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Subject: Should we be able to Ignore Posts?

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"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories." John Williams

While some may find this feature irrelevant, I would actually find it useful, even if it just collapses a post.

Yes, we all have an opinion to give anywhere, but I feel that if someone is obviously breaking the rules and policies, all I can do as a user is simple report them and move on. However, their post still remains on my page until enough people report them or a moderator comes along and deals with it. Even then, it still isn't removed. The problem is that who knows how long it will take for either of those options to happen. The moderators are on their own time as well and it would be much easier to have an option I can click to remove them from my view.

Posted by: edableshoe
I think the only real implementation would be to duel function the report button. By reporting someone, you are given the option to also collapse their posts. This would probably make it so that the report button is abused some, but in the end, it could be edited in some way to make it work.
This is what I was getting at. The report button could had dropbox that allows to to select a few options after you report a user.

-Collapse this post
-Collapse all posts from user
-Unchanged

That way, people who want to still look at someones post after they already reported them can, but those of us that want the content off of our screen can do so appropriately.

Posted by: Phoenix2640
this isnt facebook
This isn't reddit, or instagram, or twitter, or Xbox Live. You know what this IS though? The 21st century. The century where we filter content that we like to see. Many other websites and applications have an ignore/block feature. Hell, bungie.net already has one with the PM system. Saying it's not Facebook is irrelevant.

  • 08.22.2012 6:29 AM PDT

Subject: If you saw a meteor coming toward Earth, what would you do?Posted by: juniorbandit96
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Posted by: Grimaldus
Posted by: catman6
Idea for spam responses at least.
Post is auto-hidden for you when you report it.
Is that for the individual user or will it affect everyone?
For the individual user. The way it is now the post stays on the page and takes up space. This would shrink the post down to the drop down bar when reported.

  • 08.22.2012 6:35 AM PDT
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At first, I voted no because I was of the mindset that you can ignore them already. However, as I continued reading the thread, I saw the benefits to it. I would be in full support of a feature that would allow me to pre-minimize someone else's posts. For me, I might use it for troll accounts, or if someone keeps trying to get a rise from me.

Honestly, the only drawback to a system like that is people using it to filter out those who have differing opinions. Even that drawback is miniscule because it only affects the person who did the ignoring.

It's clear via Achronos' quotes that he is in favor of such a system if it can be made into something a little more involved than clicking "Ignore _______".

[Edited on 08.22.2012 6:42 AM PDT]

  • 08.22.2012 6:40 AM PDT

Subject: If you saw a meteor coming toward Earth, what would you do?Posted by: juniorbandit96
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Posted by: Khirna
It's clear via Achronos' quotes that he is in favor of such a system if it can be made into something a little more involved than clicking "Ignore _______".
Maybe selecting why you're ignoring them and having those statistics given to the ignored account once a month (how many people ignored, what did they ignore for and such)

  • 08.22.2012 6:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Khirna
Honestly, the only drawback to a system like that is people using it to filter out those who have differing opinions. Even that drawback is miniscule because it only affects the person who did the ignoring.

If a reader is already poised ignore people who have differing opinions to them, then it would make no difference if they used the any site-based ignore function to ignore. It's clear that they weren't going to address that particular poster or their post in the first place. Whether they're being ignored by the reader's mind or physically on the site, it'd make no real difference difference.

  • 08.22.2012 6:47 AM PDT

Posted by: Specter Wolf
Perhaps after realizing you ignored them for a one time lapse of judgement and you remove them from the ignore list.
Yeah, that's never going to happen. People just aren't that forgiving.

  • 08.22.2012 6:48 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

I've been ignoring others since I was a child. I ignored this thread for at least a couple of hours and then realized that I should share my gift.

We all ignore things that we don't like to hear or see. We turn the channel, we tune out our teachers, we don't hear our parents and our spouses turn into a lovable but unintelligible droning sound.

If someone is unable to ignore characters on a screen, then they need to turn the PC off and improve their skills.

  • 08.22.2012 6:48 AM PDT

There was a feather in the chicken. It wasn't even a white feather, it was a black feather.

Absolutely. I'd love to be able to block people out.

  • 08.22.2012 6:49 AM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

If it hid the post(s) in question from off the thread, then yes.

