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Subject: Is 16 enough for muliplayer?

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
many a night ive spent fantasizing about 64 v 64 when i should have been fantasizing about women

Have you ever heard of a little thing called lag?

  • 06.19.2006 12:45 PM PDT

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To the original poster, the 360 has almost no effect on how many for XBL. The problem is the servers. If we get dedicated servers, then we should have at least 34, but if not, then stick with 16.

  • 06.19.2006 12:48 PM PDT
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I think 24 is a good number. It would be awesome because you would have 12 people per team and you could make squads different waya: 2 sets of 6, 3 sets of 4, 4 sets of 3, or 6 sets of 2. It is the perfect number for multiplayer. It is more than the maximum now, but still within the capabilities of the 360. If it took an extra 6 months, I would wait because this decision complettely changes the way multiplayer will be played and make the game much more interesting in my opinion.

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  • 06.19.2006 12:50 PM PDT
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I personally think that more people would be better. There would be more vehicular combat and squad tactics available. But then again, we have bungie's lagtacular system that hooks the slow people up with the fast people. But, what i think bungie should do most of all is:

put and armory in! This would be such a cool armory, listen to this! There are BRs and Plasma pistols! They line the walls! I bet this will be Halo 3s title:

Halo 3: Combo wars!

  • 06.19.2006 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: AndrewLC
Have you ever heard of a little thing called lag?


Doesn't PC gamers already play games where there are like more than 50 people on the screen at once? If so, then we should be fine because we would be using the same pipeline to transfer the data. I think the xbox prevented more than 16 people before, but with the suped up 360 we should be good.

  • 06.19.2006 1:18 PM PDT
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Ah, yes, because the BTB playlists were so temendously popular that Bungie had to remove them because the sheer multitude of games played were frying Bungie's servers...

Cough.

16 player games rarely get played anyway. Even when I played, we usually had difficulty getting past 10. Sixteen is fine. Any more, and we just get lag. And when we did get that many, the host always (ALWAYS) picked Lockout, which sucks with that many people.

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  • 06.19.2006 1:21 PM PDT
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The Holy Taco said:

Think about the Halo 2 crowd in matchmaking, can you honestly see yourself communicating with them well enough to fly pelicans to landing zones?

aww jeez i can only IMAGINE!!!! (allow me to commentate)

* OHHH look at the pelican, get in everyone, load it up, im flying. HEY, GET OUT, I SAID IM FLYING. get out you nub. OUT!!!! *betrayal* OK LOAD IT UP. you eight go in the hog's and the rest with me........WHERE ARE YOU GUYS GOING??? we have hogs and a peli, WHY WONT ANYONE GRAB THE BOMB?? grab it. come on, you six *betrayal. betrayal. betrayal.* WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS, NOW WE ONLY HAVE 12 PPL. hey nobody quit. just get the bomb. *loads up pelican* OHHHHH LOOK AT THESE 1337 flying skillz!!! OH CRAP ROCKETS! OHHHHH, DODGED.......OHHHHH.....SPLATTER!!!!! HEY THERE ARE MORE ROCKETS! they have our rocks they have our-.....................WTF, WHO was supposed to rush rocks? *betrayal. betrayal.betrayal.* THERE'S A GUY JUST STANDING THERE.....WTF?? *betrayal* aw crap here comes spawn -blam!-......*2 mins later: Round over.......Defense.* ALRIGHT LEMME GET ROCKETS.........why arent you guys moving? *teammate quit. teammate quit.* WTF??? Its freakin 5 vs. 16?? crap here comes pelican..........OHHHHHH ROCKETS...........OHHHHHH KILLTACULAR WITH ROCKS!! owned nub!!! *sniped* WTF? whats going on? THEYRE ARMING, THEYRE ARMING!!!!!!!!!!!!! *bomb armed. bomb planted. game over*


i garauntee this is what 16 v 16 (most likely the new Big team) will be like...........man i cant wait!!!

  • 06.19.2006 1:28 PM PDT
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No! Need bigger battles. 64 a team! Hell yah!

  • 06.20.2006 6:39 PM PDT

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For the Halo series, and purposes of lag issues, 16 is the perfect number.

