- squirrel dude
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Posted by: Verachi
Posted by: squirrel dude
1. I kindly request a more complete explanation as to why you scorn my previous data so much.
Receive revelationWell if you're not going to take things seriously. I'm just not going to do it.
Posted by: Tookurdignity
Posted by: Achronos
Despite being professionally insulted at the start of this thread, Yeah, It's apparently become my life's calling.
I should point out that basing your arguments on this kind of evidence will not work out in your favor.
(that's because the system runs on a schedule, and when you first come off a ban, the system hasn't rechecked your account to see what your new trust value is minus the penalty from the ban - it just so happened that your account was updated an hour after you got off a ban. Short bans tend to not have deep penalties).
Look, it is okay if you don't like the titles. But don't base your argument on systemic details you know nothing about. Keep your thoughts on things like how it affects the community to have the titles, don't worry about the implementation details that you don't have. That's a much more interesting conversation to read anyway.
Posted by: squirrel dude
Quick Evidence that the system isn't effective
- It took only an hour and just 4 posts after I got off a ban to get from member to fabled heroic member.
To be fair, it's a little unfair to criticize the community for making incorrect assumptions about the system, when you won't tell us how it works. If you're only going to let us have anecdotal evidence, you shouldn't get too upset when we use it.
But at the same, we all learned that it's based on a timer system. So that's cool.
If Achronos were to reveal the way the title system works then there will be people who will try to hack, or manipulate the system to give them undeserved favors.[/url]Let me just challenge this argument again in the same way as before. I've yet to hear a convincing argument against it.
If the system is rewards good behavior and good activity, then you shouldn't be able to manipulate the system. If the system can be so easily manipulated then maybe it's a little flawed. Just sayin.
Back on topic: Even though I am not mythic, and I have no other distinguishing features except a kickass prefix for my title, I do feel oddly accomplished. Granted I am sure that titles will probably get phased out for newer, better systems of rewards and punishments for BUNGiE to implement in the future.
What I have always believed in is that if there is something you don't like then don't try to denounce an idea but rather try to come up with a new one yourself. If you think the title system is an ineffective way for reward and punishment then I challenge you to come up with a better system. From my OP.
Posted by: squirrel dude
If you agree it's broken, and think it can be fixed, how can it be fixed?I'll just go ahead and add to it to make it more clear (that one's actually on me, my prose can be pretty -blam!-e).
How can we fix or improve the system? Let's discuss how to make things better.
That's the good thing about B.net and BUNGiE, they listen to what we have to say and implement the changes accordingly.
Example: I was one of the lucky few to participate in the Reach Public Beta and back then the crouch toggling system was slow so you couldn't really teabag like you could back in Halo 1-3. You should have heard how many complaints BUNGiE got for changing that mechanic though they changed it in the first place because a lot of people were complaining about the teabagging. So when Reach came out, the crouching mechanic was sped up so you could stuff your avatar's genitals in your fallen foe's face(say that five times fast) at a quick pace before going back to cracking skulls.
Not everything is perfect and sometimes brilliance takes a crap ton of mistakes to get one thing right. When asked about the 10,000 failures at making the carbon filament for the modern lightbulb, Thomas Edison was quoted as saying "I haven't failed, I just found 10,000 ways not to invent the lightbulb." BUNGiE is the same way, you can say that the title system is a failure but I just view as a way that BUNGiE is trying various things to keep us as a community together and to have fun on their site.So saying that I think the title system has failed so far is bad because inventors need failures to learn from?
[quote]But as I have stated earlier, if you think you can do better than Achronos in implementing a system that rewards people for posting quality topics and posts, and punishes them for breaking the rules in a way you deem fit, then share it. Who knows maybe your idea might be good enough to be implemented by Achronos and the Web Team.Yeah, I got nothin. I don't have a solution. That's why I was throwing that out to the community. But hey, you have to start a discussion somewhere.