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So as well all know, Hunters are immune to the Flood because there is not central nervous system.

So I have two questions.

1) Does that make Scarabs immune as well? Assuming the Flood get to the fleshy part.
2) Can individual Lekgolo worms be infected? And if so, can the Flood create an "infected hunter" by joining infected worms?

  • 08.15.2012 1:58 PM PDT
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I think I'll try to butt in here, lore-master, with a little bit of logic. Granted I haven't read the books, but going by your post it seems logical to assume that Scarabs cannot be infected, as the fleshy part would be the same as the fleshy part for hunters.

As for the worms, it would depend on whether the worms have central nervous systems. I'm pretty sure no infected grunts appear in halo, probably because they're too small, so it would make sense to assume worms would be even lower priority.

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Posted by: CoderKlux
I'm pretty sure no infected grunts appear in halo, probably because they're too small, so it would make sense to assume worms would be even lower priority.

Grunts and Jackels are deemed too small for combat forms so they get turned into carrier forms. (The big ones that go *pop*).

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Posted by: CoderKlux
I'm pretty sure no infected grunts appear in halo, probably because they're too small, so it would make sense to assume worms would be even lower priority.

Grunts and Jackels are deemed too small for combat forms so they get turned into carrier forms. (The big ones that go *pop*).


Only if there is better combat form hosts around.

Halo wars showed grunt and jackal combat forms, so it is possible.

Or, another way of describing it is grunt and jackal combat forms get damaged quicker, and thus mutate into carrier forms sooner.

As for the hunter worms? They don't have spines as I know, which is the main thing. So hunters are pretty much immune to the flood in general.

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Lekgolo work on a composite intelligence. The more that are together, more intelligent and self aware it becomes. A single worm can't really be infected because it has no central nervous system. I guess you can say the intelligence comes from hormone/pheromone based connection, which makes it impossible to infect and control.

I'd be like trying to infect trees or plants that communicate with each other through pheromones or spores passed on by the wind or by bugs.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Only if there is better combat form hosts around.

Halo wars showed grunt and jackal combat forms, so it is possible.

Or, another way of describing it is grunt and jackal combat forms get damaged quicker, and thus mutate into carrier forms sooner.

As for the hunter worms? They don't have spines as I know, which is the main thing. So hunters are pretty much immune to the flood in general.


Halo Wars played fast and loose with the canon as it is. iirc, Infected Grunts and Jackals aren't recognized as actual Flood fodder. They would more likely be turned into the Carrier forms. As for the Lekgolo, they lack a central nervous system, so yes, they aren't potential hosts in any form.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Only if there is better combat form hosts around.

Halo wars showed grunt and jackal combat forms, so it is possible.

Or, another way of describing it is grunt and jackal combat forms get damaged quicker, and thus mutate into carrier forms sooner.

As for the hunter worms? They don't have spines as I know, which is the main thing. So hunters are pretty much immune to the flood in general.


Halo Wars played fast and loose with the canon as it is. iirc, Infected Grunts and Jackals aren't recognized as actual Flood fodder. They would more likely be turned into the Carrier forms. As for the Lekgolo, they lack a central nervous system, so yes, they aren't potential hosts in any form.


They do not have enough calcium (Grunts and Jackals) to make for suitable hosts, with that said, that doesn't mean they won't be used if there's nothing better around.

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Although they cannot be assimilated whether they are in a Hunter or a single worm due to the lack of their central nervous system, they CAN BE INFECTED OR TURNED INTO BIOMASS.

There is nothing stopping the Flood from doing so, it is a common misconception that "Inability for an infection form to assimilate"="Unable to be infected"

Their cells can still be infected, but the worm would probably have to die first.

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Im sure theres a type of flood spore that can infect life forms like that.

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1) I would assume so.
2) From my understanding, no.

Although the flood infection forms cannot infect Hunters, I'm sure they are still able to kill them if in larger numbers. IIRC a flood spore was able to penetrate MC's armour, so the physical damage potential is still there.

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I think there'd probably be a way for the Hunters to get infected, but maybe some other way, not by Infection Forms. Maybe it can only happen in one of the later stages of the Flood (not the Feral Stage).

  • 08.16.2012 12:40 AM PDT

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They cannot be infected, that doesn't stop the Flood from using them for biomass though.

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Posted by: Quantam
Although they cannot be assimilated whether they are in a Hunter or a single worm due to the lack of their central nervous system, they CAN BE INFECTED OR TURNED INTO BIOMASS.

There is nothing stopping the Flood from doing so, it is a common misconception that "Inability for an infection form to assimilate"="Unable to be infected"

Their cells can still be infected, but the worm would probably have to die first.

This.

The Flood can pretty much infect anything. Just play through Halo 2 and 3 and you will realise this from the environments.

  • 08.17.2012 5:09 AM PDT

So let me get this straight.

Lekgolo cannot be "possessed" while they are still alive. However once they die, the biomass can be used like any other organic being.

Makes sense.

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Posted by: ninjakenzen
1) I would assume so.
2) From my understanding, no.

Although the flood infection forms cannot infect Hunters, I'm sure they are still able to kill them if in larger numbers. IIRC a flood spore was able to penetrate MC's armour, so the physical damage potential is still there.


An infection form almost got chief not a spore. I would say the infection for a scarab would be 50/50 since the other components of the machine could be controlled but the lekgolo wouldn't be able to.


And no the lekgolo can't be infected whatsoever because they don't have the 3 things needed to be infected.

A spine, Central nervous system, and sufficient calcium deposits.

Even in hunter format they couldn't be infected since they wouldn't have a spine, the nervous system wouldn't be "one" not to mention the "minds" are still separate just working together as a whole.


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