  • 08.22.2012 6:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Kalriq
Sadly, yes. Because his posts might still be on someone else's screen, who is intent on replying to every single on his posts to say 'OH MY GOD WHY ARE YOU SPAMMING THE FORUM?'
For as many users who utilise the feature to its full potential, there will be just as many who don't, and carry out service as normal.
Regardless of what anyone else does, answer this: Would your forum experience be bettered after blocking someone you identified as a spammer?

Posted by: Recon Number 54
If someone is unable to ignore characters on a screen, then they need to turn the PC off and improve their skills.
I don't think the optimal solution is to tell someone to leave the site when someone else is the/their problem.

  • 08.22.2012 7:00 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Recon Number 54
If someone is unable to ignore characters on a screen, then they need to turn the PC off and improve their skills.
I don't think the optimal solution is to tell someone to leave the site when someone else is the/their problem.

I respectfully submit that you (and others) have misidentified the problem.

The problem isn't that another person wrote something that bothers a reader/viewer/visitor/member. The problem is (at least to me) is that the reader/viewer/visitor/member is allowing some anonymous jerk to ruin their experience.

For example, you can either take my suggestion to heart and consider it, you can chuckle and think that I am an idiot, or you can stop somewhere in the middle of reading my twaddle and move on and not give my words (if they are disturbing to you) a second thought.

People have the right to express themselves. But no one is required or obligated to be an unwilling audience to anyone who decides to say something. I choose to read, consider and reply to you because that is my choice. I could have just as easily ignored you, with no effort, loss or inconvenience on my part.

I am saying that if someone is incapable of ignoring others at their own discretion, then the Internet is not a wise choice of places to visit.

  • 08.22.2012 7:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: Specter Wolf
Perhaps after realizing you ignored them for a one time lapse of judgement and you remove them from the ignore list.
Yeah, that's never going to happen. People just aren't that forgiving.

Well I did use the qualifier "perhaps" in lieu something more absolute.


Posted by: Recon Number 54
If someone is unable to ignore characters on a screen, then they need to turn the PC off and improve their skills.

Sounds like you're intolerant of those who may be intolerant to certain kinds of posts. You'd rather see them off the site than give them away to help them enjoy the site in a way that many other forums already do? I'm just trying to get an understanding here because that sounds pretty intolerable in of itself, or maybe I'm just misunderstanding.

  • 08.22.2012 7:20 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: Specter Wolf
Posted by: Recon Number 54
If someone is unable to ignore characters on a screen, then they need to turn the PC off and improve their skills.

Sounds like you're intolerant of those who may be intolerant to certain kinds of posts. You'd rather see them off the site than give them away to help them enjoy the site in a way that many other forums already do? I'm just trying to get an understanding here because that sounds pretty intolerable in of itself, or maybe I'm just misunderstanding.

I would say that you are misunderstanding.

I am about to write something that may (or may not offend you).

Specter Wolf is a stupid username and by choosing such a stupid username, you have demonstrated that you yourself are stupid and in need of serious help.

Now, that "could" be offensive to you, you may feel a need to "do something about those horrid words that some other person chose to put onto YOUR computer monitor!"

My question, and my point is, "Why?" I wrote something mean, something uncalled for, something potentially offensive, something rude. So? Are you so wrapped up in the totality of your online experience that you feel that you should never encounter or be able to remove anything and everything that you don't like? And that removal should be technological in nature?

We human beings have been able to ignore things for millenia. We ignored the stench of raw sewage in our streets before we developed plumbing. We overlooked the fact that our parents were busy making us siblings when families all slept in the same bed. We walk down the street and give a wide berth to the guy preaching to traffic. What is it about the Internet that makes us feel entitled to an experience that is sanitized and prepared so that nothing uncomfortable comes before our eyes?

I say that it is damned intolerant to say "I should be able to never have my sensibilities offended, my preconceptions challenged, or my worldview altered by anyone."

The world is an exciting, vibrant, and (sometimes) dangerous place. I don't want to live in a world made by Fisher-Price or use an Internet that has been designed by Disney. I am capable of determining what content I want to interact with, and I am VERY capable of ignoring the content that I do not want to interact with. I am amazed that others are not similarly capable.

If you consider that to be an intolerant view, I can't change your mind, but I would conclude that our definitions of "tolerance" are very different.

