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Subject: WHY DOES EVERYONE WANT REALISM IN HALO!!!!
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I hear kids saying how heads should explodewhen shot with a sniper, but with the MC's helmet the bullet would just make a hole and blood would spew out, and everyone is saying how the Halo CE pistol sucked because it was not realistic, its 546 years into the future, why wouldn't we have a pistol like that? and also if halo were realistic, any kind of plasma gun would own and obliterate anything in its path and do you know why? because plasma is what the sun is made out of, which a plasma gun is like shooting a mini sun at at you.

  • 06.22.2006 10:26 AM PDT
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ok...?

  • 06.22.2006 10:31 AM PDT

"I came back to life for THIS?!" -Sgt. Johnson

Plasma IS what the sun is made of, but it's also what's in those glowing orb thingies. Just like other phases of matter, the energy in the plasma varies from type to type. Lightning is plasma generated by an electric discharge, but supercool plasmas can also be created by electromagnetic means. So, it could range in power from a chunk of solar matter to a simple glowing spark.

  • 06.22.2006 10:32 AM PDT

Facts are the enemy of tru7h....

I agree with the sentiment. One of the appeals of games like Halo is that they're hyper-real. So Personally i don't care if they are realistic in either design on theme, I just want something that is fun to play.

What i like about Bungie games is that they're always well thought out, have a great story and are fun to play. I don't really care if they're realistic...

....That what the outside place is for...

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  • 06.22.2006 10:32 AM PDT
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I agree in all of that stuff you said.I want some types of realism in Halo,but not that typeof stuff you said!Here are my answers to the things you said:
1.Halo does not need to be very gory.
2.It is the future,and that Halo 1 pistol is awesome.
3.Plasma is very powerful,in real life,but I don't want an advantage of having a plasma weapon in Halo.

  • 06.22.2006 10:34 AM PDT
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its 546 years into the future

And that also explains why there is an AR that you have to empty an entire clip into something to kill it, and a pistol only takes 1/4 of it's clip to kill.

  • 06.22.2006 10:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Naqser
its 546 years into the future

And that also explains why there is an AR that you have to empty an entire clip into something to kill it, and a pistol only takes 1/4 of it's clip to kill.


Actually thats because the pistol rounds are HE (high explosive). They are essentially tiny artillery rounds.

  • 06.22.2006 10:41 AM PDT
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Okay I was the one that said heads soud explode with siper rifle. I realy just ment the rockets and gernades to dismember and blowup people. I really don't care about any other relism.

  • 06.22.2006 10:47 AM PDT
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I want a rocket-launching pistol.

  • 06.22.2006 10:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Toxic Lag
Posted by: Naqser
its 546 years into the future

And that also explains why there is an AR that you have to empty an entire clip into something to kill it, and a pistol only takes 1/4 of it's clip to kill.


Actually thats because the pistol rounds are HE (high explosive). They are essentially tiny artillery rounds.


lol pwnt

  • 06.22.2006 3:38 PM PDT

Because realism makes it more fun. The Xbox 360 has power, and you might as well take advantage of it.

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because the more realistic something is, the more involved the player can get into the game...

but that doesn't mean i agree that the following is realistic

  • 06.22.2006 3:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Toxic Lag
Posted by: Naqser
its 546 years into the future[/quote]
Actually thats because the pistol rounds are HE (high explosive). They are essentially tiny artillery rounds.

lol pwnt


High Explosive rounds, HE rounds as they're called, would be absolutely useless.

Such rounds are incredibly powerful versus soft targets (unarmoured) due to the ease of penetration. The bullet explodes on impact and drives the fragments into soft flesh.

Against hard targets they are very ineffective. Each fragment possesses insufficent kinetic energy (mass * velocity) to penetrate armour or personal force fields.

Such rounds are rarely used in real life due to this effect. They can't fire through doors, walls or bullet proof armour.

Thus... you are "pwnt" as you would say.

