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Subject: How the Forerunners might have turned into Flood.
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It's nothing new that theories place the Flood as some sort of derivative from the Forerunners, but what would be the link? Indulge if you will, my theory: I believe it is possible that The Forerunners became so advanced that their only limitation was mortality, so they figured out how to live forever, only that it came with a terrible price. The Flood was the result of their tampering with their own genetic structure, turning them into intelligent, but grotesque creatures that only cared about their continued survival. The unaffected Forerunners eventually realize the only way to kill the immortal creatures is to cut them off of their food source, so they built the Halos for that reason. The striving to attain immortality is a Bungie concept seen also in the Marathon series in the form of Durandal, so I don't believe it is that farfetched. And the ultimate deep dark secret that the Prophets are after is in how to use that immortality for themselves. Ok, that last part is kinda stretching it, but you get the idea.

  • 06.16.2006 3:41 PM PDT
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not bad

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Wow, that's a very well thought out theory.
It makes sense.

  • 06.16.2006 3:46 PM PDT
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The second part of my theory also ties humans to the Forerunners. Maybe not as direct descendants, but maybe the Forerunners pulled a "Superman" and sent the genetic code for humans to a far off safe planet that would not be affected by the rings. Lets say this genetic code, or "index", landed in Africa. And so if the Forerunners had any last wish, it might have been that we evolve to their level, find their technology(cause it's obvious we instinctively know how to work Forerunner tech) and either find a solution to the Flood problem or reactivate the rings and start the process all over again.

  • 06.16.2006 4:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: camboy45
And the ultimate deep dark secret that the Prophets are after is in how to use that immortality for themselves. Ok, that last part is kinda stretching it, but you get the idea.


That is not stretching things at all. It is merely a logical extention to your theory.

This is one of the best theories that I have read. The forerunners could have killed themselves instead of chosing immortality when they saw it's horrible effects. Gravemind reflects this, as he talks about "suffering the curse of infinitude" or something like that. I think Gravemind wants to die, but can't, especially if the halos fire, he'll just go dormant again.
Excellent theory.

Edit: About the "superman" thing. I agree, the Forerunners probably aren't "directly" human, but there has to be some connection. Good Work...

[Edited on 6/16/2006]

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Posted by: camboy45
It's nothing new that theories place the Flood as some sort of derivative from the Forerunners, but what would be the link? Indulge if you will, my theory: I believe it is possible that The Forerunners became so advanced that their only limitation was mortality, so they figured out how to live forever, only that it came with a terrible price. The Flood was the result of their tampering with their own genetic structure, turning them into intelligent, but grotesque creatures that only cared about their continued survival. The unaffected Forerunners eventually realize the only way to kill the immortal creatures is to cut them off of their food source, so they built the Halos for that reason. The striving to attain immortality is a Bungie concept seen also in the Marathon series in the form of Durandal, so I don't believe it is that farfetched. And the ultimate deep dark secret that the Prophets are after is in how to use that immortality for themselves. Ok, that last part is kinda stretching it, but you get the idea.


i personally dont think this is true, but you made a good point and good examples. what i think is that the forerunners tried to take a piece of DNA from the flood and apply it to themselfs so they could be ammune to some diseases and/or live forever but the flood got out of control and they had to activate the rings

  • 06.16.2006 5:15 PM PDT
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This is one of the best threads on this forum.
Once again, very well done.

  • 06.16.2006 7:49 PM PDT
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That is the only theory that really makes sense to me, there was another forum that sort of had evidence to back up the second part. no one wants to die and the forrunners had the technnology so they thought that they could keep themselves from dieing...it makes perfect sense

  • 06.16.2006 7:58 PM PDT

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(cause it's obvious we instinctively know how to work Forerunner tech)

right i rememeber in the first halo. MC pressed the button that opened the bridge, but he wasnt sure how he knew which button it was.

  • 06.17.2006 2:35 PM PDT
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Forerunners arn't Flood. Flood are little bugs that have about 6 legs, are a foot high and jam 3 barbed tentacles into living things in order to control them.

Every other form of Flood is just a derivative of what they've infected.

  • 06.17.2006 2:40 PM PDT

The life and world you see is just a cheery toped and sugar coated version. You know nothing of Hell. Unknown to you and everyone around you is that there is a war going on that you can't see. Now that you know, you are part of it. And if you are going to survive, your going to need to learn to pull the trigger.

everybody is thinking about all this too much

  • 06.17.2006 2:42 PM PDT
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Doesn't the Master chief know how to run forerunner technology because of a stone or something he memorized from one of the Halo books? Anyway, I doubt the forerunners would make themselves the tiny little crawling things known as the flood because, as was said earlier, everything is derivative (ie. the combat forms are elites and marines). So, this is a good theory, but likely not true. Now a believable thing would be if the forerunners messed with their own genetic code to become humans, and therefore immune from the blast of the Halos, but they lost the memory of all of their technology in the process.....

