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Subject: Why shouldn't the pistol be brought back to Halo3?
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Posted by: KoinOperatedBoy
So a single fire weapon that kills in 4-5 trigger pulls?


Yes, and I would have shortened my post to just that, but I made a HUGE mistake in making the main subject the pistol. So now I don't know what to do, completely edit my post to something short like that, or keep it the way it is? What do you think?

  • 06.21.2006 9:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: PREDAT0R
Posted by: KoinOperatedBoy
So a single fire weapon that kills in 4-5 trigger pulls?


Yes, and I would have shortened my post to just that, but I made a HUGE mistake in making the main subject the pistol. So now I don't know what to do, completely edit my post to something short like that, or keep it the way it is? What do you think?


Doesn't matter, people are stupid.

But I'm going to have to agree with Coysomething

You basically described the BR. The only difference is 3 shot burts as opposed to single shot, but in the end your still pulling the trigger 4+ times. I guess you could also say the farthest range is another difference.


Unless I'm missing something entirely

[Edited on 6/21/2006]

  • 06.21.2006 9:53 AM PDT

Ok. Now I think I see what you are saying. Please forgive my mistake. I thought this was another of those useless threads trying to bring back the pistol. SOrry for my mistake. I still think that this sounds an awful bit like the BR though.

  • 06.21.2006 9:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: COYOTE J
Ok. Now I think I see what you are saying. Please forgive my mistake. I thought this was another of those useless threads trying to bring back the pistol. SOrry for my mistake. I still think that this sounds an awful bit like the BR though.


Yea, I think Bungie has something with the BR. I believe it could be modified to be more balanced.

1) Longer range

2) One-shot burst

3) 4 shots to kill

The thing is, if these things were modified, it wouldn't be a Battle Rifle, it would be...something else?

[Edited on 6/21/2006]

  • 06.21.2006 9:59 AM PDT
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Basically your second and thrid points are cosmetic though. They don't really affect gameplay.

What difference does it make if the BR fires 1 shot, 3 shots, or a millions shots at a time if it still kills in 4 trigger pulls.

Just wondering, what would be the rate of fire on this new gun? As fast as you can pull the trigger (H2 Magnum) or have a cool down of sorts (HCE Pistol)?

  • 06.21.2006 10:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: KoinOperatedBoy
Basically your second and thrid points are cosmetic though. They don't really affect gameplay.

What difference does it make if the BR fires 1 shot, 3 shots, or a millions shots at a time if it still kills in 4 trigger pulls.

Just wondering, what would be the rate of fire on this new gun? As fast as you can pull the trigger (H2 Magnum) or have a cool down of sorts (HCE Pistol)?


I think allowing one shot bursts would help increase the rate of fire for this new Pistol/BR semi-automatic weapon. This could also help Rifle duals in that if you are getting shot from the back, you have a better chance of winning since you first have to turn around. Usually, when you do get shot in the back, by the time you turn around and have your aimer on your opponent, they already have 1-2 bursts on you, you could then dodge the single shot more easily then the burst shot giving you a better chance to win the fight.

I also think that cosmetic changes help the brain. Supposedly, the Elite and Spartan have the same hit-boxes, though the Elite appears to be easier to kill.

[Edited on 6/21/2006]

  • 06.21.2006 10:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ric_Adbur
No one should ever be afraid of looking stupid, so long as they are making a rational effort to expand their understanding.

I'm thinking along the lines of Quake 4. You spawn with the Machinegun which is pretty accurate, deals decent fully auto damage, and when zoomed in deals greater damage semi auto. What I like about it is you don't start crippled, and it isn't so perfect that you never pick anything else up again. Of course, Quake 4's needler (nail gun) is actually worthwile to grab.

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Posted by: Darth1Snyder
I'm thinking along the lines of Quake 4. You spawn with the Machinegun which is pretty accurate, deals decent fully auto damage, and when zoomed in deals greater damage semi auto. What I like about it is you don't start crippled, and it isn't so perfect that you never pick anything else up again. Of course, Quake 4's needler (nail gun) is actually worthwile to grab.


