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ODST Romeo

ok when the trailer says ive somthing gods and demons, are the gods forunners and the demons spartens?

  • 06.16.2006 8:21 PM PDT
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I would say the demons is Gravemind. Why would Cortana call the Chief a demon?

  • 06.16.2006 8:24 PM PDT

ODST Romeo

the voice is gravemind and cortana mixed and the covenant calls da chief a "demon"

  • 06.16.2006 8:25 PM PDT
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maybe. do u think they mean spartens are demons because in the game the covi call them that.
or maybe she liitterally means demons and gods i dont know or maybe ur right
i think by demons it means the flood but i am not sure but it is iteresting

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  • 06.16.2006 8:26 PM PDT

ODST Romeo

ya but would the gravemind call flood demons?

  • 06.16.2006 8:28 PM PDT

Gravemind is talking though Cortana, so Gravemind can not be referring to the Flood, because Gravemind is the Flood leader.

If you had actually played Halo 2 you would know that

  • 06.16.2006 8:33 PM PDT
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You can't prove that gravemind is the flood

  • 06.16.2006 8:36 PM PDT

ODST Romeo

well u cant either ha and u cant prove that they warthog isnt a piece of hard poo-poo

  • 06.16.2006 8:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan 7
You can't prove that gravemind is the flood


Spartan 7 you should play Halo 2 before you comment on the Halo 3 forum.

* The Arbiter calls Gravemind "Parasite."

* Gravemind helps the Flood onto High Charity.

* He lived under the Library.

* He teleports himself onto High Charity.

* You can hear him though the speakers on High Charity

* If you had actually seen Gravemind you would have reconised him as Flood

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  • 06.16.2006 8:47 PM PDT
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Guys, "I have defied gods and demons" doesn't mean anything. It can basically be interpreted as "I have broken through the boundaries you have set for me."

  • 06.16.2006 8:51 PM PDT

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Grunt Lover, I believe you overlook Bungie's ability to have awesome stories. Who says the Gravemind was the leader? Perhaps he's only encouraging the flood for a greater purpose? You don't know. :)

  • 06.16.2006 8:52 PM PDT

Posted by: SS_Zag1
Grunt Lover, I believe you overlook Bungie's ability to have awesome stories. Who says the Gravemind was the leader? Perhaps he's only encouraging the flood for a greater purpose? You don't know. :(


Do you have any proof he is not Flood?
Why would the Flood do every thing he says if he is not one of them?
Have you even played Halo 2?

  • 06.16.2006 8:58 PM PDT
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The word "demon" is a covenant word that they use to describe the Master Chief.

Cortana: "For a covenant construct it's unusally formitable"

My theory: It was easily formitable so Cortana could gain access to it, then the covenant consturct would go inside Cortana and become a virus, and infect her. (Not Flood infect, but virus infect) I don't think it's either Cortana or Gravemind talking in the trailer but rather the covenant construct.

So when Cortana says "I have defined God's and Demons" it's probably the convenant construct inside Cortana saying that it fooled the Chief into going onto the Forerunner ship, and fooled Gravemind by giving him inaccurate information.

Thats why the covenant construct says "Don't make a girl a promise if you know you can't keep it" because why would Cortana refer to herself as a "girl" when she knows she's AI. And the covenant construct is almost sure it sent the MC to his death.

  • 06.16.2006 9:01 PM PDT

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The word "demon" is a covenant word that they use to describe the Master Chief.

Cortana: "For a covenant construct it's unusally formitable"

My theory: It was easily formitable so Cortana could gain access to it, then the covenant consturct would go inside Cortana and become a virus, and infect her. (Not Flood infect, but virus infect) I don't think it's either Cortana or Gravemind talking in the trailer but rather the covenant construct.

So when Cortana says "I have defined God's and Demons" it's probably the convenant construct inside Cortana saying that it fooled the Chief into going onto the Forerunner ship, and fooled Gravemind by giving him inaccurate information.

Thats why the covenant construct says "Don't make a girl a promise if you know you can't keep it" because why would Cortana refer to herself as a "girl" when she knows she's AI. And the covenant construct is almost sure it sent the MC to his death.


You can hear Gravemind talking though Cortana in the trailer.
And why would a Covie construct let the Chief get on the ship, it would do better stranding him on High Charity with the Flood

  • 06.16.2006 9:09 PM PDT
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i agree with silver that does make alot of sense
hey but i could not help but feel sorry for the arbitor when he met the gravemind because everytime he would talk green mist would fly out of his mouth that must have stunk and probably got in his mouth cuase for reason those aliens cant close there mouths mc was probably laughing in his helmet because he did not have to smell that lol

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  • 06.16.2006 9:12 PM PDT
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Well the Covenant only call the Master Chief the demon, not the other Spartans. And there's a possibility that it isn't Cortana in the trailer, I think something like the was mentioned in the documentary.

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Posted by: Grunt lover
Posted by: silver_titanium
The word "demon" is a covenant word that they use to describe the Master Chief.

Cortana: "For a covenant construct it's unusally formitable"

My theory: It was easily formitable so Cortana could gain access to it, then the covenant consturct would go inside Cortana and become a virus, and infect her. (Not Flood infect, but virus infect) I don't think it's either Cortana or Gravemind talking in the trailer but rather the covenant construct.

So when Cortana says "I have defined God's and Demons" it's probably the convenant construct inside Cortana saying that it fooled the Chief into going onto the Forerunner ship, and fooled Gravemind by giving him inaccurate information.

Thats why the covenant construct says "Don't make a girl a promise if you know you can't keep it" because why would Cortana refer to herself as a "girl" when she knows she's AI. And the covenant construct is almost sure it sent the MC to his death.


You can hear Gravemind talking though Cortana in the trailer.
And why would a Covie construct let the Chief get on the ship, it would do better stranding him on High Charity with the Flood


Well, we'll have to wait till Halo 3 comes out for those questions to be answered.

  • 06.16.2006 9:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: SS_Zag1
Grunt Lover, I believe you overlook Bungie's ability to have awesome stories. Who says the Gravemind was the leader? Perhaps he's only encouraging the flood for a greater purpose? You don't know. :(


Do you have any proof he is not Flood?
Why would the Flood do every thing he says if he is not one of them?
Have you even played Halo 2?


You don't have tons of proof that he is.
The Flood don't necessarily do everything he says.. I never saw him commanding them around. Looks like they were running about eating everything in sight if you ask me..
Actually, I've played through the entire Halo 2 campaign exactly 6 7/15 times.

  • 06.16.2006 9:26 PM PDT
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Osmosis!

No no no. Cortana doesn't say "for a covenant construct, it's unusually formittable," she says it's "FORMIDABLE", meaning scary and creepy...
And I agree with whoever said that Cortana said something about demons and gods, she meant she defied natural law or something.

  • 06.16.2006 10:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Grunt lover
Posted by: SS_Zag1
Grunt Lover, I believe you overlook Bungie's ability to have awesome stories. Who says the Gravemind was the leader? Perhaps he's only encouraging the flood for a greater purpose? You don't know. :(


Do you have any proof he is not Flood?
Why would the Flood do every thing he says if he is not one of them?
Have you even played Halo 2?


You don't have tons of proof that he is.
The Flood don't necessarily do everything he says.. I never saw him commanding them around. Looks like they were running about eating everything in sight if you ask me..
Actually, I've played through the entire Halo 2 campaign exactly 6 7/15 times.


I think I have enough proof, you should go and play the Gravemind level again, and just look at Gravemind.
thats all the proof I needed.

  • 06.17.2006 12:12 AM PDT