  • 06.20.2006 6:40 PM PDT
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Why isn't "Hellz No!" an options. The more the crazier. Crazy = fun

  • 06.20.2006 6:53 PM PDT
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It is hard enough to get people to work together in MM as it is. I have played various games on the PC and games with alot of people there is no teamwork just people running around doing their own thing. You could say that that they are PC games and most people don't have a mic, but look at Battlefield for the 360. People don't even work together in 4v4.

  • 06.20.2006 7:01 PM PDT
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24, at most. Halo isn't meant to be huge scale, at least in multiplayer.

  • 06.20.2006 7:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Foehammer 0443
No! Need bigger battles. 64 a team! Hell yah!

That might be the most retarded idea I've ever heard.

It's just impossible. It would suck.

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  • 06.20.2006 7:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: AndrewLC
Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
many a night ive spent fantasizing about 64 v 64 when i should have been fantasizing about women

Have you ever heard of a little thing called lag?

Wow...Iceman, you're not supposed to admit you'd rather play Halo than play with women...that's just not cool.

  • 06.20.2006 7:05 PM PDT
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I want 50 players. With giant maps and tons of vehicles.

There should be maps like 10 or more times the size of coagulation. There should be multiple ways of getting to places. You could take undergruond tunnels or take paths in the mountains high above everyone else. At each base there should be garrages full of vehicles and two pelicens outside each base. For the infentry there should be a room with like 5 teleporters that can take you to different points on the map. Each teams portals would take you to the same place. You would have to open up each portal individually and only the team that opens them can use them. So at the begining of the match the teams would race to open the portals before the other team does. The bases would be huge like 5 times the size of the bases at containment. There would be multipule ways to get into each base so it would be harder to protect.

  • 06.20.2006 7:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Holy Taco
Although this would be cool, if they pulled it off, not only would we be waiting until 2009, but their would also be gameplay problem. Think about the Halo 2 crowd in matchmaking, can you honestly see yourself communicating with them well enough to fly pelicans to landing zones? Also Bungie would have to have different channels for the teammates to talk on because 32 voices at once it far too many. I honestly think that that will take away from the game because it will be more about getting to where you fight then actually fighting. Sure you could have a game wih 31 of your friends and play other people, but how often is that going tto happen. Also think about those less fortunate game owners. They will have lag coming out of holes they didn't even know about. This idea sounds good at first, until you think about the details.


I would divide them into sub teams, each squad leader coomunicates with the other.

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  • 06.20.2006 7:15 PM PDT
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Well yes (its what i voted) but, i guess it would be fun, to have more people on larger maps, but with the current ones we shouldn't go over 20 players there too small for that. Exept maybe for machinima, cause red vs blue would be hella funny to see 64 gruntidute jumping around. but if we had larger maps no problem. except vehicles would need to respawn faster for the guys that die every 2 secs, and what about spawn camping. even though you could probably support it doesnt mean you should. What if someone H@x it they could make a rocket sniper guass, warthog. we should just get an MMO for this type of Halo. I would be an covanent.

  • 06.20.2006 7:21 PM PDT
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wow 32 vs 32 mabey lag but IT WOULD BE TOTALLY AWSOME

mabey even a BIGGER map like in space where u can pilot longwords and carriers XD

any way i totally agree with u 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999%

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  • 06.20.2006 7:24 PM PDT
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Until Xbox live uses their own dedicated servers to host, 16 is just the right amount, maybe too much...

  • 06.20.2006 7:25 PM PDT
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No. It's not enough. After looking at the scale of the trailer, they HAVE to make bigger games.

  • 06.20.2006 7:26 PM PDT

Halo's a hell of a drug.

Let Halo evolve and not be the same old Halo. More is a step in evolution.

