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Subject: Flood Hunters

i just wanted to be cool and have a sig like everyone else

actually the flood first infect your mind taking control, and then the infection forms burrow inside of the hosts chest, branching out to the rest of the body, explaining the mutation

  • 06.17.2006 6:50 PM PDT
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What if bungie did somethin completely suprising, like evolve the flood to where it could make its own nervous system to think on its own...maybe?

  • 06.17.2006 7:18 PM PDT
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Wow it took a whole page to get back on topic

  • 06.17.2006 7:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Redoubt
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Posted by: Redoubt
Shut up, for your own good.

Now, as an experianced biologist, I can safely say that the Hunters, without a shadow of a doubt, MUST have some form of communal nevous system to operate as symbiotically as they do (ie, fight!).

Oh, and for the record, single celled creatures cannot be taken over by the Flood, as told by 343.

Now please, leave the thinking to the thoughtful.


I'm sorry to say, but the idea that Hunters consist of hundred indivudual worm-like creatures comes from Bungie themselves. It's OFFICIAL that one Hunter is, in fact, a hive of smaller creatures combined. Discuss it with them, and not a random forum-goer who happens to tell you the truth.


Something has to co-ordinate the worms.


its called science fiction for a reason buddy, why cant you just accept the fact that Bungie has OFFICIALLY stated that the Hunters are made up of MANY seperate being to form a larger whole

  • 06.17.2006 7:35 PM PDT
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If a hunter could be taken over, why haven't we seen one???? and just a note, brutes can't be infected either.

  • 06.17.2006 8:32 PM PDT
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My gametag is not sparda34b, it was an error, gamertag is Sparda3b.

Hunters are really just a bunch of worm like creatures put toghether that fall apart when flood try to take control which is why the parisite forms are most deadly to hunters as they don't directly attack them they tear the worms apart.

  • 06.17.2006 8:52 PM PDT
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Three good resons...
1. Balance
2. Not one orginism
3. They have boruns symdrome

  • 06.17.2006 9:02 PM PDT
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The flood need to connect to the spinal cord (they need a vertabrate) Hunters are invertabrates. There for they can not be taken over by the flood.

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  • 06.17.2006 9:15 PM PDT

It is people like you that make people like me need medication.

Simple answer to why those saying they can be infected are wrong.

Bungie said they can't be. You lose.

  • 06.17.2006 9:25 PM PDT

Why can't Brutes be infected?

  • 06.17.2006 9:40 PM PDT
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1. Balance

im still confused about this and why people keep saying hunters cant be infected because of balence... it doesent effect multiplayer and it wouldn't ruin campaign...

Also, in responce to the other guys I was talking to, the flood infection is not a virus, it is manipulating it's hosts DNA to mutate it into something more leathal, someonthing more similar to its own DNA code. ALso the tenticles growing out of the flood's neck/chest region are the infection form's sensory tenticles so it 'knows' were its enimies are and were the combat form is...

The infection form probably releaces chemicals to help mutate the host's DNA but thats it. The flood isn't a virus.


Brutes can be infected, although I have no idea why we haven't seen them infected... probably because it taked a longer ammount of time for them to become mutated.


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  • 06.17.2006 9:41 PM PDT
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if there a buyncha worms then why do they die w/ one shot to the back? and they have emotions...also if there a buncha worms then how do they have brothers?

  • 06.17.2006 9:42 PM PDT

hunters have a nerves system cuz wenever u melee is from the back twice it will die. which means it has a spinal cord so it can be taken over the flood.(but its too powerful to)

  • 06.17.2006 9:43 PM PDT
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because that one shot is a .50 HE semiAP round fired very accurately and probably obliterates the part of the hunter that deals with its life functions.

Hunters Are sentient, and they have their own emotions and primitive thoughts. Noone knows how the covenant reprodice and I don't want to know.

  • 06.17.2006 9:44 PM PDT
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they make noise too, so they must have mouths, plsu something that big couldnt move w/o bones.

  • 06.17.2006 10:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Redoubt
Finally, the Flood don't have to use Infection forms to infect something, those spores you see in High Charity at Halo 2's closing moments can be used to infect things also.


No, no, the flood do need infection forms to infect things, they're the mechanical force behind the infection, hence their name. They basically "drive" the host like a car using cadaverous nerves as controls.

