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Yeah dude, your seriously a German dick. We get the point.

Now Im going to translate the stuipidty you said for all others to know:

I ran out information on Halo 3, have masterchief and the arbitor sex and give birth to a Hitler child who all kills and kills then all Jews in the world!

  • 06.20.2006 8:23 PM PDT
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Yeah dude, your seriously a German dick. We get the point.

Now Im going to translate the stuipidty you said for all others to know:

I ran out information on Halo 3, have masterchief and the arbitor sex and give birth to a Hitler child who all kills and kills then all Jews in the world!


Thanks dude.

  • 06.20.2006 8:37 PM PDT
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there are so many threads about this already, read the others

  • 06.20.2006 8:46 PM PDT
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We've been here since you left.
We left before you came.

Anyways to get back on topic, Spartans will be in Halo 3. If you read the books' their are definite clues that Spartans will re-introduce themselves in either a cutscene or very dramatic level.

  • 06.20.2006 8:51 PM PDT
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SS_zag1 your wrong if you toke the time to read the topics you would have learn that the books are cannon to the story so if there are surviving spartans in the books there are in the Games cause in the end they all come from the halo bible.



The books are NOT paralell to the game although they are Canon.

Shishka said this and i'm tired of quoting him but here goes.

"the books are made to complement the games, the games are not made to complement the books. Of the millions of people who have played the games only a handful of people have read the books, and putting elements of the books into the game would serve only to alienate millions of fans."

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"the books are made to complement the games, the games are not made to complement the books. Of the millions of people who have played the games only a handful of people have read the books, and putting elements of the books into the game would serve only to alienate millions of fans."

ALL HE SAID WAS THAT IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS!!! READ YOUR QUOTES YOU FROOT!!!

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I quote: "the books are made to complement the games, not the other way around. of the millions of people who have played the games only a handful have read the books. Having parts of the books put into the games (like Spartans) would just confuse millions of halo fans."

Deathbringer quote 1

"the books are made to complement the games, the games are not made to complement the books. Of the millions of people who have played the games only a handful of people have read the books, and putting elements of the books into the game would serve only to alienate millions of fans."

Deathbringer quote 2

See any difference. I think he's making it up.

you guys?

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"the books are made to complement the games, the games are not made to complement the books. Of the millions of people who have played the games only a handful of people have read the books, and putting elements of the books into the game would serve only to alienate millions of fans."

ALL HE SAID WAS THAT IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS!!! READ YOUR QUOTES YOU FROOT!!!


Now now dear, no childish name calling is needed.

You just proved me right by the way, I quote "IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS!!!" now think about my quote.... only a handfull of people have read the books compared to the millions of halo fans who haven't. putting more Spartans in there would indeed alienate a large number of people compared to the relatively small number that would understand the New Story Arc. and i say New Story Arc because by adding Spartans that's what it would be.

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Sorry, Double post.

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Posted by: Pesky
"the books are made to complement the games, the games are not made to complement the books. Of the millions of people who have played the games only a handful of people have read the books, and putting elements of the books into the game would serve only to alienate millions of fans."

ALL HE SAID WAS THAT IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS!!! READ YOUR QUOTES YOU FROOT!!!


Now now dear, no childish name calling is needed.

You just proved me right by the way, I quote "IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS!!!" now think about my quote.... only a handfull of people have read the books compared to the millions of halo fans who haven't. putting more Spartans in there would indeed alienate a large number of people compared to the relatively small number that would understand the New Story Arc. and i say New Story Arc because by adding Spartans that's what it would be.

The Flood confused people..we need another major plot twist (SPARTAN IIIs), and the possibility of the 9 SPARTANs

(minimum of 1 was on Earth testing the MK VI armor maximim of 4 on Earth)..then James was MIA above Reach. 3 SPARTANs were en route with Chief ..35 hours away from Earth. Kelly is MIA going to find out about the SPARTAN III's, most likely on Coral.

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First of all, if you've read the Halo books congradulations you've just proven that you're a big Halo fan. If you haven't I suggest that if you seriously plan on getting Halo 3 then you READ THE DAMN BOOKS!!! If you have'nt read the Halo books then you've also proven that you're not a real Halo fan. Second, even if there are Spartans in Halo 3 what difference does it make? If I remember correctly the books left us off with what, like three of them? Don't get me wrong though, I would really like to see some Spartans in Halo 3 but that doesnt mean that there will be any. However, I would have to say that its more likely that there are'nt Spartans in Halo 3, Bungie's loyalty is to its Consumers not a bunch of bickering people on their forums.

