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Subject: Button or option to derank in certain matchmakings
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Hey. I know everyone hates gettin a deranker on there team so i may have found a solution.... maybe if they made a selection or whatever to reset ranks we wouldnt have as many derankers....just a thought, maybe someone has a imilar better idea to stop derankers or coulld add on....what do u guys think?

  • 06.21.2006 6:09 PM PDT
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This isn't going to stop it. They delevel to beat the crap out of lower levels. This will just make it easier.

  • 06.21.2006 6:11 PM PDT
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i think it could be useful, because sometimes people with a 28 go into matchmaking with their friends who are level 5 or so and finding a game takes forever.

but then you'd have all the idiots who never wanna get above level 3, and they'd scare off all the newcomers to multiplayer.

  • 06.21.2006 6:11 PM PDT
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I think the games should be more closely watched and those piece of -blam- delevelers should get suspended or even banned.

  • 06.21.2006 6:13 PM PDT

someone suggested this before, but here goes

have a limit of negative points (betrayals / sucides) set at about 5 for matchmaking, that, once hit, caused the offending player to get booted from the game or caused the "press x to boot player" screen to appear on all teammates screens and if 50% or more of his team votes to kick, hes gone

  • 06.21.2006 6:14 PM PDT
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Maybe if you get 5 suicides (or betrayals) in a game you get a temporary ban from matchmaking. Like an automatic day or two (week?) off.

Deranking would take WAY longer, and it would make the "less-than-intelegent self-killing rocket whores" a little more insentive to try harder next game.

[Edited on 6/21/2006]

  • 06.21.2006 6:16 PM PDT

well, also what if you could no longer lose your rank, you just would have to earn the points back to advance to the next rank.

that would solve part of the hatred towards cheaters too, and also we would be able to let our friends onto our accounts and let them use ranked matchmaking without worrying about or rank

  • 06.21.2006 6:21 PM PDT
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That button would go against the point of ranks. The point of ranks is to go against people your own skill level. Halo 2 would be messed up completely if this button was made.

  • 06.21.2006 6:22 PM PDT
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well, also what if you could no longer lose your rank, you just would have to earn the points back to advance to the next rank.

that would solve part of the hatred towards cheaters too, and also we would be able to let our friends onto our accounts and let them use ranked matchmaking without worrying about or rank


Now that is a great idea.

  • 06.21.2006 6:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Apocalypse3210
well, also what if you could no longer lose your rank, you just would have to earn the points back to advance to the next rank.

that would solve part of the hatred towards cheaters too, and also we would be able to let our friends onto our accounts and let them use ranked matchmaking without worrying about or rank


Excellent Idea, Ingenious! kinda like Battlefield 2: MC.

  • 06.21.2006 6:27 PM PDT
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Maybe if you get 5 suicides (or betrayals) in a game you get a temporary ban from matchmaking. Like an automatic day or two (week?) off.

Deranking would take WAY longer, and it would make the "less-than-intelegent self-killing rocket whores" a little more insentive to try harder next game.




well wat if they accidently got 5 suicides a game....that would suck...but then again so would the guy with 5 suicides would suck too lol but i've gotten (accidently) 5 or rarely more lol but you know... i dunno though i thought my idea would at least help...but maybe deranking wont be so bad because i dont know if there mods for the 360 yet and if so not for halo 3 yet and thats why alot of people i saw deranking replied they were just deranking cuz there were too many modders at there level so that may bring it down a little bit... i still think that my idea was pretty good though...not to sound like an ignorant kid or anything...

  • 06.21.2006 6:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Apocalypse3210
well, also what if you could no longer lose your rank, you just would have to earn the points back to advance to the next rank.

that would solve part of the hatred towards cheaters too, and also we would be able to let our friends onto our accounts and let them use ranked matchmaking without worrying about or rank


Excellent Idea, Ingenious! kinda like Battlefield 2: MC.

no, in battlefield you could get demoted

but i do think that another game may of had this feature and that is where i got the idea
but idk whether or not that is the case

  • 06.21.2006 6:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Apocalypse3210
well, also what if you could no longer lose your rank, you just would have to earn the points back to advance to the next rank.

that would solve part of the hatred towards cheaters too, and also we would be able to let our friends onto our accounts and let them use ranked matchmaking without worrying about or rank


kinda a good idea but that would stop some people from caring about losing and they would have somewhat the same attitiude against it as they do unranked games so....it works both ways i suppose...

  • 06.21.2006 6:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: prophate
Maybe if you get 5 suicides (or betrayals) in a game you get a temporary ban from matchmaking. Like an automatic day or two (week?) off.

