- CrazzySnipe55
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Posted by: squirrel dude
Isn't it a problem, no matter what. Especially considering the statement, "I expect more from a mythic member" only exists if we have a title system? No, it's really not. What happened to you sucks, plain and simple. But just because something like that happened to you doesn't mean that we should all throw up our arms and cry foul of the system most of us have no problem with.
Ol' Charlie Manson was a huge fan of the song Helter Skelter by the Beatles and thought that it (Helter Skelter) would be a race war that would shoot the world into the apocalypse. So, because the Beatles wrote one song that one person misinterpreted, should we now accost the Beatles and label them as a terrible bunch of people and them and their awful song to be just as much of a cause for the murders of Sharon Tate and her house guests as Charles and his Family? No.
We should blame (entirely) Charles Manson and his Family for being an infinitesimally small portion of the people who had heard that song and interpreted it in one particular way that ended in a murderous rampage. Neither the Beatles with Helter Skelter, nor the Web Team with the Title system should be at blame for Charles Manson or whoever PM'd you (respectively).
No, that is elitism. That is wonderful, wonderful elitism. "Us better members aren't elitist, it's those lower classes who just don't know better yet that are elitist." Wow. Don't even try to hide behind some crap about it being satire or sarcasm. That was just some delicious elitism.The level of complete and utter ignorance and bewildering obliviousness you're displaying right now is profound.
Members who try to not get their title taken away want to be Mythic. If this was a ranking system it would go Member -> Heroic -> Legendary -> Mythic. Heroics who try to not get their title taken away want to be Mythic. I've been saying stuff about the lower... levels? being the ones who create all of the elitism since before I was even Heroic so don't throw that -blam!- at me. Legendaries who try to not get their title taken away want to be Mythics.
It is a simple fact that to have the Mythic title is better than having the Legendary title is better than having the Heroic title is better than having no title as far as the title system is concerned. Having the Mythic Title means that you have a higher trust rating than someone with the Legendary Title. The same goes for Legendary to Heroic, and Heroic to Members.
It is not elitism it point out that the rank of General is higher than the rank of Captain is higher than the rank of Sergeant is higher than the rank of Private. It's pointing out a fact. The fact that you can't stop being so butthurt about the fact that one person said a mean thing to you one time and actually realize that there's no -blam!- elitism present on this site is astounding.
[SATIRE][JOKE][SARCASTIC]I expect better of a heroic member.[/SARCASTIC][/JOKE][/SATIRE]
I'm still just stunned by your above statement. Again, wow.Holy jesus monkey ballsack. If you've got no points, you want ALL the points. If you've got 1 point you want 2. If you've got 3 points you want 4. If you've got 4 points you want to keep all of your damn points. This is not a difficult concept to grasp, man.
Time to actually address the "it's for fun" statements.Gladly.
It's simply disingenuous.In all honesty, in front of God and everybody, standing in Lou Gherig's spot in a full stadium at home plate addressing everyone with a microphone: "I THINK THAT THE TITLE SYSTEM IS FUN. I AM NOT LYING, JOKING, BEING SARCASTIC, OR USING SATIRE."
The system wasn't put in place because Achronos thought it would be fun. Don't lie you to yourself. If the members never asked for it to be put into place it wouldn't have been.What an idiotic statement. No -blam!- if they hadn't suggested it wouldn't have been put in. That's the Community Forum at work right there. If the Community suggested a Get-Together/Water Balloon Fight that'd be fun, and suggested by the Community. Things can be suggested by the Community and also fun.
If membership didn't ask for it, or want it, there would be no reason for Achronos and the webteam to devote resources to this project.I see no argument against it being fun so far.
Thus, ultimately, the reason it's in place should be the reasons members argued for it to be put in place. That's its purpose.Its purpose to be in place is so that it can be in place? LOLno.
Even if it is for fun, that's not an excuse to have a flawed system.It's not flawed. You're just pissed off because one person one time was a dick to you.
Unfortunately, we can't make any claims about how the sophisticated the system is, how things are weighed or how effective it is in any precise terms. We've never been told what it is. For all we know it could be a simple formula that multiplies (posts per day x years on the website )/(# of bans x duration of bans) all then put into a ranking system.We've been told there's a trust rating. And that you lose something like 1000 trust after you've been banned. Your "simple" formula doesn't seem to fit the bill here.
Fun still isn't an excuse for a flawed system. Baseball is also supposed to be fun, but I'm pretty sure the umpires and coaches let everyone know the rules before the kids start playing.We do know the rules. They're posted right there above the forums. The rules are "Post. Don't get banned. Don't be a dick."
What you would be asking for is to have every baseball player have a profound understanding of the physics behind how baseball works. Which is unreasonable.
The fact that really any value is put in these ranks, when we don't how know their earned is a little silly, don't you think? No. Because we know that 0 = member. Wait, then you could think I'm calling members zeroes. Okay. 1 = member. 2 = heroic. 3 = legendary. 4 = mythic. That is all that we need to know. We know that Member < Heroic < Legendary < Mythic.
I don't need to know that it takes 12,500 trust to get Mythic status and that I currently have 7,300 pink t-points. All I need to know is that Mythic is higher than me, and I have not yet gotten there.
I personally think that we shouldn't be told how the system works because then people might game it, I think you're being foolish. The system is supposed to encourage good behavior, so "gaming the system," so to speak, should only be a good thing for the community. Gaming the system to get Fabled = post spamming and making -blam!--ty posts to get a higher rank. Gaming the system for titles = not posting their opinions sometimes because they think it steps into the very edge of the grey borderline between "okay" and "not okay" and so we lose discussion. The same goes for Honorable, Noble, and Exalted prefixes.
Others have commented in this thread how people can game the system by posting more often and creating more poorly thought out threads. Guess what, if a system, "for fun," encourages members to spam to get a different, no "better" title, then the system is flawed and should be changed.
There's nothing wrong with 2 prefixes based on post count, and there isn't an epidemic of people trying to game the system.
The fact that you're literally suggesting a PERFECT system is absurd and stupid. Incredibly stupid.
[Edited on 08.18.2012 9:58 AM PDT]