  • 06.17.2006 10:01 PM PDT
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wait hold on asecond. IF the Hunters are made up of many different worms then wouldent that already make them kinda invincable i mean youd shoot them and the bullet would either go right through or stay in inside the hunter that wouldent mean the hunter would die very easily cause they are made up of millions of worms that all work together but if only a few were damaged i dont see how that could kill a hunter

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what about the flood juggernauts? they didnt make the cut but there still in the game code, found and put in by modders. they travel in pairs and get really pissed when there partners die. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flood_%28Halo%29#Juggernaut

this all just contradicts the fact that hunters are worms. i know bungie said they are but it doesent all piece correctly together. bungie even said that that is just there combat form so maybe there are other hunter forms to be seen, whther we will see em or not is another story. but i dont know how a buncha worms can talk and move around like that(hunters do talk, or at least grunt)

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  • 06.17.2006 10:54 PM PDT
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I'm going to have to go with the Biologist. Thats just my opinion, but you people who are saying "thats crap cuz bungie says otherwise." you are the kind of people who believe that tabacco products don't cause cancer, and that fast food isn't bad for you and that fossil fuels aren't causing global warming. just becuase the people who make the stuff, IE players, mc donalds, and chevron say that it isn't true, doesn't mean that it isn't really true.

now on to a more important point, the halo universe is 100% science fiction. so why is this even being argued about? Lets all get up and do something productive. Me im going to Drive a block to mcdonalds in my suv while smoking 4 cigars at once!

  • 06.17.2006 10:55 PM PDT
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I have been watching the debate about the juggenaut flood and the hunters being infected. This is what I found fromt the book "The Flood" Here is a quote from Chapter 6 Page 165 1ST Paragraph "The Hunter reached full speed and coulden't dodge in time. The creature's massive feet dug into the soft ground as it tried to alter course to avoid the rocket- to no avail. The 102mm shaped charge exploded aginst the very center of THE HUNTER'S CHEST ARMOR, BLEW THROUGH HIS TORSO, AND SEVERED HIS SPINE....." If the hunter has a spine can we not assume that it might have a central nervous system and can be contorled by the flood? If you look at the Juggernaut flood model it's legs do look like that of a hunter. Given the size of the hunter around 8 feet when you fight them according to bungie they stand at about 9-10 feet when thay are at full stance so I would not be suprised that master chief would be looking at the mid section of a fully standing hunter.

P.S. I used caps to high light the main point of the paragraph. This is all just speculation until the final game comes out. But it would be fun to fight the Juggernaut

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  • 06.18.2006 2:56 AM PDT
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Hunters, called Lekgolo in the Covenant language, are incredibly dangerous foes, deployed more like equipment than soldiers. They are brought in for demolition or heavy defense, and always work in pairs, calling each other "bond brothers." Rather than being built similarly to the other Covenant species with an endoskeleton and central nervous system, Hunters are actually sentient beings made up of a conglomerate colony of orange symbiotic worms. Their impenetrable armor is actually what holds them together. This has led to speculation that they were created or engineered by the Forerunners. This is also probably the reason that no one has seen Flood Hunter Forms as their lack of a central nervous system makes it impossible for a Flood Infection Form to gain control of their brain. Hunters usually show nothing but opprobrium towards the lesser Covenant races and rarely even communicate with any other race (including the Prophets) apart from the Elites.

Quote from wikipedia

  • 06.18.2006 3:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Redoubt
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Couldn't the radiation from the fuel rod gun play a big part in the Hunter's inability to be taken over? Radiation is what saved Johnson, so isn't it possible that the gun that shoots radiation save the hunters as well?


There's scores of different radiation, and it's incredibly unlikely that the radiation emitted from plasma grenades is the same as the fuel rods. It's possible, though.


You might be a biologist, but you obviously are not a physicist. There are three types of radiation, alpha particles (helium nuclei), beta particles (electrons) and gamma rays (highly energetic electromagnetic waves). Now considering that alpha particles are stopped by a few centimetres of air, and beta particles are stopped by a thin sheet of metal, I would expect that the most likely candidate is gamma radiation.

Besides, hunters cannot be taken over by the flood, due to their worm nature, even if they do have some form of central nervous system. Otherwise you would think we would have seen some hunter flood by now wouldn't you?

  • 06.18.2006 3:35 AM PDT
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And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

In........................................................Out .

The only reason hunters die from infection forms in halo one is that all that the infection forms are doing are stabbing and slicing the worms with their penetrators.

  • 06.18.2006 3:49 AM PDT

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