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Exactly.

I never said a ban was inevitable for people. But having a Blue Bar above your post doesn't mean that you have done something positive for this community. I never once got in trouble back in High School, that doesn't mean I graduated knowing I did something that positively impacted the school for years to come.

Posted by: Cobravert
You make it sound as though a ban is an inevitability for everyone.
I believe that posting in a manner to avoid being banned is unnecessary and not contributing to the community either. All anyone has to do is simply be cordial, and not be a jerk. I know many find that impossible, but that says volumes about them.

  • 08.18.2012 2:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gaara444
Exactly.

I never said a ban was inevitable for people. But having a Blue Bar above your post doesn't mean that you have done something positive for this community. I never once got in trouble back in High School, that doesn't mean I graduated knowing I did something that positively impacted the school for years to come.

Posted by: Cobravert
You make it sound as though a ban is an inevitability for everyone.
I believe that posting in a manner to avoid being banned is unnecessary and not contributing to the community either. All anyone has to do is simply be cordial, and not be a jerk. I know many find that impossible, but that says volumes about them.
You have contributed to the community by not detracting from it with ban-able behavior.

  • 08.18.2012 2:44 PM PDT

When most people use the term "Contributing" in this sense, they usually mean something that people will be impacted by in the future. No one is going to remember a post from five years ago if it didn't change the Forums permanently. And doing something that big just isn't something most (if not all) Mythic Members have done. So you should understand my level of frustration when someone asks for a reward for getting a reward. That's just ridiculous.

Posted by: R3ACTlON
You have contributed to the community by not detracting from it with ban-able behavior.


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Posted by: Gaara444
Exactly.

I never said a ban was inevitable for people. But having a Blue Bar above your post doesn't mean that you have done something positive for this community. I never once got in trouble back in High School, that doesn't mean I graduated knowing I did something that positively impacted the school for years to come.

Posted by: Cobravert
You make it sound as though a ban is an inevitability for everyone.
I believe that posting in a manner to avoid being banned is unnecessary and not contributing to the community either. All anyone has to do is simply be cordial, and not be a jerk. I know many find that impossible, but that says volumes about them.
You have contributed to the community by not detracting from it with ban-able behavior.
I don't think you know the definition of contribute.

  • 08.18.2012 2:48 PM PDT

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When you use contribute in that sense, very few people have contributed at all. You contribute to the community by posting actively. This website's community revolves around forums. By posting in a thread, you have helped the community be active, contributing through the spread of ideals. Titles are very much a contribution reward. Many people say to contribute to a topic when you post in it, by furthering discussion within the community, you contribute to it. Some of you seem to think that contributions have to be large or important, when in fact, it's the small ones that add up.

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  • 08.18.2012 2:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: R3ACTlON
When you use contribute in that sense, very few people have contributed at all. You contribute to the community by posting actively. This website's community revolves around forums. By posting in a thread, you have helped the community be active, contributing through the spread of ideals. Titles are very much a contribution reward.
I can make a group with a few alts in it and post only there for about 3-4 years. I'd get mythic eventually without even contributing to the main forums.

Try again.

[Edited on 08.18.2012 2:55 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2012 2:55 PM PDT

But you shouldn't get a Nameplate in Reach just for having a title. Like I said, it's being rewarded for getting a reward. And I use contribute in that sense because it's valued contribution. When you use contribution in your sense, no one with a title is above a regular member when they post. And while that may be true, that wasn't the point I was getting across. When you want a reward for having a title, you are pretty much an elitist.

Posted by: R3ACTlON
Titles are very much a contribution reward.


[Edited on 08.18.2012 2:56 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2012 2:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: R3ACTlON
When you use contribute in that sense, very few people have contributed at all. You contribute to the community by posting actively. This website's community revolves around forums. By posting in a thread, you have helped the community be active, contributing through the spread of ideals. Titles are very much a contribution reward.
I can make a group with a few alts in it and post only there for about 3-4 years. I'd get mythic eventually without even contributing to the main forums.

Try again.

[Edited on 08.18.2012 2:55 PM PDT]
Private groups are essentially fan clubs, and are a part of the community, despite what they may discuss within. Private groups are an extension of the community.

EDIT: Over 90% of my posts are in private groups. While I might not be in the public forums all that much, I still associate with people inside the groups, who can in turn come out here and talk as well. The point of the forums are to discuss things. Whether the discussion is public or private, does not matter. Groups are still a part of the community.

Why bother with getting a title if not to earn the admiration of your peers? You may post somewhere only you can see, but a title has no use if nobody sees it. You'd have to post somewhere else for it to be relevant, thus contributing to the community. That example seems very far fetched anyway.

[Edited on 08.18.2012 3:07 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2012 2:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gaara444
But you shouldn't get a Nameplate in Reach just for having a title. Like I said, it's being rewarded for getting a reward. And I use contribute in that sense because it's valued contribution. When you use contribution in your sense, no one with a title is above a regular member when they post. And while that may be true, that wasn't the point I was getting across. When you want a reward for having a title, you are pretty much an elitist.

Posted by: R3ACTlON
Titles are very much a contribution reward.


[Edited on 08.18.2012 2:56 PM PDT]

I said nothing about nameplates or getting additional rewards aside from the title bar.

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"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

I'd like to point out that Member Titles are not ranks. No one is better than anyone else. No one has any additional features or unlockables or anything. The only difference between the titles are the names and colors. That's it.

Member=Heroic Member=Legendary Member=Mythic Member

People want a higher title because it's harder to get. There are less Mythics than there are Heroics, which means that Mythic is rarer to get, which means that people want it more.

