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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: Spartan1995324
The entire purpose of the UNSC-Separatist alliance was to beat the Prophets. It was forged out of necessity.
That doesn't mean that they must wage war after the purpose of the alliance is dealt with.
Posted by: Spartan1995324
The Elites aren't a hive mind, some don't mind humans and others hate them. After a decades long war, things are not going to change overnight. The alliance was based on the "enemy of my enemy is my friend concept". Not "hey guys let's be pals". While it IS TRUE that some Elites don't mind humans, I don't think there are too many. Even during the end of the war, it seemed like Humans and Elites operated separately. During the level "the Covenant" there were three towers and three teams. One team was ALL Elites. They probably didn't feel comfortable directly working with humans just yet.
I think that most Elites (I.e. The ones living on Sanghelios and throughout the colonies not really in any sort of direct contact with the war) would likely have been indifferent towards Humanity even when the war was being raged, as in having no strong opinion about them. Kershaw once said that the road to Auschwitz was built with hatred but paved with indifference. Very little people in the general populace either cared or cared enough to say or do something about it. They are only being told to hate someone who they don't know in any way, and who have no impact on them in their everyday lives whatsoever. Additionally, these people can only really go along with the authorities and thus the crowd, so there isn't really much incentive for choice in the matter. There's not even any prior reasoning or build up to the H-C war like there was for something like the Holocaust though, however flawed it was. The Jews were the subject of vile propaganda and were used as scapegoats for years before WWII. With the H-C the Prophets literally just announced one day "Kill Humans". That's it. They just dropped it on the Covenant populace. This is also ignoring the spreading influence of those who had fought Humans and questioned the war's very nature because of that, and those who got sick of it dragging out for vague and unclear reasons without any sort of substantial proof other than the word of 3 people.
Yet, most Elites are frothing at the mouth village idiots who HATE Humans. I'm sorry, but given the circumstances of the Human-Covenant war, I find that slightly ridiculous, especially for a race as smart as the Elites.
Posted by: Spartan1995324
Hell the Soviet Union and the USA had tense relations and they were allies against N@zi Germany. You could see the UNSC as the USA, the Separatists as the Soviet Union, and the Covenant Loyalists as N@zi Germany. Only reason Russia and the USA didn't go into a full out war was because each side needed time to rebuild (sounds like Earth and Sanghelios). However the Soviet Union eventually collapsed, which may or may not happen with the Sangheili (they are all warriors, they don't have many engineers, farmers, doctors, etc).
I'm curious, but in what way are the factors that lead to the Cold War similar to the situation that we have post Halo 3?
1) No but it wasn't built the intention is being friends.
2) I think the Elites as you said don't care enough. While I do find the Xenophobic attitude strange (they don't seem to be in quite a hurry to elminate the Brutes) it is the situation we have to deal with.
It SHOULDN'T be that way, but it is. The fact now is that the Elites seem to be listening to these individuals who hate humans, for whatever reason. The entire Covenant-Human war was started because of a hatred of humans. I don't see why they are making the same mistake twice, but the fact is they are.
3) The Cold War analogy was a bad one. The only parallels to draw from that is how the UNSC and the Separatists joined forces to defeat the Covenant Loyalists. Much like how the USA and the Soviet Union were allies against N@zi Germany.
Then relations between the Soviet Union and the USA became tense, much like how the UNSC and Elites now have tense relations.