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Subject: So why is there a profanity filter on a M rated game's website?

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Bungie doesn't rate their games nor have they put, of their own volition, a 17+ or 18+ rating on their products or sites (to my knowledge).

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Posted by:Achronos
The profanity filter isn't there to protect you.

The profanity filter is there because we don't care to see whatever string of expletives some of you string together and call "a coherent thought".

Very few things can be expressed with profanity that can't also be expressed better with proper language if you think about it properly.

Anybody can string a few bad words together, but not everyone can tell a good mom joke.



Posted by: Achronos
Or, you could learn to talk without cursing at every opportunity. Far be it for me to suggest that conversation actually happen here without listening to constant profanity of people with nothing better to say. And for the record, the M-rating is for the game, not the website. You guys are generally anything but mature.

Bungie controls everything. You have no rights. Play nice.

Posted by: jtforums
Bungie... I can't say -blam!-. Yes, that is actually an sh with a * and then a t. I typed it like that. Yet you sell shirts that contain exactly that on it.


Bungie, fix your -blam!-. This is a mature rated community.


Posted by: Achronos
Because I said so. You are free to go elsewhere if you don't like it. Bungie is not providing you a forum to spew profanity on, we provide it for you to talk about Bungie games and talk with the Bungie community.

I'm perfectly okay with you looking like an illiterate moron if you can't think of a way to express your ideas without profanity. :)

Posted by: jtforums

I can't say -blam!-.


What if I am talking about a -blam!- person?


I can't say -blam!--blam!- either!


I have to say "ghey" and "-blam!- se xual"


The word "-blam!-" being blocked? Why can we say "sex" then?


Posted by: Achronos
More to the point, most people here are not capable of using those words in a way that isn't inappropriate. Much like the name of a fascist party in Germany. There are plenty of places on the Internet to discuss such things. This is not one of them. We aren't trying to be all things to all people.

Posted by: True Underdog
Posted by: OdhananNot to sound like an illiterate moron or anything, but this word , or that word , for that matter, actually are not "profanity", and really shouldn't be considered as such, IMO. I think the filter is a bit too draconian at times, and censures words which actually would be useful in some conversations.

Not that I claim to have rights or anything. Just my point of view on the matter. I know the filters are set with the lowest common denominator in mind, and sometimes, it actually sucks for those of us who would like to use these words in non-inflamatory, appropriate conversations, given context.


Often times, when discussed in the appropriate context, the thread itself probably doesn't belong in the mains in the first place and should be discussed in The Black Chapter or any other private group you feel like posting about it in.

I agree with you, to an extent, but them's the breaks.
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  • 08.15.2012 10:20 PM PDT

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Just because the game is M-Rated doesn't mean the website has to be. Why do so many people feel the need to use profanity. Why do you have to do it on Bungie.net? Why not go to youtube and mingle with other foul mouths there instead.

  • 08.15.2012 11:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Verachi
You're awesome.


No u.

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"Dear Bungie.net, we regret being stubborn bastards, we regret coming to this forum, and we most definitely regret that Darth Kooky blew up our raggedy-ass opinion!"

Is there something wrong with having a civilized place to discuss various points of conversation? I like the content filter. It eliminates the truly vulgar words and makes the site family friendly. Remember, most of us didn't start Halo at 17 and kids continue to start Halo at an early age. I myself, have played Halo 3 with a 4 year old. He wasn't good, but he was playing the game.

People can easily access BNet and can view the forums without signing up. If there were f-bombs and other unsavoury words and phrases everywhere, the site would have to be treated very differently. Let's keep it clean.

EDIT: *sigh* What Achronos said in Verachi's post...

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Halo was rated M but Bungie isn't rated M. Their next game may not be rated M at all. Their company website isn't designed only for people 17+.

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  • 08.16.2012 7:12 AM PDT

The forums are for people aged 13+

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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Anyone who feel constricted by the profanity filter is the reason that there is one.

