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Poll: do you think online halo is getting to be racial?  [closed]
yes:  30%
(25 Votes)
no:  10%
(8 Votes)
i havent noticed anything:  20%
(17 Votes)
sort of:  34%
(28 Votes)
i dont even have halo pc:  6%
(5 Votes)
Total Votes: 83

PLEASE READ WHOLE THING BEFOR JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS!!!
AND PLEASE COMMENT ON WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT!

the last few times ive played halo pc or customedition ive seen some racist games
like last week, i had a friend over and it was late and we were playing halo, we were looking for a game to join then suddenly we saw a server named "IBEAT(racial term for african americans)" witch pissed the hell out of me, i mean, im (half) white yeah, but come on, since when is halo a game of race? so i went kind of under cover into it, and the people there were exactly what the server said, they chanted "K K K IS HERE TO STAY" and "WHITE POWER WORLD WIDE" and then i went loose on them, telling them how wrong they were, then they said im a -blam!- lovin bastard and im goin to hell for it, by then i was really pissed, so i pushed F1 to see who was running it, and to my surprise it was a dedicated server! a dedicated server for racism!?!?! it eventually shut down but seriously, racism and halo dont mix!
then the day after that i decided to play custom edition, and i was looking for a server to join and then i saw some clan tryouts, i was reading the clan names until one caught my eye, it was the "|K K K| clan tryouts" and remembering the about an hour long arguement from the night befor, i didnt even join, it just made me sick seeing one of my favorite games start to turn into a game of race and color
and i would have posted this last week if i wasnt blacklisted for posting an off topic topic, but thats alright, i was wrong to do that, and i learned from my mistake
but what do you think? do you think online halo is getting to be racial?

[Edited on 6/18/2006]

  • 06.18.2006 11:09 PM PDT
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no i dont mean the story line is racist

and i find a using a screen name of F&*# N#*&%@!$ and iBEATN*&%#@$ really sick and messed up, and that dont happen to me, usually when i get pissed i do better cause to me virtual killing releaves stress, and i seem to aim a little bit better under stress

and youd had to have joined the server to see what i mean an african american joined and they didnt seem to be using racism as a tactic, they were full blown racist

[Edited on 6/18/2006]

  • 06.18.2006 11:33 PM PDT
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racism doesnt exist. what world do you live in dude?

Yes I think time to time on halo you can see some things about race and it gets me hot under the old neck tie as well. A lot of the time when I see people flaming one another on the game a common response in there fight is, "You (racial term used) loving basterd."

The best thing is to just let them go off and do there own thing and be as twisted as they like, karma well eventually catch up to them.


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  • 06.18.2006 11:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wildkyle1990

karma well eventually catch up to them.

true, sorta like on My Name is Earl, thats a great show

but yeah i dont make a habbit of flaming people who flame other people because of race, i just did that one night because it was the most racism id ever seen on the game

and omnios i live in the south in what used to be one of the biggest racist cities, and my late 98 year old great grandpa wasnt racist, and trust me THEY WERENT POSERS AND THEY DO EXIST!(i dont mean to flame) seriously if you look at the servers really late at night theres a slight chance youll see a racist one

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  • 06.18.2006 11:57 PM PDT
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Well I am sorry to say but tell that to the teenagers back in the day who would murder people of the African American race. It's a bit naive to think that people of a younger age are not and are incapable of being racist. In no way dose this only apply to the south but the entire country and world. But hey that’s you opinion and you are entitled to it, so this was just the note i wished to finish on.

(Just finished with the civil rights portion in U.S History before school got out; hey I learned something)

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  • 06.18.2006 11:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wildkyle1990
Well I am sorry to say but tell that to the teenagers back in the day who would murder people of the African American race. It's a bit naive to think that people of a younger age are not and are incapable of being racist. In no way dose this only apply to the south but the entire country and world. But hey that’s you opinion and you are entitled to it, so this was just the note i wished to finish on.


what do you mean by "native" im half native and i was just wondering if you mean that kinda racialy (sorry, racism is a big deal to me)

  • 06.19.2006 12:02 AM PDT
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lol read it again then look up the definition. not native but "naive"

  • 06.19.2006 12:04 AM PDT
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Well, they have won, you have lost.

Because you reacted to it.

Do you think they would bother if no-one reacted? Doesnt matter if they are racist or not, either way they are worth ignoring. Or if Im bored, I take the piss out of them. Every race, colour has some impressive figurehead currently or in history. And its funny to see these racists try to say they are [insert retarded swearing insults here], when they could never be half the person they are taking the mick out of.

And dont get so wolly about racists. Just because someone says 'native' (which he didnt) doesnt mean they are being racist.

Thats like me saying most people that are native to india, are coloured. And some moron calling me racist.

Lighten up.

  • 06.19.2006 1:29 AM PDT

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On Live, there's the option of sending feedback in-game. However that's administered by Live so I don't see that option coming to the PC version. I honestly don't know what the PC game will have for that.