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Doesn't the Master chief know how to run forerunner technology because of a stone or something he memorized from one of the Halo books? Anyway, I doubt the forerunners would make themselves the tiny little crawling things known as the flood because, as was said earlier, everything is derivative (ie. the combat forms are elites and marines). So, this is a good theory, but likely not true. Now a believable thing would be if the forerunners messed with their own genetic code to become humans, and therefore immune from the blast of the Halos, but they lost the memory of all of their technology in the process.....


that could be true but then why arent humans on any other forerunner-humans things tech/planet? and if they messed themselfs up that bad to make them look like us(lol i just dist humanity without thinking about it) then why would they let the freakrunners reproduce with any one else? no offense cuz your theore is good, but i like mine better ;P

  • 06.17.2006 8:07 PM PDT
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and it wasnt the stone. that just contained coordinates

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I literally Lolled when i read the title to this post. But your theory is well thought out and makes a lot of sense.

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Posted by: Redoubt
Forerunners arn't Flood. Flood are little bugs that have about 6 legs, are a foot high and jam 3 barbed tentacles into living things in order to control them.

Every other form of Flood is just a derivative of what they've infected.


^He's^ right, if the forerunners are the flood, then they would have to be those tiny 6 legged creatures. Or, maybe its just that we haven't seen an original flood yet.

  • 06.17.2006 8:13 PM PDT
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Makes More sense than most theories out there.

ALso check mine out. it is similar but involves the AI's

Its titled

Gravemind / AI theory with evidence

  • 06.17.2006 8:17 PM PDT
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Makes realitive sense... by trying to have imortality they ended up killing themselves. Creating the Halos to kill themselves which in turn would kill the flood. But somehow Humans must of survived... perhaps Humans are immune to the Halo blast, but the flood are killed? Of course that does make total sense because humans are just as edible as covinent. Maybe the forrunners were made up of both humans and covinent and they started the myth of the "divine wind" as to make sure the Halos would get activated again. Just random thinking... Good theory though simple, yet easily complex.

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Now, here's where it gets even more fatastical, suppose humans find the cure, or at least repellant for the Flood? Something that keeps us protected. What could possibly accomplish this? Surely the Forerunners or even the Covenant with their more advanced technology would have thought of a way to resist the Flood, right? On the other hand, what if Humans discover a cure first, by accident?

In the form of Sgt. Johnson

Until the graphic novel is released, we will not know for sure the exact details of his survival against the Flood, but what we do know is this; the Flood parasite could not latch onto his nervous system because of a disease he contracted from overexposure to plasma radiation. Boren's Disease I believe it is called. If it can be weaponized as a cure, I don't know, maybe the huge beam that shoots from the artifact located on earth is a humungous burst of plasma radiation that can sterilizes us from the Flood, thus rendering us useless to them and killing them off cause they won't have enough to eat.

  • 06.18.2006 1:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: Spiffy Uncle
Posted by: camboy45
And the ultimate deep dark secret that the Prophets are after is in how to use that immortality for themselves. Ok, that last part is kinda stretching it, but you get the idea.


That is not stretching things at all. It is merely a logical extention to your theory.

This is one of the best theories that I have read. The forerunners could have killed themselves instead of chosing immortality when they saw it's horrible effects. Gravemind reflects this, as he talks about "suffering the curse of infinitude" or something like that. I think Gravemind wants to die, but can't, especially if the halos fire, he'll just go dormant again.
Excellent theory.

Edit: About the "superman" thing. I agree, the Forerunners probably aren't "directly" human, but there has to be some connection. Good Work...


Good point. He also says he is "a testament to all your sins" to the Chief and Cortana, kinda has new meaning under this context.

  • 06.18.2006 8:11 AM PDT

Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

this is kinda like my theory that the flood were an experiment that became uncontrollable.

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F'n brilliant

  • 06.18.2006 8:41 AM PDT

I think that we forget that the Rings have beautiful structure. Mountains, valleys, rivers, oceans... everything Earth has. Why would the Forerunners make such a place, if it's something to keep the flood in and to never touch again?

They wouldn't, plain and simple.

Chances are, the rings were modified to accomodate the Flood, which probably isn't as you theorize. It's a disease that they enhanced; consider it like Resident Evil, except 100 000 years ago.

Basically, I think your theory is wrong. That's just my opinion.

  • 06.18.2006 8:42 AM PDT

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