Just like one of my dogs who constantly pulls at his leash, that is the reason he is on a leash. My other dogs that don't try to tug and go their own way, they aren't aware of the leash and if it weren't there, they would still be right where they are supposed to be.

  • 08.16.2012 7:44 AM PDT

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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


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ITT: Recon calls us dogs.
It's a metaphor, if you'd like, I will take it a bit farther.

Going on a walk with me, my dogs are either well behaved and trusted company on a walk outside or they are untrusted, undisciplined, selfish and willful animals that want to do what they want regardless of the consequences or outcomes. In either case I am responsible for their actions and any damage they may cause.

Overall, I trust and treat my dogs better than I treat most people.

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Why does a firearm have a safety? So it doesn't go off when you don't want it to. Why does a company's public forum have a profanity filter? For much the same reason, it helps avoid unnecessary harm.

Oh and +1 on all the Achronos quotes, Verachi.

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  • 08.16.2012 8:09 AM PDT

DMH

Oh hey this thread again! How I've missed it!

<.<

There is no reason for this place to look trashy and be filled with profanities when you can just as easily convey your thoughts without them.

EOS.

  • 08.16.2012 8:21 AM PDT

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Then why do you feel like it is a big deal then? I for one don't want the filter taken off. People will just abuse the fact that they swear and that wouldn't add anything to the site once so ever.
Posted by: The S bot 9000
It' funny that achronos would say that, considering only spammers use excessive swearing. I hardly even see a "-blam!-" on the mains.


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  • 08.16.2012 8:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: edableshoe
ITT: Recon calls us dogs.
It's a metaphor, if you'd like, I will take it a bit farther.

Going on a walk with me, my dogs are either well behaved and trusted company on a walk outside or they are untrusted, undisciplined, selfish and willful animals that want to do what they want regardless of the consequences or outcomes. In either case I am responsible for their actions and any damage they may cause.

Overall, I trust and treat my dogs better than I treat most people.
I get it I get it I get it. Sheesh, I know you love your dogs more than me.

OT: There is one thing I have always been confused about concerning these threads. What is it exactly that the OP, and those that wish to remove/limit the filter really want? What is it they are thinking will be achieved by allowing these words to be seen?

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Posted by: edableshoe

OT: There is one thing I have always been confused about concerning these threads. What is it exactly that the OP, and those that wish to remove/limit the filter really want? What is it they are thinking will be achieved by allowing these words to be seen?


I don't think getting rid of the filter entirely is a good idea. But some words in the filter aren't profane, like "LGBT" (fully spelled out).

I get that these words can be used as insults. But so can any other label. If we're going to block words because they can be used as insults, let's block: Idiot, feminist, liberal, coolmike699, conservative, stupid, and every other word that is often used to insult someone.

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Posted by: edableshoe
ITT: Recon calls us dogs.
HA! I still remember that from past profanity filter questioning threads...

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Anyone who feel constricted by the profanity filter is the reason that there is one.
Aren't you the one who banned yourself for bypassing the filter when making a thread on -blam!- people?

  • 08.16.2012 9:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: FatM
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Anyone who feel constricted by the profanity filter is the reason that there is one.
Aren't you the one who banned yourself for bypassing the filter when making a thread on -blam!- people?
He banned himself because a bunch of babies were playing the "you bypassed the filter and didn't get banned omg ninjas are lawless!"-card because of a different way of saying dick (IIRC? that has a very good likelihood of being the exact wrong reason) when quoting an article. And he did it to either shut them up or prove a point, I can't remember.

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Posted by: edableshoe

OT: There is one thing I have always been confused about concerning these threads. What is it exactly that the OP, and those that wish to remove/limit the filter really want? What is it they are thinking will be achieved by allowing these words to be seen?


I don't think getting rid of the filter entirely is a good idea. But some words in the filter aren't profane, like "LGBT" (fully spelled out).