More experience on the website means you attain a higher title (unless you receive a warning/ban). The more the experience, the higher the title, but that doesn't mean you are somehow "better" than someone else on here.

Everyone is the same.

  • 08.18.2012 3:08 PM PDT

All our posts can be traced back to my first post on how Titles create elitism. I used an example of How when Reach came out, a Mythic Member felt that all Mythic Members deserved their own Nameplate in the game because they have somehow "Contributed" to the community.

Posted by: R3ACTlON
I said nothing about nameplates or getting additional rewards aside from the title bar.

  • 08.18.2012 3:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gaara444
All our posts can be traced back to my first post on how Titles create elitism. I used an example of How when Reach came out, a Mythic Member felt that all Mythic Members deserved their own Nameplate in the game because they have somehow "Contributed" to the community.

Posted by: R3ACTlON
I said nothing about nameplates or getting additional rewards aside from the title bar.
All I'm saying is that they have contributed by posting. Not if they should get anything additionally or not. Titles are based upon posts, and if posts are contributions, than titles are contribution rewards.

Sort of hinges on how important you think something has to be to be considered a contribution.

  • 08.18.2012 3:16 PM PDT

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The title system is no more then what you make it to be...

I never understood why people complained or rejoiced over having a title on this website. It is no different on any other website; those who have older accounts with a longer period of activity have the more unique titles. Its just a word/color next to their username, so I don't understand why some people claim the title system is flawed. The title system gives no benefits to members, so I have no idea why people are complaining about it.


[Edited on 08.18.2012 3:29 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2012 3:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Gaara444
All our posts can be traced back to my first post on how Titles create elitism. I used an example of How when Reach came out, a Mythic Member felt that all Mythic Members deserved their own Nameplate in the game because they have somehow "Contributed" to the community.

Posted by: R3ACTlON
I said nothing about nameplates or getting additional rewards aside from the title bar.


We have contributed to the community. Every community needs icons - heroes if you will. Those to take charge and lead them through dark times. Mythics do that, and you're very welcome for it.

  • 08.18.2012 3:24 PM PDT

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- Dawes, A little bit of everything

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Although I do think you are mostly right.

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  • 08.18.2012 3:30 PM PDT

No they don't. They literally post the same crap a Legendary or Heroic Member posts. The only difference between them and the lower titles is that they have been around longer. That doesn't mean anything.

Posted by: deltahalo UK
Mythics do that, and you're very welcome for it.

  • 08.18.2012 4:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Duardo
I'd like to point out that Member Titles are not ranks. No one is better than anyone else. No one has any additional features or unlockables or anything. The only difference between the titles are the names and colors. That's it.

Member=Heroic Member=Legendary Member=Mythic Member

People want a higher title because it's harder to get. There are less Mythics than there are Heroics, which means that Mythic is rarer to get, which means that people want it more.

More experience on the website means you attain a higher title (unless you receive a warning/ban). The more the experience, the higher the title, but that doesn't mean you are somehow "better" than someone else on here.

Everyone is the same.
That's just a statement used to try to quell elitism from blossoming. Heroic is better than nothing, legendary is better than heroic, mythic is better than legendary. That doesn't mean a legendary member is better than a heroic member, it just means their title is better.

If they were all equal we'd be able to choose which one we wanted, and wouldn't go in a linear order.

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Posted by: Telec
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Posted by: Gaara444
No they don't. They literally post the same crap a Legendary or Heroic Member posts. The only difference between them and the lower titles is that they have been around longer. That doesn't mean anything.

Posted by: deltahalo UK
Mythics do that, and you're very welcome for it.


I always wondered, when you're that wrong does it physically hurt? It seems like it should.

[Edited on 08.18.2012 4:51 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2012 4:51 PM PDT

If that's the case then why don't you have a broken arm? What have Mythic Members EVER done to show that they "lead" this community? Post news about Bungie while they're in the dark? Ken seems to do that more and he's only Legendary. Good role models to other members? Burrito has gone through more title changes than the rest of us, that's not exactly role model material.

Point is, Mythic Members as a whole have not done anything to make them see like community leaders. Most of the community leaders just happen to be Mythic Members. All rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles.

Posted by: deltahalo UK
I always wondered, when you're that wrong does it physically hurt? It seems like it should.

  • 08.18.2012 4:54 PM PDT

I don't always ban people but when I do I laugh uncontrollably...that's if I was a Forum Ninja.

Truth is a matter of perception.

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I don't feel like I'm better than all of the lesser lifeforms on this website since I'm a Mythic.

  • 08.18.2012 4:58 PM PDT

Well according to some members, you are obviously leading this community just because of your colored hat.

Posted by: QuirkyNate
I don't feel like I'm better than all of the lesser lifeforms on this website since I'm a Mythic.

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Posted by: Telec
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Now get in the van.


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Why would pain cause my arm to break? You're talking nonsense.

  • 08.18.2012 5:02 PM PDT

Well what kind of pain did you originally mention? Is it like a stabbing pain? Or like a blunt hammer type pain? You're not specific enough. So I assumed that when you mentioned that, you meant a physical injury.

Posted by: deltahalo UK
Why would pain cause my arm to break? You're talking nonsense.


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Posted by: Telec
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Now get in the van.


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Just a 'universe correcting you on your stupidity' pain.
Don't worry though, I wasn't specific enough.

Maybe neurological. I guess.

  • 08.18.2012 5:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Duardo
I'd like to point out that Member Titles are not ranks. No one is better than anyone else. No one has any additional features or unlockables or anything. The only difference between the titles are the names and colors. That's it.

Member=Heroic Member=Legendary Member=Mythic Member
Reality vs. people's perception of what is there.

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  • 08.18.2012 5:53 PM PDT