the third Halo novel, "First Strike."


How Stuff Works: Was the "Halo" story fully realized and segmented into different games, or did you take the story as far as "Halo 1" and when it came time for a sequel, build the story from the ground up?


Pete Parsons: The "Halo" universe has an overarching story that is well thought out and was well thought out before "Halo 2." We have roughly 600 years worth of "Halo" fiction, and we know what happens inside of that universe at any given time. The ["Halo 2"] story itself only existed as notes and was really fleshed out. We know ultimately, at least in the "Halo" universe, where humanity came from, where it's going to, at what point in time it comes in contact with The Covenant [the villains in "Halo"] and what happens well beyond that.

"Halo 2" picks up literally right after "Halo 1." But there is still plenty of story in and around that. And you can see some of that in the three novels we have.

How Stuff Works: The novelization of a video game is, well ... novel. Where does Eric Nyland <sic> get the background for his books?

Pete Parsons: We work closely with him on all the stories. So what we do is we have these story arcs of the "Halo" universe, and Eric goes in and says, "Well that's a really good piece to take and here is in a microcosm what I think that story will look like."

How Stuff Works: Are you guys very conscious to make sure that everything fits together -- that the books and games don't contradict one another -- so that everyone can look to any source and say, "This is very consistent, fully realized world"?

Pete Parsons:Yes, but not in the marketing kind of way. We do it because we want the "Halo" universe to be manifold. You can certainly probably pull out some inconsistencies, but as a general rule we really try to keep it manifold. Because we think that ultimately we are doing this for ourselves. And after that, we're doing it for our fans, and we want them to really believe in this place that is the Halo universe. I think the reason Halo has captured so many imaginations is because we care a lot about what's going on in that universe and how believable that universe is. We have this high level myth that we understand very well.


EGM: You mention Reach; have you read all of the Halo books?

Pete Parsons: Yeah, obviously the Halo fiction. The overarching Halo universe is crafted here, and then guys like...particularly [Halo book author Eric Nylund] has the job of really fleshing out the bones of that particular story arc.

EGM: So somewhere there's a Halo bible that has the basic storyline, including what goes on after Halo 2?

Pete Parsons: Yes, from the present day to the future.


HBO: As the Halo storyline has evolved, have you made changes to Halo: The Fall of Reach, or have you kept it going in the direction you started?

Eric Nylund: By the time writing began, the storyline of the Halo game was more or less finalized. An outline for the novel was approved by Bungie before I began writing-only very minor changes were made to the novel.


HBO: Have there been changes to the GAME (that you know of) due to the book, or due to research instigated by its writing?

Eric Nylund: Not that I'm aware of, no. I relied on the Story Bible quite extensively. The whole idea behind a Story Bible is that if you create a document that accurately describes the universe in which a game takes place, you can use it as a guide for writing a novel (for example) without needing to constantly check the developing novel against a developing game.




Bungie/Microsoft controls the licensing of all Halo products - including the novels:



GameSpy: Also in regards to the "Halo universe," who has ultimate control over where and how the storylines intersect?

Joe Staten: Bungie. Specifically, myself, Jones, Parsons and our community team. And we're very careful about the opportunities we pursue.


GameSpy: When it comes to the expansion of the Halo universe, we've seen books come out, action figures, things like that. Was this a conscious decision by Bungie, or did it just start to happen as the Halo snowball rolled on and got bigger?

Frank O'Connor: You know, if you come by the Bungie offices, the place is absolutely filled with action figures, toys, and other stuff like that. The cool thing about working at Bungie, and I can't speak for the other studios at Microsoft, is that they let us do what we want, and they let us have complete control over our intellectual properties. So, we get to make the things that we want to make. That why I think people like the Halo action figures. They're fully posable, they're really high quality, and they're really detailed, and that's a direct result of us having control over them. It could have been possible for us to just hand that off to some factory and say, "Just make something that looks like this," but every toy, model, and even cups and T-shirts, that come back here, we get final approval over. It's not just approval, though, we also get to make changes like, "No, that's not detailed enough, make it more detailed." That's a really cool thing about working in this studio.


And Shishka said the following in this thread.

Posted By: Shishka
The Fall of Reach, The Flood, and First Strike are official books. Yes, Bungie had say in their writing. Yes, the writers did some of their own work nothing was published without first receiving Bungie's approval.

However, what you fail to realize is that the books act as flavor for the hardcore. Guess what? Out of the millions that have bought and played the second Halo, only a tiny handful have actually READ these books. As such, it'd be unwise to reference the books directly in the game, as the reference would be obscure and misunderstood by the majority of players.

The books enhance the games, not the other way around.

The mistake in your thinking is that Halo 1 doesn't "reference" anything that happened in The Flood. It's the other way around. And, Halo 1 didn't reference anything that happened during Fall of Reach, just as Halo 2 didn't reference anything that happened in First Strike.


That just about wraps that up. Any questions PM me or ask them here. Thanks to The Watchers for the information.

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Shiska: The Fall of Reach, The Flood, and First Strike are official books. Yes, Bungie had say in their writing Yes, the writers did some of their own work nothing was published without first receiving Bungie's approval.

However, what you fail to realize is that the books act as flavor for the hardcore. Guess what? Out of the millions that have bought and played the second Halo, only a tiny handful have actually READ these books. As such, it'd be unwise to reference the books directly in the game, as the reference would be obscure and misunderstood by the majority of players

The books enhance the games, not the other way around.

The mistake in your thinking is that Halo 1 doesn't "reference" anything that happened in The Flood. It's the other way around. And, Halo 1 didn't reference anything that happened during Fall of Reach, just as Halo 2 didn't reference anything that happened in First Strike.

Shiska: Something I must point out, now that this thread has grown...

The Cortana letters are not canon. They're a relic of a time when the first Halo wasn't even a first person shooter, yet. I suggest you do not read too deeply into them to find secrets about the games- there's nothing there to find

Halo Story Page: Would the books make the cut?


Joseph Staten: The books are, for better or worse, part of the canon. In the future we may choose to revise or flat-out ignore some of the less appealing ideas (Johnson's biological immunity to the Flood, for example), but folks should treat them as defining elements of the Halo universe

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Posted by: Retarded Moose
Why would Bungie spend 6 years making the Chief the central character/hero of their biggest franchise and then all of a sudden introduce more Spartans that would ultimately steal the spotlight from him? John is going to save the world, not Fred, Linda or Barney.


No doubt John will save the world, but it would just be cool if in a few missions, you have the last spartans working as a squad to break into the ark with MC at the lead, and then the others say they will hold the covies off while you go after Truth and stop him. (that is of course, if Truth activates the ark, which I just said as a way to work the Spartans in).

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