  • 08.22.2012 7:33 AM PDT

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I am torn on this matter, always have been. On one hand you it doesn't seem that even if you do see a post on screen it isn't going to effect you, you are just going to realize it's there, and then look over it not causing you any harm or malpractice. On the other hand you would have the ability to just click "Ignore User X" and never see the person's posts again.

It really comes down to what you as an individual feels is right for you. Personally, I would just look over what the said individual posts, and the reason is is that you may not like the person, but that doesn't mean that they don't have sound, solid points that you may agree with.

  • 08.22.2012 7:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
If someone is unable to ignore characters on a screen...


Yea, but you're like, old, and stuff.

[Edited on 08.22.2012 7:55 AM PDT]

  • 08.22.2012 7:48 AM PDT

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  • 08.22.2012 8:14 AM PDT

Posted by: Specter Wolf
Sounds like you're intolerant of those who may be intolerant to certain kinds of posts. You'd rather see them off the site than give them away to help them enjoy the site in a way that many other forums already do? I'm just trying to get an understanding here because that sounds pretty intolerable in of itself, or maybe I'm just misunderstanding.

I think you're reading into what Recon said last too much, and not the rest of his post.

  • 08.22.2012 8:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
I am about to write something that may (or may not offend you).
Specter Wolf is a stupid username and by choosing such a stupid username, you have demonstrated that you yourself are stupid and in need of serious help.
Now, that "could" be offensive to you, you may feel a need to "do something about those horrid words that some other person chose to put onto YOUR computer monitor!"

No offense, have heard it before and from those who actually meant it. Not saying that you don't really mean it, because you could, but I'll assume you don't.
Honestly I'm not even in support of this idea for my own benefit, I actually find myself agreeing with you more than not. I just don't see the harm in allowing a person to control their own personal experience while online. Isn't that one of the benefits of technology, helping people improve thier quality of life? If ignoring a few things they don't like with technology improves their experience here, doesn't it serve just that purpose?

We human beings have been able to ignore things for millenia. We ignored the stench of raw sewage in our streets before we developed plumbing. We overlooked the fact that our parents were busy making us siblings when families all slept in the same bed. We walk down the street and give a wide berth to the guy preaching to traffic. What is it about the Internet that makes us feel entitled to an experience that is sanitized and prepared so that nothing uncomfortable comes before our eyes?
Power, never before has just anyone had the power to do nearly anything they've wanted at their finger tips. The internet enables us to take control and build the sewage system to route the waste and to avoid the man preaching to traffic, and... well I can't come up with anything for ignoring parents doing performing the ritual of conception (thanks for that image by the way...).

I say that it is damned intolerant to say "I should be able to never have my sensibilities offended, my preconceptions challenged, or my worldview altered by anyone."
I see your point.

The world is an exciting, vibrant, and (sometimes) dangerous place. I don't want to live in a world made by Fisher-Price or use an Internet that has been designed by Disney. I am capable of determining what content I want to interact with, and I am VERY capable of ignoring the content that I do not want to interact with. I am amazed that others are not similarly capable.
And I agree, as I said before, I believe we're similar in this regard, but not everyone feels the same. Some people want to be a princess in their own little Disney world, that's they're loss. The rest of us will live in the real world and enjoy it.

If you consider that to be an intolerant view, I can't change your mind, but I would conclude that our definitions of "tolerance" are very different.
I definitely see things a bit differently now and you as less of an old grump. No offense, of course.

Honestly I've always been fighting for an ignore system for the benefit of other's not for myself. Because I do actually agree with those who are of the opinion of using your "mental mind" to ignore what you don't like, but I keep telling myself that giving people who may not be able to do that is a good out for them as well. Perhaps I'm too conflicted to argue such a case.


Off topic: Why my laptop will randomly refuse to load Bungie.net I may never know. I had to move to another machine to edit my post.

[Edited on 08.22.2012 8:47 AM PDT]

  • 08.22.2012 8:27 AM PDT


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Recon Number 54
If someone is unable to ignore characters on a screen, then they need to turn the PC off and improve their skills.
I don't think the optimal solution is to tell someone to leave the site when someone else is the/their problem.

I respectfully submit that you (and others) have misidentified the problem.

The problem isn't that another person wrote something that bothers a reader/viewer/visitor/member. The problem is (at least to me) is that the reader/viewer/visitor/member is allowing some anonymous jerk to ruin their experience.


