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Subject: BOOKS DO NOT EFFECT THE GAME !!NO OTHER SPARTANS!!
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Posted by: sycomunkee
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Posted by: sycomunkee
I know we can all agree that Halo3 will finish one of the BEST trilogies in history, putting a lot of movie trilogies to shame.

the one thing is that i cant agree on more spartans than the MC being in Halo 3. He is the only functional spartan, the only spartan awake and not injured.


NOT true.


What is not true? Aparently you know where the other spartans are.


omg. its not true that the MC is the only awake or non-injured spartan. nor is it false. we have nothing to say that we know for a fact that there are more awake or not. of course we dont know where all the other spartans are but, do you know where they are, either sleeping or injured? no you dont, so you cant prove that they arent functional.

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Currently, Fred, Linda, Will, and possibly Kelly are all active, with a possible 2-3 others we haven't met before.

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true, but saying there will be more spartans in halo3 is a lie... it wont happen.

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Oh, thank god you came with evidence. I made another no Spartan forum but with worse evidence! THANK YOU.
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=7377429

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Posted by: The Pheonix
just cuz they mention his name doesnt mean he works at bungie you dumbass lmao.


Shiska's the only forum moderator that works for bungie btw thought you would want to know

Saw the link above me, This Pheonix guy sure is persistant he refuses to accept the fact that the game has no freaking relation with the book. he's in denial if he wants to deny it let him i don't see the point arguing with him he has his own point of view we have ours so lets not waste time trying to convince this guy. when the game comes out let, him go whine about to his mom.





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Posted by: einx359
Well, see, that is where we disagree. Now, do not try to deny it, because the books are part of the storyline. Currently, Fred, Linda, Will, and possibly Kelly are all active. This is out of the books, which are out of the Halo Bible. Which means that the Halo bible says that the other Spartans are active.

Now, as to whether or not they will put them in Halo 3, I will admit that is in the air. I know that another Spartan being in Halo 3 is not a certainty. We are not saying that there will definately be another Spartan. We are saying we HOPE there is another Spartan, just like other people are saying they want the pistol back, and others are saying they want to be able to pilot a pelican. It is what we want, and I see no reason for people to get violent just because we are hoping for something to happen in a game. It is what we want, and we have a right to express that desire.


yes that is what ive been trying to say. just because we believe one thing doent mean you have to lower yourself to the state that you have to try and prove your BELIEFS are true. we want one thing, you may want it but dont think it will be or else dont even want it. right now neither side has proof so thats how it will stay: we want, you dont. its that simple.

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Posted by: Namiko Spartan
Oh, thank god you came with evidence. I made another no Spartan forum but with worse evidence! THANK YOU.
[url]http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=7377429[/ url]


Your a ___________, you use your own sig as evidence, wow.

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Posted by: einx359
Well, see, that is where we disagree. Now, do not try to deny it, because the books are part of the storyline. Currently, Fred, Linda, Will, and possibly Kelly are all active. This is out of the books, which are out of the Halo Bible. Which means that the Halo bible says that the other Spartans are active.

Now, as to whether or not they will put them in Halo 3, I will admit that is in the air. I know that another Spartan being in Halo 3 is not a certainty. We are not saying that there will definately be another Spartan. We are saying we HOPE there is another Spartan, just like other people are saying they want the pistol back, and others are saying they want to be able to pilot a pelican. It is what we want, and I see no reason for people to get violent just because we are hoping for something to happen in a game. It is what we want, and we have a right to express that desire.


yes that is what ive been trying to say. just because we believe one thing doent mean you have to lower yourself to the state that you have to try and prove your BELIEFS are true. we want one thing, you may want it but dont think it will be or else dont even want it. right now neither side has proof so thats how it will stay: we want, you dont. its that simple.


Heres the difference between you people and us...





















*we have proof*

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Posted by: sycomunkee
true, but saying there will be more spartans in halo3 is a lie... it wont happen.


when will you learn? give some proof from BUNGIE (not your head) that there wont be any! yea thats right, you can't. we cant either but we aren't saying there will be, we are saying we want there to be.