I get that these words can be used as insults. But so can any other label. If we're going to block words because they can be used as insults, let's block: Idiot, feminist, liberal, coolmike699, conservative, stupid, and every other word that is often used to insult someone.
lol ur such a coolmike

Then it comes down to a matter of oppressive words. There's that one word we all know about, and it was used to break down and hold a minority below the quality of the majority. The same can be said about the LGBT, even though that isn't fair.

Just like the word retarded, the words you spoke about can be used to insult a person, but usage in this way is unkind not only to the person you are insulting, but more so insulting the group that these words actually apply to.

All racial slurs are filtered, so it makes sense that any possible secksual slur is filtered too, as well as the actual words, because, they can be unfairly used as an insult.

Just as Recon said, there are plenty of dogs who would gladly walk along without tugging at the leash, but because there are those few that have to tug, we must all be put on a leash.

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Posted by: FatM
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Anyone who feel constricted by the profanity filter is the reason that there is one.
Aren't you the one who banned yourself for bypassing the filter when making a thread on -blam!- people?
And he did it to either shut them up or prove a point, I can't remember.
It could have been either. I can't remember either.

I was warned once for bypassing the profanity filter in a thread just like this one. No joke, I made a thread about the profanity filter and I bypassed a few words to prove my point accordingly.

The thread eventually died out, but weeks later a random user bumped it, then a specific mod saw it, locked it, and warned me.

Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
He banned himself because a bunch of babies were playing the "you bypassed the filter and didn't get banned omg ninjas are lawless!"-card
Well, people may have had a point. If someone else made a thread like that, it would have at least been locked. I honestly don't think that threads that bypass the filter in that regard should have the OP banned. Maybe warned, but not banned.

  • 08.16.2012 9:21 AM PDT

You can always count on Verachi for the epic OP shoot-downs with Achronos quotes. :)

  • 08.16.2012 11:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
$.50 in store credit.

This is Bungie's website. Bungie isn't an M-rated game.

  • 08.16.2012 11:46 AM PDT
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I understand nothing because my life is a conspiracy.

Because we like to be classy. Also, I think we can only say profane words that have been used in the Halo games and before.

  • 08.16.2012 11:52 AM PDT

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Yeah. This.

Keep it safe for work. I'm in a meeting right now. There shouldn't be expletives flying around the website I'm on.

I know, I shouldn't be on the site during work anyway. No one is perfect.
Posted by: WestCoastRonin
Halo was rated M but Bungie isn't rated M. Their next game may not be rated M at all. Their company website isn't designed only for people 17+.

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Posted by: edableshoe

OT: There is one thing I have always been confused about concerning these threads. What is it exactly that the OP, and those that wish to remove/limit the filter really want? What is it they are thinking will be achieved by allowing these words to be seen?


I don't think getting rid of the filter entirely is a good idea. But some words in the filter aren't profane, like "LGBT" (fully spelled out).

I get that these words can be used as insults. But so can any other label. If we're going to block words because they can be used as insults, let's block: Idiot, feminist, liberal, coolmike699, conservative, stupid, and every other word that is often used to insult someone.
lol ur such a coolmike

Then it comes down to a matter of oppressive words. There's that one word we all know about, and it was used to break down and hold a minority below the quality of the majority. The same can be said about the LGBT, even though that isn't fair.

Just like the word retarded, the words you spoke about can be used to insult a person, but usage in this way is unkind not only to the person you are insulting, but more so insulting the group that these words actually apply to.

All racial slurs are filtered, so it makes sense that any possible secksual slur is filtered too, as well as the actual words, because, they can be unfairly used as an insult.

Just as Recon said, there are plenty of dogs who would gladly walk along without tugging at the leash, but because there are those few that have to tug, we must all be put on a leash.


Filtering out 'the g word' so it can't be used as an insult is like filtering out the word 'black' for the same reason.

It's not like putting the dog on a leash, it's like locking it in the basement. Clearly some control is required, but taking it to extremes is pointless and doesn't do anything.

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