This is the point where this dispute becomes sort of... fundamental in nature. Both of you can back up your claims pretty equally. I think, at this point, it's up to the people who run the web site to decide what kind of experience we get here.

But I have to agree with dazarobbo here. I think that being able to ignore what someone else has written here would be useful for ignoring people who are flaming or spamming.

It might not be a wise choice, but isn't it their choice?

  • 08.22.2012 9:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
I should share my gift.
Isn't there a restraining order?

  • 08.22.2012 9:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo
I don't think that's a good analogy, because the main focus of the page within a thread is on the posts (the post container), not the sidebars. When you look at a site like Wikipedia you see the same design. The focus is on the content on the right, not the sidebar on the left which has information [mostly] irrelevant to the content of article.
This is true but if your goal is to go into a thread and read posts from people you don't dislike with a passion or dislike the posting style of or dislike the ideals of to the point where you would want to /ignore them, then aren't those posts by that person just as seemingly irrelevant as the sidebar? Sure, you don't know when they're going to crop up but the infinitesimally small amount of time it takes to be scrolling down a page, see the user name of a person you dislike, and glance in another direction (at another post) is so minuscule that to create a feature to cancel out that millisecond of time "lost" by you is ridiculous.

"But some people don't have the self control to look away that quickly."*

or

"It's just a bother to have to do that."*

That doesn't change the fact that it's essentially a feature to get rid of at MOST, if you're dyslexic** and can't quite recognize the username right away, one to two seconds of time before you look away from the offending post(s) or thread(s) made by the offensive person.

Except when those people start talking in a loud voice, start saying ridiculous things, etc...
You're totally missing the parallelism I'm trying to draw and the analogy in general.

To point out the incredibly obvious to set the tone of the analogy, I'll start by saying that you can, obviously, only look at one forum post (and read it) at a time. This is mirrored by the world where everyone is completely mute until you look at and focus on them and what to hear what they're saying. You can look at people quickly (say, around a room) and you wouldn't hear them talk unless you wanted to (just like on a forum).

Now, this should be enough for any given person who only wants to hear people they want to hear and, barring any sort of non parallelic idea about not wanting to look at offensive looking people (unless someones avatar is that offensive looking that it somehow draws your attention but I doubt that that is the case), then you have no reason to want to put that aforementioned invisibility cloak over anyone if you can already only hear those you want to hear.

The invisibility cloak is the ignore feature, and it is as useless in that analogy as it is on BNet.

I don't have a problem with ignoring members, and if someone wants to go to the trouble of making a script, or the Web Team wants to make the feature I'll have no objections, I just don't see a valid point in making and using it.

*I'm not quoting you, just combating arguments akin to those I've seen before in these threads.

**not meant to offend anyone with dyslexia.


[Edited on 08.22.2012 9:13 AM PDT]

  • 08.22.2012 9:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Ockeghem
This is an inborn ability we already possess


Yeah, all I do is "ignore it" or choose not to post, that works very much for me.

  • 08.22.2012 9:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: Achronos
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Posted by: Achronos
Obviously, there are a lot of implementation details for this kind of thing, many of which have been pointed out. And then there is the matter if this is even a good idea or not. We're particularly concerned about how it could prevent users from becoming better users, as well as some users turning the forums into a sounding board that only echos their own opinion back to them. Although lots of you do that anyway without realizing it, so that may not be a concern.
What if new users to the site simply block every person that doesn't have the exact same opinion as them? I don't think that the problem is if we can ignore a post ourselves or not, the problem is that members wouldn't see the whole community, they would just see what they want to see. I know that experienced members wouldn't use the feature to alter their experience drastically, but what stops the new users from doing that?

  • 08.22.2012 9:53 AM PDT


Posted by: American Recoil
Sure, if you see the person whom you want to ignore, don't read what they have to say. I mean I know what you are saying, but it isn't really necessary if you can simply skip over their posts.


A few days ago, I saw somebody spam this:

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Only on a much larger scale. I couldn't read any of the replies in the topic because I couldn't scroll slow enough. Spam like that it hard to ignore.

  • 08.22.2012 10:05 AM PDT

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That's a terrible example. That post would get reported and minimized and the offender would get banned.

  • 08.22.2012 10:06 AM PDT