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Thats not proof...all i can say is that everyone thinks differently so get over it let people think what they want to think. Some say 1 spartan,2spartans, just let it rest will ya its seriously very over rated...

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well there is a spartanIII project in the books. so if it were the reason behind introducing more spartans i would not be surprised.

and i think you are all failing to remember that bungie has in fact already introduced another spartan. the chick spartan 457 in whatever deadoralive5 or whatever it was. already another spartan with a canon story made by bungie, who oversaw her production. maybe just a hint at things to come?...

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Posted by: halo and pok3mon
Heres the difference between you people and us...
*we have proof*


ok now im confused....at first you seemed to be defending that there may be spartans but now im not so sure....also, PROOF PROOF PROOF! where is it?!?! show us proof from bungie and only bungie that there wont be any more spartans.

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Posted by: Namiko Spartan
Oh, thank god you came with evidence. I made another no Spartan forum but with worse evidence! THANK YOU.
[url]http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=7377429[/ url]


Your a ___________, you use your own sig as evidence, wow.


Gee. That was mean, I will change it....

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Where does it say that there wont be more spartans? It doesnt. Its the halo universe and its connected stories, i believe they have to be in there somewhere. Get your facts straight.

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Easy, i believe the HALO TRILOGY revolves arounf the Master Chief, John 117, look up the bible references that describe him, the first and the last, or the Saviour. This story arc is about him and only him, and how he is going to save the universe. No other spartan will be in this STORY ARC.

Will he be in the next bungie game? Dont know, look what happened to marathon, it turned into halo....

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I'm done here, enough has been said, god bless.

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Posted by: sycomunkee
Easy, i believe the HALO TRILOGY revolves arounf the Master Chief, John 117, look up the bible references that describe him, the first and the last, or the Saviour. This story arc is about him and only him, and how he is going to save the universe. No other spartan will be in this STORY ARC.

Will he be in the next bungie game? Dont know, look what happened to marathon, it turned into halo....


FINALLY

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Posted by: einx359
Well, see, that is where we disagree. Now, do not try to deny it, because the books are part of the storyline. Currently, Fred, Linda, Will, and possibly Kelly are all active. This is out of the books, which are out of the Halo Bible. Which means that the Halo bible says that the other Spartans are active.

Now, as to whether or not they will put them in Halo 3, I will admit that is in the air. I know that another Spartan being in Halo 3 is not a certainty. We are not saying that there will definately be another Spartan. We are saying we HOPE there is another Spartan, just like other people are saying they want the pistol back, and others are saying they want to be able to pilot a pelican. It is what we want, and I see no reason for people to get violent just because we are hoping for something to happen in a game. It is what we want, and we have a right to express that desire.


yes that is what ive been trying to say. just because we believe one thing doent mean you have to lower yourself to the state that you have to try and prove your BELIEFS are true. we want one thing, you may want it but dont think it will be or else dont even want it. right now neither side has proof so thats how it will stay: we want, you dont. its that simple.


Heres the difference between you people and us...



*we have proof*


Actually, there is not really any proof to say that the Spartans will appear, which is what I am saying. Despite all intentions, unless Bungie comments exactly on whether or not there will be multiple Spartans in Halo 3, there is no proof either way, only speculation. Apparently, two debates are being confused in this thread: whether or not there are other active Spartans in the Halo universe, and whether or not they will appear in Halo 3. If you read my other posts, I think I have made clear that there are other active Spartans. Which means that it IS POSSIBLE that there will be other Spartans in Halo 3. However, there is no way to determine whether or not there will be as of this moment. So effectively, this thread is pointless and moot.