That would be really cool, kinda like the 2003 E3 Battle Rifle, where you shot in bursts unzoomed, and shot in single bursts zoomed. For the sake of balance, I'm sure bungie wouldn't mind changing up the realism of the same bullets doing different damage when your either zoomed or unzoomed.

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Posted by: Ric_Adbur
No one should ever be afraid of looking stupid, so long as they are making a rational effort to expand their understanding.

Posted by: PREDAT0R
That would be really cool, kinda like the 2003 E3 Battle Rifle, where you shot in bursts unzoomed, and shot in single bursts zoomed. For the sake of balance, I'm sure bungie wouldn't mind changing up the realism of the same bullets doing different damage when your either zoomed or unzoomed.

I am crossing my fingers in hopes that is exactly what the "new AR" does.

  • 06.21.2006 10:35 AM PDT
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I want to see the BR back but NOT the galo 1 pistol cuz it sucks!

  • 06.21.2006 10:51 AM PDT

That is why bungie brought back the Halo 1 Assault Rifle


jeez... weren't you paying attention?!

  • 06.21.2006 10:55 AM PDT
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Mikespyke8:"Like your post is worth while. Ok. For you little pistol lover, and all like you, here is an explanation as to why.


The pistol is a sniper wanabe. It is unbalanced. In real life, would shots from a pistol kills you? Most likely no.

Unrealistic. I mean, how many pistols have scopes? Plus, you can't even see it.

And also, if it was included, they'd pretty much have to remove dual-wielding. Therefore....in conclusion...


PISTOL SUCKS.

Magnum better."
Yeah, his post actually was worthwhile. Yours is just whining about a good weapon and trying to put this guy down.

Ok for the first part, the pistol was a good weapon in Halo 1. You had a really good chance of surviving with it. Now in H2 they give you the SMG to start out with. No range, no power. No fun.

Second, I'd like to see you get shot in the face or chest with the pistol a few times and live to say that again.

For your third statement...the year in Halo is supposed to be 2552. It would be an insult to technology not to have a scope on a pistol.

Fourth, they wouldn't have to take out dual-wielding, they could just make the pistol non dual-wieldable.

And last, the Magnum is a joke. Magnums are supposed to be stonger than pistols, and in H2 you can barely kill grunts with them.

[Edited on 6/21/2006]

  • 06.21.2006 11:07 AM PDT
Subject: The pistol be brought back to Halo3? How 'bout a Carbine-type w...
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ok lets talk about the BR

BR:

anything 5+ as far as burst is pretty much pointless.the recoil from each shot builds up like with the smg if you hold down the trigger you will slowly aim up. so 5+ = NO

the oputunr solution would having a 4 ound burst or haveing te abilty to with from semi auto to auto...

most of your pistols are 9mm semi auto handguns... your spec ops often areextremly powerful...so..

  • 06.21.2006 11:07 AM PDT


That is why bungie brought back the Halo 1 Assault Rifle

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  • 06.21.2006 11:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Doctor Bob
Mikespyke8:"Like your post is worth while. Ok. For you little pistol lover, and all like you, here is an explanation as to why.


The pistol is a sniper wanabe. It is unbalanced. In real life, would shots from a pistol kills you? Most likely no.

Unrealistic. I mean, how many pistols have scopes? Plus, you can't even see it.

And also, if it was included, they'd pretty much have to remove dual-wielding. Therefore....in conclusion...


PISTOL SUCKS.

Magnum better."
Yeah, his post actually was worthwhile. Yours is just whining about a good weapon and trying to put this guy down.

Ok for the first part, the pistol was a good weapon in Halo 1. You had a really good chance of surviving with it. Now in H2 they give you the SMG to start out with. No range, no power. No fun.

Second, I'd like to see you get shot in the face or chest with the pistol a few times and live to say that again.

For your third statement...the year in Halo is supposed to be 2552. It would be an insult to technology not to have a scope on a pistol.

Fourth, they wouldn't have to take out dual-wielding, they could just make the pistol non dual-wieldable.

