Posted by: True Underdog
all it does is deter new members from posting in a community that they're obviously excited about, while simultaneously feeding the egos of some of the lifers here.I disagree with you. I don't think it's a matter of new members posting threads they're excited about- in fact I think that's almost totally irrelevant in this case. New members can post threads that are stupid. Yet they won't be called out for it. Why? They're new! That's OK. People make mistakes.
... But when you've been here. And you are making deliberately ridiculous threads? There needs to be SOME line for the sake of the community in general and the user's future as well. The moderators can't draw the line. The posts/ threads are within the rules, and I wouldn't expect you to act on them. Us normal people are the ones that draw those lines between stupid, new, normal, and awesome in the public eye.
Though we could argue about this all day long and neither of us would change our stance, this is just my two cents.Well I feel that being open to opposing opinions is important when having a discussion. I've changed my mind in arguments before. It just doesn't happen often. To have a proper argument/discussion, I think you need to be open minded about the other side. Being set in 'I won't change my mind' doesn't quite do that.
And, after all, as long as nobody is attacking the other person I think we'll be alright, neh?
Posted by: x Foman123 x
Hang on, burrito; I think you need to recheck your position on this issue.It's OK. I saw the pre-edit. I take no offense. I'm sorry you feel that way, but if it makes you feel better I'm not deliberately being difficult in the 'Mythics Rock' character I'm so fond of. I do honestly believe this.
You acknowledge that ignoring a thread you don't like is the right thing to do, but then, somehow, you go on to justify why you continue to post in threads you don't like.
No. I acknowledge that it is the right thing to TRY. But history has shown it does not WORK. Time has shown that these people do get it in their heads that it's silly once told so enough though. Don't we all remember the raad face, raaascal, and spartain ken threads being posted a half dozen times a day it seemed? Some of them got pretty silly. It wasn't the quantity that was irritating. It was that there was such a quantity of threads with such little quality. In the end it all comes down to quality- I think that is what it's all about.
That is why I feel people, eventually, must resort to actually taking some sort of action. In light of the thread that broke the camel's back, I am Batman.
Achronos favors a "forum filter" idea precisely because ignoring a bad thread is the right way to respond to it.I disagree. Rather, I see its purpose as something along the lines of... The forum filter should be implemented because people like me ignoring it on its own does NOT work. Ignoring the threads does NOT reduce the threads of such low quality we see. If EVERYBODY ignored? Then yes, it would be better because people really WOULD give up. But we know that won't ever happen. As such, these threads persist no matter if some of us did honestly try ignoring the silly threads. This is the point where people take action into their own hands I believe.
The report button is an already-implemented feature that is meant to accomplish this purpose.No immediate visual sense of relief hurts this one. Though if you guys are capable of seeing what threads a user has reported, I think you'd find a fair number of posts in my 'report history.' I use it.
If the best way to deal with a bad thread were to post to ridicule the OP and his ideas, Achronos would be looking at automated ways to ridicule the OP and his ideas. Not automated ways to ignore a bad post or a bad user. How do you not see this?The best way would be for EVERYBODY to ignore it or to make it so we never have to see it (without resorting to lessening our own sense of enjoyment after all these years by leaving the forum, something I have no intention of doing). As this is not the case, we have to take the next best thing- getting the user to simply stop on his own.
Your opinions are your ownWell that's just, like, your opinion, man.
to a person who has created a thread on something they find interesting, your opinions are worthless.Well they wouldn't make the thread if the input of others was worthless in their eyes I think. But I digress. If they genuinely find it interesting, I think others would too. But somethings like what we've been seeing? Do you really think that much thought and interest is placed in the subject on their part? It isn't like there is some grey area for attacking a thread. If you aren't sure, you don't call it out. It's that simple. But for truly, completely obvious ones? Oh yeah. All over it.