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Posted by: ArchAssain
I don't get it punishment is a type of correction?Punishment is like justice: revenge with a false sense of authority and welldoing. The purpose of any rule or law is fundamentally to protect an individual. Aside from the ethics of it, there are also a wealth of psychological studies that undermine the merits of punishment as a form of effective reinforcement.
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Punishment. Rehabilitation shouldn't be necessary because all the rules on here are common sense.The rules advocate common sense, yet in reality they are far from it. For instance, common sense does not dictate discussions of religion or political matters to be taboo.
Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
Different length bans serve different purposes. A good point. The decision making process for ban length can be something of an absurdity. While first-time offenses of a more strict violation can be met with warnings or short bans, minor violations can become multi-month bans due to previous offenses. Ban lengths of a noncritical nature tend to focus on the user, not the offense.
Posted by: ArchAssain
Its a lesson, if you don't learn the first time, or maybe the 4th time from you're mistakes, take 5 minutes and read the rules of the forum you desire to post in.
Learn from your mistakes, unless you're fortunate enough to learn from someone else'.While certain offenses can be easier to avoid, the rules are currently very ambiguous in wording. There is a considerable gray area in which one could be unsure whether or not something posted would be in violation of the rules, and often this comes down to which moderator reviews the post.
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
If someone is so irreversible stubborn or childish that they can't even learn from a ban or two or even three plus the span of time in between all of those having been spent on the site, then there are one of three conclusions we can come to:
1. That person is so defiant in regards to the rules that attempting to rehabilitate them or bring common sense into their realm of thinking is a fruitless effort.
2. They are too young to be on this site (and subsequently immature) and should be given a 1 to 3 year ban depending on their age until they grow up a little more.
3. They're slow on the uptake that to attempt to jam the notion that doing bad things leads to consequences into their nonsense-filled head is equally as fruitless an effort as the one in the first conclusion.Age has nothing to do with it. Someone can act like a rascal until the day they die. Such is a factor of personality, which age only changes on special and unpredictable occasions.
You are wrong to associate rule violations with immaturity. Someone can maturely discuss a range of topics which are in violation of rules. Additionally, someone can post immaturely, say associate all rule violators with three false and demeaning stereotypes, and not necessarily be in violation of any rules. Disagreeing with the rules is perfectly normal, as they do not truly coincide with common sense, in addition to the obvious fact that not everyone shares in the opinions socialized by the rules.
To talk of rehabilitation is rather to promote the concept of closed thinking and a group mindset where no one disagrees. What the rules are can only be determined by those at Bungie, to which we have agreed concordance; however, we are welcome to critique and challenge them, for they are certainly not without fault.