  • 06.20.2006 7:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
The Holy Taco said:

Think about the Halo 2 crowd in matchmaking, can you honestly see yourself communicating with them well enough to fly pelicans to landing zones?

aww jeez i can only IMAGINE!!!! (allow me to commentate)

* OHHH look at the pelican, get in everyone, load it up, im flying. HEY, GET OUT, I SAID IM FLYING. get out you nub. OUT!!!! *betrayal* OK LOAD IT UP. you eight go in the hog's and the rest with me........WHERE ARE YOU GUYS GOING??? we have hogs and a peli, WHY WONT ANYONE GRAB THE BOMB?? grab it. come on, you six *betrayal. betrayal. betrayal.* WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS, NOW WE ONLY HAVE 12 PPL. hey nobody quit. just get the bomb. *loads up pelican* OHHHHH LOOK AT THESE 1337 flying skillz!!! OH CRAP ROCKETS! OHHHHH, DODGED.......OHHHHH.....SPLATTER!!!!! HEY THERE ARE MORE ROCKETS! they have our rocks they have our-.....................WTF, WHO was supposed to rush rocks? *betrayal. betrayal.betrayal.* THERE'S A GUY JUST STANDING THERE.....WTF?? *betrayal* aw crap here comes spawn -blam!-......*2 mins later: Round over.......Defense.* ALRIGHT LEMME GET ROCKETS.........why arent you guys moving? *teammate quit. teammate quit.* WTF??? Its freakin 5 vs. 16?? crap here comes pelican..........OHHHHHH ROCKETS...........OHHHHHH KILLTACULAR WITH ROCKS!! owned nub!!! *sniped* WTF? whats going on? THEYRE ARMING, THEYRE ARMING!!!!!!!!!!!!! *bomb armed. bomb planted. game over*


i garauntee this is what 16 v 16 (most likely the new Big team) will be like...........man i cant wait!!!


Rofl that was good and funny and probably totally true.

Anyways I hope they use dedicated servers for matchmaking and regular halo 2 hosts for customs. That way we wont get cheated in matchmaking and we can have big lag free battles. 50 vs 50 would be awesome, but 32vs32 is fine as well. Last halo game they might as well go all out? This isn't time to leave anything out.

  • 06.20.2006 7:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
The Holy Taco said:

Think about the Halo 2 crowd in matchmaking, can you honestly see yourself communicating with them well enough to fly pelicans to landing zones?

aww jeez i can only IMAGINE!!!! (allow me to commentate)

* OHHH look at the pelican, get in everyone, load it up, im flying. HEY, GET OUT, I SAID IM FLYING. get out you nub. OUT!!!! *betrayal* OK LOAD IT UP. you eight go in the hog's and the rest with me........WHERE ARE YOU GUYS GOING??? we have hogs and a peli, WHY WONT ANYONE GRAB THE BOMB?? grab it. come on, you six *betrayal. betrayal. betrayal.* WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS, NOW WE ONLY HAVE 12 PPL. hey nobody quit. just get the bomb. *loads up pelican* OHHHHH LOOK AT THESE 1337 flying skillz!!! OH CRAP ROCKETS! OHHHHH, DODGED.......OHHHHH.....SPLATTER!!!!! HEY THERE ARE MORE ROCKETS! they have our rocks they have our-.....................WTF, WHO was supposed to rush rocks? *betrayal. betrayal.betrayal.* THERE'S A GUY JUST STANDING THERE.....WTF?? *betrayal* aw crap here comes spawn -blam!-......*2 mins later: Round over.......Defense.* ALRIGHT LEMME GET ROCKETS.........why arent you guys moving? *teammate quit. teammate quit.* WTF??? Its freakin 5 vs. 16?? crap here comes pelican..........OHHHHHH ROCKETS...........OHHHHHH KILLTACULAR WITH ROCKS!! owned nub!!! *sniped* WTF? whats going on? THEYRE ARMING, THEYRE ARMING!!!!!!!!!!!!! *bomb armed. bomb planted. game over*


i garauntee this is what 16 v 16 (most likely the new Big team) will be like...........man i cant wait!!!

Now, imagine 64 vs. 64...

  • 06.21.2006 2:25 PM PDT

Just a remider to all of you:

The number or players is not limited by the console (not with how strong they are), they are limited by the BANDWITDH of your connection.

You can fit more players, but you'd have to reduce the amount of info, meaing less graphics.

It's much more complex than that, but it's enough.

  • 06.21.2006 2:31 PM PDT

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No, i think between 24-32 would be more reasonable for Halo 3.

  • 06.21.2006 2:35 PM PDT

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