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Subject: Should there be a counter to Swords?
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im not going to vote cause there is, its the shotgun........shotgun owns sword ! heck, you could just sidestep to the right and dodge it !

  • 06.18.2006 4:15 PM PDT
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That's a good thought.

  • 06.18.2006 4:32 PM PDT

Halo's a hell of a drug.

Someone mentioned somewhere that Jackal shields was definitely in, but I'm not sure where they got that info from

  • 06.19.2006 10:28 AM PDT
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i think there should be 2 ways to stop a sword other than dodging

the plasma shield and proper sword fights - i can picture a real fight going on with plasma swords, like a proper duel with the moves the A.I. elites use

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  • 06.19.2006 10:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kilwan
Oblivion style block.

Some good sword fights could come from that.


Yeah, but then the sniper could just rule both of them from across the map...
but a good idea for swords mode.

  • 06.19.2006 10:45 AM PDT
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i don't think sword fights would work. i mean...how exactly would plasma 'block' plasma? plasma isn't a solid state of matter; its just held in the shape by i think it was some sort of electromagnetic field.
i would like a roll, like the marines and elite AIs can do. maybe even a prone position too. it would make for some interesting new tactics, where one could dodge swords, grenades, or do a quick open door/roll in/clear room sort of thing.

  • 06.19.2006 10:52 AM PDT
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How about another sword? I find that works 50% of the time

  • 06.19.2006 12:33 PM PDT
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Or how about no sword? Think about all the other weapons. Does it fit into game play? No.

  • 06.19.2006 12:36 PM PDT
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i think having actual sword fights may be cool. As for the never run out part, keep your distance and your fine. Up close counter=shotgun. The dodge manuever would make it too easy to avoid making a swordsman an easy kill on the other guys part. I think if you punch at just the right moment with the brute shot, you should be able to some really cool counter kill/attack and it does some cool cinematic of the elite/spartan dong it in 3rd person.

  • 06.19.2006 12:43 PM PDT
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there should be a quick, like DOA style move where when your just about to get hit you can press like a + r(trigger) and you like put your fist out and the sword guy just kinda pwns himself on it, or a cool roll/ dodge like in PDZ

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Posted by: DjjakDarkBlade
There is another way to combat the sword already.

I was lunging at an SMG opponent with a cry of "he racks up one more kill" and he just hits me just before my sword contacts him...and kills me! He still lives with a retaliation of "shut up."

So it has been done, smack 'em a hope that they die.

Oh, and for the man who asked where I know this...I'm not allowed to say, or the source will get a stomping from his big bosses.


Stop spreading rumors, you liar.

The sword just needs some sort of ammo, the shotgun needs to be consistently reliable and the default spawn weapon needs to be more powerful. There's nothing more frustrating than spawning with the sword enemy near you, and knowing there's nothing you can do, except hope your two grenades connect. The SMG is not effective from the distance you need to stay out of the range of the lunge

  • 06.19.2006 12:47 PM PDT
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A cterly, he's right, i have done that many a time before. All you goytta do is time it right and make sure he sword dude has lost a twid bit of life so it's a fatality when you punch him.
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Posted by: DjjakDarkBlade
There is another way to combat the sword already.

I was lunging at an SMG opponent with a cry of "he racks up one more kill" and he just hits me just before my sword contacts him...and kills me! He still lives with a retaliation of "shut up."

So it has been done, smack 'em a hope that they die.

Oh, and for the man who asked where I know this...I'm not allowed to say, or the source will get a stomping from his big bosses.


Stop spreading rumors, you liar.

The sword just needs some sort of ammo, the shotgun needs to be consistently reliable and the default spawn weapon needs to be more powerful. There's nothing more frustrating than spawning with the sword enemy near you, and knowing there's nothing you can do, except hope your two grenades connect. The SMG is not effective from the distance you need to stay out of the range of the lunge

  • 06.19.2006 12:54 PM PDT
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you should just have it where if you melee at the right moment you both get kinda knocked back and you can do something

  • 06.19.2006 12:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scott2k44
Its called a shotgun


So do I! I you time it right, the Shotgun is a great counter for the sword.

  • 06.19.2006 1:01 PM PDT
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There is the shotgun, but it lacks a good rate of fire.

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There's already the shotgun, if you're quick, you can kill the sword-wielder before they hit you.

  • 06.19.2006 1:10 PM PDT
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I am...whimsical today.

The sword is powerful but has a short range. You can easily get someone from across the map with a BR or other long range weapon. If the sword could be countered then it looses its advantage. If it were a short range weapon that was not very effective, then what would be the point of it?

  • 06.19.2006 1:18 PM PDT
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how bout a shield, or the jackal shield

  • 06.19.2006 1:33 PM PDT

Halo's a hell of a drug.

Posted by: combatcarl118
There's already the shotgun, if you're quick, you can kill the sword-wielder before they hit you.


I'm talking about if you get locked on. Does the shotgun counter that?

  • 06.19.2006 1:36 PM PDT

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