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Subject: Should there be a counter to Swords?

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Poll: Should there be a counter to Swords?  [closed]
Yes, A Real Dodge or Side Step:  14%
(14 Votes)
Yes, Block with another Sword or Brute Shot:  22%
(21 Votes)
No:  13%
(13 Votes)
Yes, Don't let swords last forever:  29%
(28 Votes)
Nope, you better be good at sticking:  22%
(21 Votes)
Total Votes: 97

I know there's the side step, but it's a real hard move to accomplish and I'm not sure Bungie put it in there of its a bug, but the sword is the only weapon that last forever and kind of seems unbalanced. I would like to see something to counter this weapon.

  • 06.18.2006 1:37 PM PDT
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How about fixing the sword instead of some 'counter'?

  • 06.18.2006 1:38 PM PDT

Its called a shotgun

  • 06.18.2006 1:39 PM PDT
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Oblivion style block.

Some good sword fights could come from that.

  • 06.18.2006 1:39 PM PDT

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I think they should make Jackel shields able to be picked up and counter swords.

  • 06.18.2006 1:39 PM PDT

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How about you just shoot him untill he gives in, drops it and then you can engoy all its glowy goodness.

  • 06.18.2006 1:40 PM PDT
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Well, a block with another sword would be cool, but then you'd have to let the sword block everything else too, which would make it even more stupid then it is now. Some kind of dodge button could work. I vote for Yes, don't let swords last forever, because that about sums it up.

  • 06.18.2006 1:41 PM PDT

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I think the sword is fine and everyone just crys 'cause they get pwn3d by it.
In other words. Practice sword matches.

  • 06.18.2006 1:45 PM PDT
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Id like be able to block but my block would be that ud block with we'll say a rifle and the sword would destroy the weapon and deal a slite amount of damage to you but atleast you'd still be alive

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Well seing as Bungie are planning to include the Jakal shield anyway, I say it should do three things:

1-Counter plasmas, hold down left trigger (cannot use grenades with shield) for a hold foreward block, making those always sticking grenades bounce away.

2-Duel weild with sword (just for fun)

3-Counter swords (but deplete energy in attempt) again using the left trigger.

Whilst in block mode you move slower and whilst running all hits to your left side are deflected. I noticed that people prefer the human sniper to beam rifle (which holds no real advantage over it's 24 magazine cousin) I think that the beam rifle should be able to penetrate the shield whilst the human rifle cannot.

Solution to problems with snipers, plasma grenades, swords and general blocking = Jakal shield.

  • 06.18.2006 1:56 PM PDT

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There should be a sidestep but you have to have sofficent time to pull it off its not like push a button and opps they missed theres got to be some competition if you see a guy lunging at you from 20 feet with vdeath in his hands what the hell would you do

  • 06.18.2006 2:05 PM PDT
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shotgun

  • 06.18.2006 2:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: DjjakDarkBlade
Well seing as Bungie are planning to include the Jakal shield anyway, I say it should do three things:


where did you hear this?

  • 06.18.2006 2:07 PM PDT
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There is another way to combat the sword already.

I was lunging at an SMG opponent with a cry of "he racks up one more kill" and he just hits me just before my sword contacts him...and kills me! He still lives with a retaliation of "shut up."

So it has been done, smack 'em a hope that they die.

Oh, and for the man who asked where I know this...I'm not allowed to say, or the source will get a stomping from his big bosses.

[Edited on 6/18/2006]

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Posted by: Kilwan
Oblivion style block.

Some good sword fights could come from that.


that sounds good, and that makes me feel like playing oblivion

BE BACK LATER ALL WOOOO

  • 06.18.2006 2:11 PM PDT
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I say the range should be shortened to normal melee range for the sword, that would help alot

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Don't let it last forever. Maybe longer than it does in Campaign, but not forever. There would be a lot less complaining about the sword if it ran out of power. Until the day Halo 3 comes, the shotgun is your best bet.

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Posted by: Scott2k44
Its called a shotgun


Exactly.

  • 06.18.2006 2:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Scott2k44
Its called a shotgun

  • 06.18.2006 2:19 PM PDT
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I don't care if it lasts forever, just take that stupid lunge out. Its ridiculously(sp) cheesy...almost as bad as the pp/BR combo. Make it a pure melee weapon only, as it should have been to begin with....lol, a sword with lock on....hilarious

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Posted by: flamedude
Posted by: Scott2k44
Its called a shotgun



Depends on who's host and lag as ta who wins that battle...so for obvious reasons its not the best solution


Unless that make the shotgun as powerful and consistent as the one form Halo:CE. Then i'll take on the sword whor3s any day. Hell, they'll even need that stupid kunge to compete

[Edited on 6/18/2006]

  • 06.18.2006 2:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kilwan
Oblivion style block.

Some good sword fights could come from that.


ya, thats not a bad idea, but i also like the idea of a quick roll, or dodge

  • 06.18.2006 2:33 PM PDT

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there is no way that masterchief could directly block an energy sword.

you could...

1.) grab there arms, or wrists.

2.) just jump back, or "dodge"

3.) use another sword and block it.

because a energy sword would just cut through ANYTHING else.

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Posted by: aplusjimages
I know there's the side step, but it's a real hard move to accomplish and I'm not sure Bungie put it in there of its a bug, but the sword is the only weapon that last forever and kind of seems unbalanced. I would like to see something to counter this weapon.


The sowred is unbalanced with unlimmited life and sowred fights would be a great thing, so when 2 people attack each other both of them don't die.

  • 06.18.2006 3:13 PM PDT
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battery with the sword and something i call the shotgun.

  • 06.18.2006 3:32 PM PDT

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