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Posted by: sycomunkee
Easy, i believe the HALO TRILOGY revolves arounf the Master Chief, John 117, look up the bible references that describe him, the first and the last, or the Saviour. This story arc is about him and only him, and how he is going to save the universe. No other spartan will be in this STORY ARC.0


the story arc is only about MC?... then why in the hell am i playing as the arbitor? i think the arbitor saved the universe in halo2.
if spartans fight along side of MC then the story really isnt changed. 'cept that the humans became smart and made more of their ultrasoldier. mpt out of the question if you have an open mind.

just remember that everything changed story wise for halo2 from the previous game, so we have no room for judgment saying what will and what wont be in halo3. this topic, along with the other EXACT same topic are nigh pointless. the answer is- bungie knows and chooses to do what it wants.

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Yeh unless you have a quote saying "No extra Spartans in H3" from Bungie, you're making a wild assumption. And everybody knows what happens when you assume something...

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Isn't there another Spartan in DOA? And doesn't the fact that you can play the actual game, not just multiplayer, with more than one spartan count as proof that there is more than one Spartan? Also, correct me if I'm mistaken please, but in Halo the Chief wore Mark IV (4) armor. In Halo 2 he wore Mark VI (6). So concievably, somebody had to wear the Mark V(5) armor, right?

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Posted by: sycomunkee
Easy, i believe the HALO TRILOGY revolves arounf the Master Chief, John 117, look up the bible references that describe him, the first and the last, or the Saviour. This story arc is about him and only him, and how he is going to save the universe. No other spartan will be in this STORY ARC.0


the story arc is only about MC?... then why in the hell am i playing as the arbitor? i think the arbitor saved the universe in halo2.
if spartans fight along side of MC then the story really isnt changed. 'cept that the humans became smart and made more of their ultrasoldier. mpt out of the question if you have an open mind.

just remember that everything changed story wise for halo2 from the previous game, so we have no room for judgment saying what will and what wont be in halo3. this topic, along with the other EXACT same topic are nigh pointless. the answer is- bungie knows and chooses to do what it wants.


The arbitor didnt save anything, just merely post poned the destruction of the universe. The halo put out a beacon that has all the halo's on stand-by for activation. The MC is the main charecter and the story is truely centered around his actions.

Without the MC destroying the first halo, it wouldnt have set up halo2's plot. The MC is the one who is going to determine how the story ends. dont try to get technical with who did what and who is who, The MC was here from the begining not the arbitor.

Posted by: Lono
Isn't there another Spartan in DOA? And doesn't the fact that you can play the actual game, not just multiplayer, with more than one spartan count as proof that there is more than one Spartan? Also, correct me if I'm mistaken please, but in Halo the Chief wore Mark IV (4) armor. In Halo 2 he wore Mark VI (6). So concievably, somebody had to wear the Mark V armor, right?


The spartan in DOA 4 has nothing to do with the master chief or the halo universe, it was merely a charecter made up to be in DOA 4 because the MC is what makes halo the greatest game.

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Although you are right, personally I would like to see the return of some other Spartans. Not just because they are in the books, but because it would be cool to work as a Spartan sqaud. Also, looking at the state of earth in the trailer, it looks like we might need them.

Books do not equal game, fine, but whats to say they won't include stuff?

And as a final note: --- .-.. . / --- .-.. . / --- -..- . -. / ..-. .-. . .

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Posted by: ajhayter
Although you are right, personally I would like to see the return of some other Spartans. Not just because they are in the books, but because it would be cool to work as a Spartan sqaud. Also, looking at the state of earth in the trailer, it looks like we might need them.

Books do not equal game, fine, but whats to say they won't include stuff?

And as a final note: --- .-.. . / --- .-.. . / --- -..- . -. / ..-. .-. . .


Spartan squads would turn Halo 3 into Rebublic Commando 2 that would be bad.

What are those dots? If those are the brail i've seen before, they are not brail, no symbols match.

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Technically, the Arbitor is there from the beginning according to that really awsome CG scene in Halo 2. He just wasn't called the Arbitor then. Also, I believe you when you say the Spartan in DOA is just for fun, but what about the other points in my post?

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