And last, the Magnum is a joke. Magnums are supposed to be stonger than pistols, and in H2 you can barely kill grunts with them.



ok a pistold can have a scope...and a desert eagle hand gun (SPEC OPS DEFAULT) is capable of long range shotsif you could see that far especially in the gas powerd models... chek it out

  • 06.21.2006 11:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: MrSpinkleswirth

That is why bungie brought back the Halo 1 Assault Rifle

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  • 06.21.2006 11:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: MrSpinkleswirth
Posted by: MrSpinkleswirth

That is why bungie brought back the Halo 1 Assault Rifle

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What is your point?

  • 06.21.2006 11:15 AM PDT
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I think what he wants is the battle rifle in E3 for Halo 2 the one-shot-scope thing

i disagree. It's part of the game. some people have better weapons at other times.what you should be complaining about is where you respawn...

  • 06.21.2006 11:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Doctor Bob
Mikespyke8:"Like your post is worth while. Ok. For you little pistol lover, and all like you, here is an explanation as to why.


The pistol is a sniper wanabe. It is unbalanced. In real life, would shots from a pistol kills you? Most likely no.

Unrealistic. I mean, how many pistols have scopes? Plus, you can't even see it.

And also, if it was included, they'd pretty much have to remove dual-wielding. Therefore....in conclusion...


PISTOL SUCKS.

Magnum better."
Yeah, his post actually was worthwhile. Yours is just whining about a good weapon and trying to put this guy down.

Ok for the first part, the pistol was a good weapon in Halo 1. You had a really good chance of surviving with it. Now in H2 they give you the SMG to start out with. No range, no power. No fun.

Second, I'd like to see you get shot in the face or chest with the pistol a few times and live to say that again.

For your third statement...the year in Halo is supposed to be 2552. It would be an insult to technology not to have a scope on a pistol.

Fourth, they wouldn't have to take out dual-wielding, they could just make the pistol non dual-wieldable.

And last, the Magnum is a joke. Magnums are supposed to be stonger than pistols, and in H2 you can barely kill grunts with them.


ok a pistold can have a scope...and a desert eagle hand gun (SPEC OPS DEFAULT) is capable of long range shotsif you could see that far especially in the gas powerd models... chek it out

  • 06.21.2006 11:16 AM PDT
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Read about my gaming here.

Why would they remove the CE pistol in the first place anyway?

-It was good at all ranges, short, mid and long, no weapon is supposed to be that

-If they put it back Halo 3 Live would be dominated with the pistol, no other weapon would be used

  • 06.21.2006 11:17 AM PDT

Posted by: PREDAT0R

What is your point?



my point is..... stop arguing.


you're all acting like yourselves... which would be a bunch of whiny babies.


the default weapon for halo 3 is the first assault rifle.

no 4 shot kills

no single shots.

just automatic, and an entire clip.

stop complaining. they are not listening.

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  • 06.21.2006 11:18 AM PDT
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and if you think about it, why have the pistol again? you have the carbine in the game...that makes up for your poor little no-scope-pistol needs

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Posted by: MrSpinkleswirth
Posted by: PREDAT0R

What is your point?


my point is..... stop arguing.
you're all acting like yourselves... which would be a bunch of whiny babies.
the default weapon for halo 3 is the first assault rifle.
no 4 shot kills
no single shots.
just automatic, and an entire clip.
stop complaining. they are not listening.


NO ONE is arguing, NO ONE is complaining. Read page 2. A normal discussion until you showed up. To further prove your ignorance, that isn't the Assualt Rifle from Halo1. Want some proof?

OK!


Posted by: WEEKLY UPDATE 5/21/2006
Meeper asks,


Why is the Assault Rifle in there?


Who says it's the standard Assault Rifle? Doesn't look identical to me…


STFU.


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  • 06.21.2006 11:23 AM PDT

well.....your mother was a hampster, and you father smelled of rasberries!

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Posted by: MrSpinkleswirth
well.....your mother was a hampster, and you father smelled of rasberries!


And you need to get an education.

  • 06.21.2006 11:25 AM PDT

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