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Now now dear, no childish name calling is needed.

You just proved me right by the way, I quote "IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS!!!" now think about my quote.... only a handfull of people have read the books compared to the millions of halo fans who haven't. putting more Spartans in there would indeed alienate a large number of people compared to the relatively small number that would understand the New Story Arc. and i say New Story Arc because by adding Spartans that's what it would be.


dude you think. some of the storyline in Halo 2 confused people. once again he said that it would confuse the people who didn't read the books. now, I didn't prove you right because Bungie has confused people more times than once. now, again, he did not confirm that there were going to be no other SPARTANs than the Chief he said that it would confuse people. think back to the people who got confused by Halo 2's storyline. did that stop Bingie from doing it. no.

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Posted by: Khakiflyboy
First of all, if you've read the Halo books congradulations you've just proven that you're a big Halo fan. If you haven't I suggest that if you seriously plan on getting Halo 3 then you READ THE DAMN BOOKS!!! If you have'nt read the Halo books then you've also proven that you're not a real Halo fan. Second, even if there are Spartans in Halo 3 what difference does it make? If I remember correctly the books left us off with what, like three of them? Don't get me wrong though, I would really like to see some Spartans in Halo 3 but that doesnt mean that there will be any. However, I would have to say that its more likely that there are'nt Spartans in Halo 3, Bungie's loyalty is to its Consumers not a bunch of bickering people on their forums.

In the Gettysburg En route to Earth, 35 hours away (at the end of the book)...and two weeks before the events of Halo CE started were..

-John
-Linda
-Will
-Fred

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[i]MIA, with Dr. halsey, most likely going to Coral to find out what Ackerson is up to

(Either SPARTAN IIIs, or Clones of the SPARTAN IIs..or just the 40 "dead" SPARTANs..whose bodies were not allowed to be shown to the S-IIs)


-Kelly

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MIA over Reach, with the high possibility (He is a SPARTAN) of finding a ship, and getting back

-James

james also helped kill the first pair of hunters the SPARTANs encountered...

(back when they had their MK IV armor, which was identical to the MK V from halo CE, but no energy shield, and no support for an AI)

...after getting his forearm blown off by their FRG[/i]


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Too injured to continue fighting, so she had withdrawn from combat, and we see a personal note from her to John in the Halo 2 LE Conversations of the Universe, but she is getting better, and is about to get her "skin" back..MJOLNIR

-Cassandra

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Too far away to be recalled to Reach when it was invaded August 30th, 2552

-SPARTAN -062 (who was in the Graphic novel..on Earth, testing how well MJOLNIR Mk VI can withstand atmoepheric entry)

-Unnamed
-Unnamed

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Does this image raise any suspisions?

9 figures, in outerspace, (10 counting the MC, who is about to be) dropping into the atmosphere on Earth? ODSTs can't do this without a drop pod..but a Spartan can.


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They are already openning up more people to the possibility of more SPARTANs...Cassandra is a SPARTAN talking to the Chief in the Limited Edition Halo 2 booklet (Conversations of the Universe), and there is SPARTAN -062 testing MJOLNIR's ability to withstand entering a Planet's atmosphere on Earth.

We need a huge plot twist to make Halo 3's campaign exciting, unlike Halo 2's/ We knew everything that was going to happen in H2..we need something new not mentioned in the games yet..like the Flood was to Halo CE.

Also, remember what the did with the Arbiter? I think there will be a few levels as the Arbiter, a few as a different Spartan(s?) and 80% of the levels will be played as the Chief, and the cutscenes will show what important things the others are accomplishing.


Contribute to my original thread reguarding the image, and more SPARTANs..here

Contribute to my original thread reguarding what role I think SPARTANs should play in Halo 3..here

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Too injured to continue fighting, so she had withdrawn from combat, and we see a personal note from her to John in the Halo 2 LE Conversations of the Universe, but she is getting better, and is about to get her "skin" back..MJOLNIR

-Cassandra


What booklet are you talking about? The one that came with the game or a different one?
Nice argument by the way.

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Too injured to continue fighting, so she had withdrawn from combat, and we see a personal note from her to John in the Halo 2 LE Conversations of the Universe, but she is getting better, and is about to get her "skin" back..MJOLNIR

-Cassandra


What booklet are you talking about? The one that came with the game or a different one?
Nice argument by the way.

