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Subject: Halo The Thursday War Preview on Amazon Potential Spoilers
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Despite the original public viewing abilities, Amazon has taken it down, so I think the Mods should close this thread as this is NOW a leak (we didn't know it before, considering it was an official source, and the fact that 343i had their ending script in the same video released at a similar time which was backed up by the preview)

  • 09.03.2012 9:26 PM PDT
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They better not kill off Half-Jaw.

  • 09.03.2012 11:18 PM PDT

@ Quantam:

Amazon hasn't taken it down. You need to be signed in and on the U.S. site. I still have access.

  • 09.04.2012 12:05 AM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Quantam
Despite the original public viewing abilities, Amazon has taken it down, so I think the Mods should close this thread as this is NOW a leak (we didn't know it before, considering it was an official source, and the fact that 343i had their ending script in the same video released at a similar time which was backed up by the preview)


This is not a leak and the ending for halo 4 was not in the script.

  • 09.04.2012 2:47 AM PDT

I'm fairly sure that even if it was considered a leak, this wouldn't be closed anyway because it's not a leak regarding a Bungie product.

Leaks for other developers' games are posted on The Flood all the time. Why should it be any different just because it's Halo?

  • 09.04.2012 3:37 AM PDT

True. But this is the birthplace of Halo.

  • 09.04.2012 8:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Leaks for other developers' games are posted on The Flood all the time. Why should it be any different just because it's Halo?


And they always get lock to, bungie doesn't support leaks of any kind.

  • 09.04.2012 9:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: Quantam


Except that it isn't an leak, it's freaking Amazon. Blame Waypoint moderator for that stuff at Thursday War thread in Waypoint.

  • 09.04.2012 10:51 AM PDT
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From what I've read and from what I hear everyone talking about in here I don't think I could even stomach my self up enough to pick the book up.

  • 09.04.2012 11:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Just get it for the forerunner parts and so you won't be ignorant of the lore.

  • 09.04.2012 12:18 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
Just get it for the forerunner parts and so you won't be ignorant of the lore.


Or save your money and read a summary online if you decide to go that far.

  • 09.04.2012 12:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: grey101
Just get it for the forerunner parts and so you won't be ignorant of the lore.


Or save your money and read a summary online if you decide to go that far.


We all gave summaries here and summaries don't accurately describe details. Such as the whole "The Primordial is the Gravemind" thing on halopedian even though that was never established.

  • 09.04.2012 12:49 PM PDT

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From what I've read and from what I hear everyone talking about in here I don't think I could even stomach my self up enough to pick the book up.


Why? I liked what I read.

  • 09.04.2012 2:32 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: grey101
Just get it for the forerunner parts and so you won't be ignorant of the lore.


Or save your money and read a summary online if you decide to go that far.


We all gave summaries here and summaries don't accurately describe details. Such as the whole "The Primordial is the Gravemind" thing on halopedian even though that was never established.


Do what I did for glasslands, go into bookstore (barnes and noble/etc), and just read the book in there, put it back on shelf and go home.

  • 09.04.2012 11:08 PM PDT

You're so cheap! ;)

  • 09.05.2012 12:34 AM PDT
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^This. Spoilers in this post.

Free Rider problem.

If anything, what disturbs me the most is the bombardment. They take it for granted, as if the horrors of glassing never occurred.

Either Traviss is setting up ONI as the bad guys and will portray them more negatively in the 3rd book, or this will be accepted by humans being dicks holding up flags shouting UNSC!

  • 09.05.2012 1:51 AM PDT

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  • 09.05.2012 1:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: Quantam
^This. Spoilers in this post.

Free Rider problem.

If anything, what disturbs me the most is the bombardment. They take it for granted, as if the horrors of glassing never occurred.

Either Traviss is setting up ONI as the bad guys and will portray them more negatively in the 3rd book, or this will be accepted by humans being dicks holding up flags shouting UNSC!


I think Paragnosky has been put under a dark light, and made to look evil. While i believe infinity is mainly a card to get all other races to look again at humanity, and put them in that position of if you dare touch us, you are in for a whole world of pain. A political card, no one will want to mess with the humans, especially, if not seeing this comming, they do not know how many more are on the way.