Deranking would take WAY longer, and it would make the "less-than-intelegent self-killing rocket whores" a little more insentive to try harder next game.




well wat if they accidently got 5 suicides a game....that would suck...but then again so would the guy with 5 suicides would suck too lol but i've gotten (accidently) 5 or rarely more lol but you know... i dunno though i thought my idea would at least help...but maybe deranking wont be so bad because i dont know if there mods for the 360 yet and if so not for halo 3 yet and thats why alot of people i saw deranking replied they were just deranking cuz there were too many modders at there level so that may bring it down a little bit... i still think that my idea was pretty good though...not to sound like an ignorant kid or anything...


Well, for games like 'slayer rocket' it wouln't work, but if you get 5 suicides and no kills with them... something is wrong or you need a little more practice.

  • 06.21.2006 6:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Apocalypse3210
well, also what if you could no longer lose your rank, you just would have to earn the points back to advance to the next rank.

that would solve part of the hatred towards cheaters too, and also we would be able to let our friends onto our accounts and let them use ranked matchmaking without worrying about or rank


kinda a good idea but that would stop some people from caring about losing and they would have somewhat the same attitiude against it as they do unranked games so....it works both ways i suppose...


no, no, no
you misinterpreted my post to an extent...

let me explain:

lets say you start out with 0 points at level 1
to get to level 2, you need 100 points
level 3 is at 200 points

once you get 100 points, you get level 2
if you go back down underneath 100, say to 88, you still need to get to 300 to get level 3, but since you were able to get to level 2, you would always be matched as a level 2 (until your rank increases)

so even if you deranked, you would get no where, thus making it pointless, but you would still be negetively affected by losses

  • 06.21.2006 6:40 PM PDT

Naww delevelers do it for the fun of getting people mad.

  • 06.21.2006 6:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Apocalypse3210
Posted by: UhOhOreo407
Posted by: Apocalypse3210
well, also what if you could no longer lose your rank, you just would have to earn the points back to advance to the next rank.

that would solve part of the hatred towards cheaters too, and also we would be able to let our friends onto our accounts and let them use ranked matchmaking without worrying about or rank


kinda a good idea but that would stop some people from caring about losing and they would have somewhat the same attitiude against it as they do unranked games so....it works both ways i suppose...


no, no, no
you misinterpreted my post to an extent...

let me explain:

lets say you start out with 0 points at level 1
to get to level 2, you need 100 points
level 3 is at 200 points

once you get 100 points, you get level 2
if you go back down underneath 100, say to 88, you still need to get to 300 to get level 3, but since you were able to get to level 2, you would always be matched as a level 2 (until your rank increases)

so even if you deranked, you would get no where, thus making it pointless, but you would still be negetively affected by losses



well thats a lil bit better then wat i originally thought but i still think people wouldnt care as long as they are able to keep there rank...i dunno maybe its just me.

  • 06.22.2006 8:14 AM PDT

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That would be extreamly unfair on people. Ranks are there to match you against prople of your own skill. Just because you wont an easyer game does not give you the right to deleval and ruin the game for others. In my opinion derankers are very selfish people.

  • 06.22.2006 8:17 AM PDT
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some feedback on them would be better

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  • 06.22.2006 8:17 AM PDT

Match people not on a numbered rank but on their stats. For example... got a whole load of suicides? Or no shots fired? Or no kills and a huge number of deaths? You get to play with people who do exactly the same. It's genius. It even caters to people who suck horribly.

  • 06.22.2006 8:19 AM PDT
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You could just have the same feature Battelfield MC has...when you press the back button, you can select a name of a person on your team, and select KICK...if multiple people select kick, he is gone. Some people will say this is stupid becuase if you hate someone in the pre-game lobby your friends will boot him in the beginning, but without that player you usually will lose cause your down a man. So you have to use the feature reasonably, aka de-ranker.

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  • 06.22.2006 8:26 AM PDT

The glass is neither half full nor half empty; it's just twice as large as it needs to be.

Better idea, how about no ranks at all?
Nobody has ever mentioned that ranks would return (as far as I know), and personally, I hope they won't come back either! Maybe the Trueskill system works a lot better...

  • 06.22.2006 8:27 AM PDT
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This option would make ranks pointless. Ranks are supposed to match you up with people equal to your skill. If someone can't get past rank 1, they obviously need to get better. Playing against people 10x better than them isn't going to help them, but playing against people as good as them will help them.

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Posted by: UhOhOreo407
Hey. I know everyone hates gettin a deranker on there team so i may have found a solution.... maybe if they made a selection or whatever to reset ranks we wouldnt have as many derankers....just a thought, maybe someone has a imilar better idea to stop derankers or coulld add on....what do u guys think?
How about if you comit suicide more than 5 times in match making it automatically boots you from the game!

  • 06.22.2006 8:34 AM PDT

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