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  • 06.19.2006 5:47 AM PDT

People just do that kind of thing becuase the following crosses their mind: "Whoa, it's the internet"

  • 06.19.2006 6:03 AM PDT

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For me, it used to be more racist. I play on the Maw server, TUI and CoG and other servers where they don't put up with that crap, so now I hardly see it.

Any time an enemy spends typing insults is time he's not shooting me. Insult away.

  • 06.19.2006 6:17 AM PDT
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Every online multiplayer of a game is gonna have racism; the worst is in Halo PC. I am trying to make a DS for a clan I made, and my first member told me that a player joined and the player was getting beat a lot. So, she called him the n-word and left. If the guy stayed on long enough, he would get a BANana. But, you'll always get racism in a game and the worst seem to be in FPS games.

  • 06.19.2006 6:18 AM PDT
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The internet, let alone online gaming, is full of racist, ignorant retards. Let's face it. Some games have less jerks than others, like EverQuest compared to Diablo II.

Simply because they think "OMG I CAN BE THE BIGGEST -blam!- IN THE WORLD SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST, LAST, AND ONLY TIME I'M EVER GOING TO MEET THESE PEOPLE SO I'M GOING TO BE AN ASSWIPE AS MUCH AS I CAN BECAUSE I LIVE OFF OF MAKING PEOPLE MISERABLE!!!!!!!!!!"

You ever see people like that on my server, they're going to get kicked their asses from my server so fast that they're going to think somebody raped them in their sleep.

  • 06.19.2006 7:52 AM PDT
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Well its not against any laws so who cares? If they hate something, then they hate something. It isnt your place to try to tell them to not believe in something. For instance, I hate stupid people. I dont know why I hate stupid people, I just do. And nobody can make me feel otherwise so its pretty pointless to try. Just leave them be.

  • 06.19.2006 8:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: new420
Well its not against any laws so who cares?

I do, Cletus. And it is against the law by the way, in many jurisdictions: look up "harassment" . It's also against the terms of use for xbox live though I don't know if that will carry over into Halo 2 P. C. .

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  • 06.19.2006 8:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Anton P Nym
-- Steven may not be able to make these jerks change their minds, but he can make them shut up or leave .


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  • 06.19.2006 8:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: OmniosSpartan
duh its a tactic break your opponent, piss them off they play bad, they make mistakes you win, racism doesnt exist.


Trash-talking is a strategy. Racism is racism.

and Halo is all about racism the covenant are cleansing the universe of human, sounds racial to me :/

Halo isn't about racism. It isn't about ethnic cleansing either. It's more 'specism', hatred of one particular species. (ie., the Covies hate us, so they try to exterminate us.)

  • 06.19.2006 8:32 AM PDT
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"Specism"? I think interspecies predjudice would be a more apt term. Like termites and ants. If termites had a massive armada of starships and the capability to glass the surface of planets from orbit.

  • 06.19.2006 8:36 AM PDT
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If Halo was a racist game, then you'd hear GTA words in every sentence. <_< Second, Sgt. Johnson is an important character apart from the MC and the guy is black. Third, many parts of the Halo trilogy start on a ring world or Africa. If Halo was racism, then Sgt. Johnson would be white.

  • 06.19.2006 8:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
"Specism"? I think interspecies predjudice would be a more apt term. Like termites and ants. If termites had a massive armada of starships and the capability to glass the surface of planets from orbit.


Whoops, I spelled it way wrong. D'oh!

Yep, Speciesism

Paraphrased from wikipedia.org:

Speciesism involves assigning different values or rights to beings on the basis of their species. The term was coined by Richard D. Ryder in 1970 and is used to denote prejudice similar in kind to sexism and racism. The term has not entered everyday language. Speciesism can be defined as a prejudice against taking the interests of members of other species into equal consideration based on the idea that all members of one's own species are more valuable than all members of other species, no matter what characteristics individuals might possess.

Yep, that sounds like the Covies view of us to me!

Speciesism is a popular theme in science fiction, referring to a prejudice against other intelligent species, equivalent to racism. For example, during the reign of the Galactic Empire in Star Wars, many alien species were oppressed by the ruling government, which consisted mainly of humans. In this context, it is sometimes referred to as xenophobia.

What, no Halo mention in WIkipedia!?!? Heresy!

  • 06.19.2006 8:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: new420
Well its not against any laws so who cares? If they hate something, then they hate something. It isnt your place to try to tell them to not believe in something. For instance, I hate stupid people. I dont know why I hate stupid people, I just do. And nobody can make me feel otherwise so its pretty pointless to try. Just leave them be.


Go and call a black police officer a certain N word then. See what happens.

  • 06.19.2006 9:02 AM PDT

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BTW, how does anybody determine the race of another player? All is see is red or blue.

  • 06.19.2006 9:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: SimonJester753
BTW, how does anybody determine the race of another player? All is see is red or blue.

Thats if u have a good grafic card and if its team, if you dont have a good grafic card then all you see is gray people (I know) and if your in ffa its what ever color of armor they want. But your right you cant really determan the race of another player.

  • 06.19.2006 9:28 AM PDT