Another reason i believe is that the rebellion and this infinity looks like a great act. No joke, put up a rebellion, and give them false hope. Have them threaten your ally, and come in with cavalry to save the day, and wipe rebellion out of existence. Increases friendship between both humanity and elites, and not only that, helps them organize the enemies of humanity, and to make them an easy target, and easy to distinguish from the rest of the population. Annihilate them and you have less to worry about.

  • 09.05.2012 8:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Wait, so what happened to the preview?

I just finished Glasslands earlier...

  • 09.07.2012 3:06 PM PDT
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I know I'm going to sound like an idiot, but where's the "search inside the book" option, I don't see it.

  • 09.07.2012 3:51 PM PDT

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They took it down.

  • 09.07.2012 3:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: grey101
Just get it for the forerunner parts and so you won't be ignorant of the lore.


Or save your money and read a summary online if you decide to go that far.


We all gave summaries here and summaries don't accurately describe details. Such as the whole "The Primordial is the Gravemind" thing on halopedian even though that was never established.


Do what I did for glasslands, go into bookstore (barnes and noble/etc), and just read the book in there, put it back on shelf and go home.
I used to do that with books I wanted to read, though I ended up buying the book anyway.

Anyways, that place is a paradise.

  • 09.07.2012 8:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
These books don't deal with the fallout of the Human-Covenant war and about how Humanity and the Sangheili might go about interacting with each other in that time. They deal with the authors gripes about Humanity, and about how 343i can have the Elites as enemies again for Halo 4.

Right on the mark. My biggest issue with Halo 4 is not the change to the Forerunner's tech (which apparently was hinted at in books I have not read), nor the fact that the setting is essentially Halo CE all over again.

My problem is that they specifically state they want to take MC out of his element, and instead they bring back the UNSC and make the Covenant enemies again. That is the exact opposite of putting him in a situation he is unfamiliar with, and 343i has tried their darndest to get Elites back as enemies in this game.

They missed a huge opportunity to primarily focus on the Forerunners, possibly the Precursors and Master Chief's relationship with Cortana as well as the psyche of Smart AI's and how they deal with their extremely short life spans. They'd rather shoehorn in the tried and true formula that is, at this point, holding the game back from evolving (no pun intended).

  • 09.08.2012 8:39 PM PDT


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[quote]Posted by: anton1792

They missed a huge opportunity to primarily focus on the Forerunners, possibly the Precursors and Master Chief's relationship with Cortana as well as the psyche of Smart AI's and how they deal with their extremely short life spans.


...Except that's exactly what they're doing.......

So the Covenant are in the game, as a secondary force, like the Flood were. The humans are there too. Big whoop. That suddenly throws all of the new stuff out the window? What, is a study of Cortana now impossible because an Elite is in the game? Is it impossible, now, for the Chief to be out of his element just because there are humans around?

The Chief is out of his element because the enemies he is facing are beyond his abilities to handle. He is out of his element because he has to deal with a Commander who does not respect him, or Cortana. He is out of his element because he may need to go against his superior's orders and do what he, personally, feels is right. He is out of his element because he now has a close, inimate relationship with a dying, crazy AI. For a detatched, ask-no-questions super soldier, I'd say he's out of his element.

But nope, there are humans in the game. Everything that could have been is now lost.

  • 09.08.2012 8:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
[quote]Posted by: anton1792

They missed a huge opportunity to primarily focus on the Forerunners, possibly the Precursors and Master Chief's relationship with Cortana as well as the psyche of Smart AI's and how they deal with their extremely short life spans.


...Except that's exactly what they're doing.......

So the Covenant are in the game, as a secondary force, like the Flood were. The humans are there too. Big whoop. That suddenly throws all of the new stuff out the window? What, is a study of Cortana now impossible because an Elite is in the game? Is it impossible, now, for the Chief to be out of his element just because there are humans around?

The Chief is out of his element because the enemies he is facing are beyond his abilities to handle. He is out of his element because he has to deal with a Commander who does not respect him, or Cortana. He is out of his element because he may need to go against his superior's orders and do what he, personally, feels is right. He is out of his element because he now has a close, inimate relationship with a dying, crazy AI. For a detatched, ask-no-questions super soldier, I'd say he's out of his element.

But nope, there are humans in the game. Everything that could have been is now lost.


I can agree with both of you here.

Bringing the Covenant back wasn't necessary. But I doubt it will detract from Halo 4's main story, its main focus, which is MC+Cortana and the planet: Requiem.

  • 09.09.2012 12:42 AM PDT