It came with the limited edition of Halo 2..goto Wikipedia.org, it might have the contents of the book written down..

It's called Conversations from the Universe

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"You just proved me right by the way"

No, he didn't. Pretty much every statement made by a company in informational releases in any game developed, ever, is either extremely literal or obviously joking. It is like the FAQ says "Is this the last Halo game"? "It is the end of the Story Arc" which only proves that this paticular storyline in the Halo Universe is coming to a close, not that there will never be another Halo game made.

Also, has anyone ever considered that if you mention something from the books, then people will be more interested in reading the books themselves to find out what it's about, rather than 'alienating' them?

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Spartans Alive

John-117
Frederic-104
Linda-058
William-043
Kelly-087 (abducted by Halsey)
The 3 away on distant missions

Also, introdcing something new could take a maximum of 30 seconds. The possabilites are there, but we don't know until they state that there will be no other spartans, or there will be other spartans. Or we play the game, bungie will most certainly keep this thing covered up thightly

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Spartans Alive

John-117
Frederic-104
Linda-058
William-043
Kelly-087 (abducted by Halsey)
The 3 away on distant missions

Also, introdcing something new could take a maximum of 30 seconds. The possabilites are there, but we don't know until they state that there will be no other spartans, or there will be other spartans. Or we play the game, bungie will most certainly keep this thing covered up thightly

One of the three away was on Earth (Graphic Novel..SPARTAN -062)...Two are unnamed..Cassandra is also alive, and her letter to John is seen in the Conversations from the Universe booklet that came with Halo 2.

James is also MIA, so it's possible that he's alive..


Then we have the 40 SPARTAN bodies, after the augmentations..were hidden from the other SPARTANs and "their ashes ejected into space"..in a canister...

Plus, SPARTAN-IIIs are probably being made by Ackerson on Earth, or on Coral.

John, Linda, Fred, Will, Kelly, Cassandra, -062, unnamed, unnamed. How many does this make?

10...yes, 10. (Count the figures in the back and the MC, doing exactly what -062 was doing in the MK VI armor above Earth...and ODSTs can't do this without a drop pod...)

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  • 06.21.2006 9:22 AM PDT

They will not star in H3. No matter how good the idea may seem, think of all the countless people who have not read the books. Not only would this alienate them, but it would also confuse them. There would have to be plenty of cutscenes explaining the story. It would also steal Chief's fell of glory.

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They will not star in H3. No matter how good the idea may seem, think of all the countless people who have not read the books. Not only would this alienate them, but it would also confuse them. There would have to be plenty of cutscenes explaining the story. It would also steal Chief's fell of glory.

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Did I ever say star? How will a SPARTAN under the MC's command fleshing out the story more for us steal his spotlight..?

If you haven't read the books, you obviously don't care about the story enough. So, go read them - but please don't cry when the SPARTANs show up. Reading is good.

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cheewawa, thanks for the screen, it makes a pimpin wall background!

....unfortunately im gonna have to disagree about the whole spartan thing. in my opinion introducing all these characters would clog the story. im not trying to bring you or anyone else here down. ive been flamed constantly for believing other spartans will mess up the story, so plz dont think im targeting you. im just putting my ideas out there.

youve made some good points: if the books were to follow the game, it would be rational more spartans show up. but there just not enough proof that are any in this game
this is chief's show right now. the stage is set for him to be the hero, but other spartans? that would be like other "neos" showing up in the matrix. it wouldnt make sense in my opinion, as only about 5% have actually read the books.

i want you all to realize that i actually disagree with the notion of more spartans, but i did it in a way that was calm, respectful, and not hurting anyones feelings. i will compliment clevelandcav on this well thought out thread (and cheewawa that pic, its so sweeeet) but understand that i dont agree, but i did it in a way that no one gets insulted.

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Alrighty, I understand..but a few SPARTANs in 2-4 missions wouldn't really hurt any..especially since they're under MC'scontrol..

We had 7 Arbiter levels, and he was equal to the Chief..

I personally would like Bungie to include more SPARTANs, because they belong in the game..


...maybe they were guarding somewhere else on Earth? Maybe they were on Coral, and are trying todefend the Forerunner Artifact that's buried underground..



I just wanna see Linda snipe Elites out of their Banshees.

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What happened to the 6 Spartans and the 4 Marines that were hurt. Fred ordered them to take two Warthogs and head to that Top Secret Facility deep in the mountains. I'm just starting on First Strike.

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