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Subject: What do you think of two function weapons?
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I like the idea. kinda like two weapons in one so you can never complain about starting weapons. here are my ideas for second functions for some weapons:

Needler: turns into a non-seeking needle shotgun firing all needles at once.

Sword: (handle of the sword) turns into an EMP grenade causing every shield in the blast radius to drop.

H:CE Pistol: auto pistol fire with loss of scope ability

PP/PR Cross Weapon: PR shooting, second function PP charge shot.

Assault Rifle: 2x Zoom with single shot ability

any more ideas??





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  • 06.21.2006 5:51 PM PDT
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That would be way to unbalanced. Only possible double function would be like a BR that shoots nades, still not a good idea thouugh.

  • 06.21.2006 6:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: t00fat
That would be way to unbalanced. Only possible double function would be like a BR that shoots nades, still not a good idea thouugh.

I agree. It would be very idiotic to do what the OP stated.

  • 06.21.2006 6:18 PM PDT
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Would be unbalanced, but the needle shotgun thing would look frickin' sweet.

  • 06.21.2006 6:25 PM PDT
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The idea of even having a weapon with two different firing techniques, to me, is useless. Mianly, I think, because it will throw balance away (take some of PDZ's weapons with 2 firing techniques) and make some other weapons completely useless.

  • 06.21.2006 6:34 PM PDT
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That would turn Halo into a Tactical Shooter more than a FPS.

  • 06.21.2006 6:55 PM PDT
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alright, fair enough. i just wanted to see everyones idea on the matter, and obviously its not for halo.

  • 06.22.2006 12:45 PM PDT

Death by figure skater.

They do have two functions. One fire/one melee.

How would you propose to layout the buttons to switch fire on a two function weapon? What button would be secondary fire?

  • 06.22.2006 12:48 PM PDT
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yeah really, horribaly unbalenced. we already have 19 weapons in the game what more can you want?!

  • 06.22.2006 12:49 PM PDT
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this isn't perfect dark zero, this is halo. no secondarry functions that require another button to switch to. i dont mind things like the pp or different firing modes when scoped or not, but please for the love of god dont make halo something it is not.

"2x Zoom with single shot ability"
for the assault rifle? why does everyone want this? why does everyone want to turn the assault rifle into an accurate rifle like the br? why can't we just keep the Br, and keep the AR?

  • 06.22.2006 12:50 PM PDT

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I've always wanted a grenade launcher attached to the BR. Throwing grenades while holding the BR is good, but the launcher could provide increased range and precision (Then again, the Grenade Launcher was my Fave in Quake2: Thunk! Thunk! Thunk!). I luvs me sum SPAM gernades!

  • 06.22.2006 12:52 PM PDT
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a grenade launcher on the Ar or Br might be ok if it didnt explode on impact and instead it just allowed more range and less drop. then again, throwing grenades is just so more awesome than blasting them out of a grenade launcher.

  • 06.22.2006 12:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: FinalSonicX


why does everyone want this? why does everyone want to turn the assault rifle into an accurate rifle like the br? why can't we just keep the Br, and keep the AR?


because if you had two different weapons like the BR and AR, it would take your 2 weapon inventory in halo. mixing the 2 weapons together would let you have an auto and a semi-auto rifle, and still have a space open for another weapon.

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Too much like unreal tournament

  • 06.22.2006 1:00 PM PDT
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see the grenade launcher type thing seems silly to me, but i guess anything could work. if you had second functions, you wouldn't need nearly as many guns in the game, which kinda might seem more fair because you can never complain about a starting weapon or someone getting a "noob stick" because there's always an alrternative way to take him out. but would kinda seem stupid because lots think it would make it unbalanced, which i don't quite understand, and take away the opportunity for more guns.

Posted by: Terabushi
because if you had two different weapons like the BR and AR, it would take your 2 weapon inventory in halo. mixing the 2 weapons together would let you have an auto and a semi-auto rifle, and still have a space open for another weapon.


thats exactly what i wanted to get at.

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  • 06.22.2006 1:00 PM PDT
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  • 06.22.2006 1:01 PM PDT
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remember agent under fire?

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Posted by: Terabushi
because if you had two different weapons like the BR and AR, it would take your 2 weapon inventory in halo. mixing the 2 weapons together would let you have an auto and a semi-auto rifle, and still have a space open for another weapon.


But firing single shot with a fully automatic weapon would mean that the one shot you take while you could make it accurate would be pathetically weak. an alternative would be making the full auto not as effective, but then either way it sucks in both firing modes unless you focus more on automatic or on single shot/zoom. if you go with automatic focus, it'll be more like the Ar we all know and love. if you go with zoom/single shot focus, it'll end up like the Br but retarded. if you try and balance it so both are semi effective by changing the damage values individually for single shot and automatic firing modes, you could end up with bugs and in any case it would be unrealistic.

keep the Ar and Br seperate.

  • 06.22.2006 1:14 PM PDT

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I like some, such as the Needler. That would work because you would run out of bullets quickly and would have to reload a lot. I do not like the idea of the sword, though. I think that the pistol should also become very innacurate when going full auto.

  • 06.22.2006 1:19 PM PDT
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that was the plan with the pistol, and the needler. it makes it balanced, but there's a lot of people totally against the idea and i doubt bungie will throw it into the game, but i think it would be nifty none the less.

  • 06.22.2006 1:22 PM PDT
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what about puting the AR and BR together? w/out scope it would be automatic and w/ the scope it would shoot like the BR.
it would be like a combo, use the AR pare them use the BR part and vise versa

  • 06.22.2006 1:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: FinalSonicX
Posted by: Terabushi
because if you had two different weapons like the BR and AR, it would take your 2 weapon inventory in halo. mixing the 2 weapons together would let you have an auto and a semi-auto rifle, and still have a space open for another weapon.


But firing single shot with a fully automatic weapon would mean that the one shot you take while you could make it accurate would be pathetically weak. an alternative would be making the full auto not as effective, but then either way it sucks in both firing modes unless you focus more on automatic or on single shot/zoom. if you go with automatic focus, it'll be more like the Ar we all know and love. if you go with zoom/single shot focus, it'll end up like the Br but retarded. if you try and balance it so both are semi effective by changing the damage values individually for single shot and automatic firing modes, you could end up with bugs and in any case it would be unrealistic.

keep the Ar and Br seperate.


i never said anything about a single shot though. and if thats the message you got when i said semi-auto then im sorry... i meant something like the BR...more like a burst of fire which would make the gun more accurate then switch to fully automatic for close range.

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Posted by: BaY SoLiDeR
what about puting the AR and BR together? w/out scope it would be automatic and w/ the scope it would shoot like the BR.
it would be like a combo, use the AR pare them use the BR part and vise versa

exactly, then you would have no need for both guns as one is combined with the other.

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  • 06.22.2006 1:25 PM PDT
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ok lol i misunderstood you.

burst fire might actually be worth something when zoomed if they made the ar indivudal buullets more powerful. of course like i said you would never have it work exactly like the br or pistol from halo 1 unless you made the automatic useless, which we definitely dont want when that was the original purpose of the Ar.

maybe make it a primarily automatic weapon, but when zoomed it is very accurate and does some decent damage in maybe 5 round bursts (that way you can get 12 bursts off into someone and if it fired fast enough when zoomed it might be able to do some damage.

i still think Ar and Br should be seperate, though.

  • 06.22.2006 1:36 PM PDT