  • 06.22.2006 3:59 PM PDT

the only thing i disagree with is the part about the pistol- heres why your logic is horribly flawed

if we had a pistol that powerful, why would our other guns not take advantage of that power??????????????

no sane person would have our most powerful weapon also be our sidearm

  • 06.22.2006 4:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: My Liege
Posted by: Toxic Lag
Posted by: Naqser
its 546 years into the future[/quote]
Actually thats because the pistol rounds are HE (high explosive). They are essentially tiny artillery rounds.

lol pwnt


High Explosive rounds, HE rounds as they're called, would be absolutely useless.

Such rounds are incredibly powerful versus soft targets (unarmoured) due to the ease of penetration. The bullet explodes on impact and drives the fragments into soft flesh.

Against hard targets they are very ineffective. Each fragment possesses insufficent kinetic energy (mass * velocity) to penetrate armour or personal force fields.

Such rounds are rarely used in real life due to this effect. They can't fire through doors, walls or bullet proof armour.

Thus... you are "pwnt" as you would say.





HA HA. double "pwnt

  • 06.22.2006 4:05 PM PDT
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if we had a pistol that powerful, why would our other guns not take advantage of that power??????????????


Much more succinct then my statement but Apocalypse is quite correct. There's nothing stopping your AR rifle from firing the same bullets as the pistol. We custom modify the bore and chambering on modern rifles all the time.

  • 06.22.2006 4:06 PM PDT
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who cares as long as the game is fun

  • 06.22.2006 4:17 PM PDT

Don’t get mad if I flame you because you cannot spell, or because my three year old has better grammar and etiquette than you.

Wait a minute, so the plasma in my blood is the same plasma that makes up the sun and the covenant weapons. WOW I knew I was special.

My point being that there are more types of plasma than what you are thinking, the plasma in the game act more like energy than blobs of plasma IMO, again you know what they say about opinions.

eh? eh? ;)

  • 06.22.2006 4:22 PM PDT
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Exactly if you want realism go join the army like i did:)

  • 06.22.2006 4:23 PM PDT
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yeah, its the future people, space ships, galaxy jumps, aliens. You want realistic? Get a time machine. or strap a time bomb to yourself.

  • 06.22.2006 4:25 PM PDT
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ITS FRIGGIN THE FUTURE

  • 06.22.2006 4:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: scarab08
I hear kids saying how heads should explodewhen shot with a sniper, but with the MC's helmet the bullet would just make a hole and blood would spew out, and everyone is saying how the Halo CE pistol sucked because it was not realistic, its 546 years into the future, why wouldn't we have a pistol like that? and also if halo were realistic, any kind of plasma gun would own and obliterate anything in its path and do you know why? because plasma is what the sun is made out of, which a plasma gun is like shooting a mini sun at at you.
Why would a pistol weapon(secondary weapon) be stronger than an Assault Rifle or Battle Rifle(primary weapon)?

I believe you just got owned. I agree on plasma terms though. However plasma guns are popular in games. And just plain cool. Not everything has to be realisitc, just the little things.

Oh and I know people will say how there is no fall damage. True, but Spartans can take long falls. And Elites have legs built for extreme pressure. Plus Bungie had to set it to no fall damage to incorporate the sword, because if you lunged, anything you hit would've killed you.

But now I suppose you whiners will now complain about the Sword, so predictable...

marsman, it is superheated plasma used by the Covenant, not the stuff that makes up your blood.

[Edited on 6/22/2006]

  • 06.22.2006 4:53 PM PDT

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We also have plasma in our blood.

  • 06.22.2006 5:05 PM PDT
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There's different kinds of plasma, -blam!-. Some of it is as low as 1300 degrees, which is quite a bit different than the 2,000,000 degrees on the surface of the sun. In fact, plasma isn't even anything that special, it's just superheated gas. If you had 2,000 degree air, it would be technically considered plasma.

  • 06.22.2006 5:05 PM PDT

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