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Subject: Shouldn't we read "Ghosts of Coral" before we debate?
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With all of this talk about other Spartans getting out of hand, should we not focus on Eric Nylund's new masterpiece that is due in October?

The way I see it in the book:

Kelly-087 and Dr. Halsey survive any possible hostilities on Coral, the rest of the Spartans are still fighting in southeastern Africa, and Kelly's SPARTAN-III Strike Force shuttles back to Earth in urgency.

High possibility that the Spartans will be in Halo 3.

All of the Spartans die.

They won't be in Halo 3.

It's as simple as that, to an extent, post your thoughts.

DISCLAIMER: This is for an intelligent conversation only, post your thoughts and proper evidence to back up an argument.

  • 06.18.2006 6:38 PM PDT
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Yeah, I agree- I'm holding off judgment about whether or not I think they will be in Halo 3 until after I read the book. Right now, of course I WANT them to be in Halo 3 (a co-op campaign with unique missions would be AMAZING with 4 spartans), but we can hold off any kind of assertions until the books come out. And even then, it's not a sure deal- Bungie may just decide not to use them because it would be too confusing or hurtful to the overall story.

  • 06.18.2006 6:40 PM PDT
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Yes, waiting for the book would be smart. Then again, how many smart people do you know on these forums?

  • 06.18.2006 6:40 PM PDT
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Uhhh....

Good point.

*cookies for you, Prophate*

  • 06.18.2006 6:42 PM PDT
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I concur with the poster. People should not be arguing over whether they will be in or not. They can theorise on who should be in, but the debate over them being included should be postponned until after Ghosts of Coral.

By the way, does anyone know the release date of Ghosts of Coral?

  • 06.18.2006 6:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: einx359
I concur with the poster. People should not be arguing over whether they will be in or not. They can theorise on who should be in, but the debate over them being included should be postponned until after Ghosts of Coral.

By the way, does anyone know the release date of Ghosts of Coral?
October 31st, I think.

  • 06.18.2006 6:45 PM PDT
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Halloween, 2006.

EDIT: Eeeep, that sounds pretty creepy.

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  • 06.18.2006 6:45 PM PDT
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like i've said before, i've never read the books. But... in my past expieriances, the books have never been like the movies, so i suppose the same must apply for the games.

  • 06.18.2006 6:46 PM PDT

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I think the SPARTANs will regroup in Space and go in for a final Strike on Earth, It's very possible that the SPARTANs on the Ascendant Justice stayed on Coral to defend the Forerunner Artifact discussed in the Conversations of the Universe (if that's where th structure is located), and they meet up around Earth when John returns..

My original thread in the main forums is here, please contribute there as well so it will stay alive =D


So...everyone with the Halo 2 strategy guide, go through to the back of the book till you reach the "Extras" Section. Look at the two-page picture of the Chief looking out of the Pelican in outerspace in upgraded MJOLNIR armor...Look at the Pelican in the back.

9 Figures are jumping out into Space, but are these regular ODSTs? ODSTs jump in Drop pods. Also, Marines don't wear armor similar to the MJOLNIR that would protect them from entering the Earth's atmosphere...do they?

Here is the image:

http://bungie.com/SlideShow.aspx?Path=/games/Halo2&Slide show=PrintArt&Slide=0


Does anyone recall the number of SPARTANs alive?

1. John
2. Linda
3. Kelly
4. Fred
5. Will
6. Cassandra (From the Halo 2 extra booklet)
7. unnamed, too far to be recalled to the Front Lines
8. unnamed, too far to be recalled to the Front Lines
9. unnamed, too far to be recalled to the Front Lines
10. James, MIA in UNSC controlled space during REACH invasion


That makes 10...Master Chief is in the front, and there are 9 in the back...what do you guys think?

  • 06.18.2006 6:49 PM PDT
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well it could be confusing the overall story for people who havent read the books... but if you look at the conversations from the universe booklet that came with the Halo 2 collector's edition... on the last page there is a letter written to John 117 from Cassandra (apparently a Spartan undergoing rehabilitation)... so they have technically introduced the idea of other Spartans being alive to the people who have not read the books at all

  • 06.18.2006 6:51 PM PDT
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MLG, no offense, but isn't it against the rules to cross post like this?

And the fact that there are more Spartans is not the point of this topic, everyone worth their salt knows that there are other Spartans still on active duty, but most are too ignorant or cannot read.

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I've been around these parts for almost eight years now...wow! Maybe I should be concerned about that...

Coral is Gone.

  • 06.18.2006 6:56 PM PDT

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Hushark, sorry I thought it was cross posting a new thread between Forums =( ignore what I wrote before..

Posted by: Darkness Howls
C oral is Gone.

ilovebees is confirmed not to be canon to the Halo universe.

  • 06.18.2006 7:06 PM PDT
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In all likelyhood, that probably means that Kelly is either dead or retreated just in the nick of time.

  • 06.18.2006 7:07 PM PDT
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I've been around these parts for almost eight years now...wow! Maybe I should be concerned about that...

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Darkness Howls
C oral is Gone.

ilovebees is confirmed not to be canon to the Halo universe.
Who confirmed this and when? Could you provide a quote or link? I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just I've never heard that...

  • 06.18.2006 7:08 PM PDT

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I'll look for a link and a quote.

  • 06.18.2006 7:09 PM PDT

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Posted by:Anton P. Nym
Fan site. Enjoy, but it's not canon. *NM*

  • 06.18.2006 7:12 PM PDT
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That audio file did not come from 7th War.

It came from I Love Bees.

  • 06.18.2006 7:19 PM PDT

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Okay, I saw somewhere on these forums that ilovebees isn't canon, I'll PM Shishka about it.

  • 06.18.2006 7:22 PM PDT

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Space for Rent

I hope hes not going the other way and making the book based off the arbiter.

  • 06.18.2006 7:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: CPO Fraser
I hope hes not going the other way and making the book based off the arbiter.

....That would be horrible..

  • 06.18.2006 7:26 PM PDT

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Space for Rent

I wouldn't buy it.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
9 Figures are jumping out into Space, but are these regular ODSTs? ODSTs jump in Drop pods. Also, Marines don't wear armor similar to the MJOLNIR that would protect them from entering the Earth's atmosphere...do they?


How do you know that they are jumping from outside the atmosphere? It could be that they're HALO (High Altitude Low Observance) jumping. Why do i suggest this? Look at the Warthog that's with them, it has a parachute that's already deployed, neither Warthogs nor parachutes could make it through the atmosphere, nor do you need a parachute in space to air brake objects.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
9 Figures are jumping out into Space, but are these regular ODSTs? ODSTs jump in Drop pods. Also, Marines don't wear armor similar to the MJOLNIR that would protect them from entering the Earth's atmosphere...do they?


How do you know that they are jumping from outside the atmosphere? It could be that they're HALO (High Altitude Low Observance) jumping. Why do i suggest this? Look at the Warthog that's with them, it has a parachute that's already deployed, neither Warthogs nor parachutes could make it through the atmosphere, nor do you need a parachute in space to air brake objects.

Just look how high they are, that's outer space.

  • 06.18.2006 8:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Just look how high they are, that's outer space.


That still doesn't answer the part about the parachutes. How is nylon cloth going to make through the atmosphere? It can't, because they're inside the atmosphere jumping from a high altitude six to twenty miles above sea level. Also, one does not "jump" or "fall" in space.

  • 06.18.2006 8:07 PM PDT

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