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Subject: Halo: Reach and Halo 4......whats the fuss about?
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Compared to Sarge. You people are -blam!- worthless. Please leave this thread.

  • 09.08.2012 1:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: MR E0S
It's really simple see.

There was only one problem that ever needed to be fixed with Halo.

That problem was matchmaking.  IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WITH A SERVER BROWSER.



Posted by: MR E0S
Please leave this thread.


[Edited on 09.08.2012 1:37 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2012 1:36 PM PDT

I wish I knew who E0S was. Someone said Gunkoma, but I highly doubt that.

[Edited on 09.08.2012 2:57 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2012 2:56 PM PDT
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It's amazing how this thread is still alive.

Mr EOS does it again.

  • 09.08.2012 5:56 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.

I think Match Making is great.

But a Server Browser would be also great, work well for Battle Field.

As you said, people could use Boost, but problem to fix this is easy.

Match Making = Ranked Playlist (You have your Stats that some people care about)

Server Browser = Social Playlist (No Stats- or they stats don't matter as it is social.

That would fix things, and all Server Browser could be is a search for Custom Games.

You can make your Custom game Private so it is not added to the Server Browser and still friends can join.

I think this would work well, and keep every body happy.

  • 09.09.2012 4:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: MR E0S
Compared to Sarge. You people are -blam!- worthless. Please leave this thread.


I just wish you could somehow channel the 30 000 words you just spewed out over a ten page span into something even remotely productive. It saddens me that you're so intent on trying to sell a terrible idea.

I play a lot of Battlefield 3, which has a server browser, and I can't tell you the amount of times i've been booted by admins that get butthurt when I smoke them out of their helicopter, knife them while they're camping, etc.

Admins in a server in terms of a fair playing environment is retarded, and I don't know how you're supporting it. There are more flaws with server browsers than there are benefits for a game like Halo. To an extent, Battlefield works because 80 percent of the population don't even know how the system works.

Example of flaw: Halo 5: Server browser- Game is 49-47 in favour of blue team, but the admin is on red team. Red team admin boots the entire enemy team except for one and gangbangs him until victory is assured.

Example 2: Same scenario- Bad party of 4 (with admin on their team) matches another team. The other team takes a quick lead and map control. Admin boots winning team and other joining members that might threaten his team's chance of winning.

Problematic?

  • 09.10.2012 7:11 AM PDT

Ohai, I'm Loscocco (pronounced Loss-cocoa). I'm a college student (computer science major), 3D animator, and long-time Halo player.

Reading E0S's nonsensical ranting is really funny if you read it as if a pissed off Lewis Black is saying it.

  • 09.10.2012 7:20 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!


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Posted by: MR E0S
Compared to Sarge. You people are -blam!- worthless. Please leave this thread.


I just wish you could somehow channel the 30 000 words you just spewed out over a ten page span into something even remotely productive. It saddens me that you're so intent on trying to sell a terrible idea.

I play a lot of Battlefield 3, which has a server browser, and I can't tell you the amount of times i've been booted by admins that get butthurt when I smoke them out of their helicopter, knife them while they're camping, etc.

Admins in a server in terms of a fair playing environment is retarded, and I don't know how you're supporting it. There are more flaws with server browsers than there are benefits for a game like Halo. To an extent, Battlefield works because 80 percent of the population don't even know how the system works.

Example of flaw: Halo 5: Server browser- Game is 49-47 in favour of blue team, but the admin is on red team. Red team admin boots the entire enemy team except for one and gangbangs him until victory is assured.

Example 2: Same scenario- Bad party of 4 (with admin on their team) matches another team. The other team takes a quick lead and map control. Admin boots winning team and other joining members that might threaten his team's chance of winning.

Problematic?


GET OVER IT!

If that host does -blam!- like that..

Tell you what. If you are on his team.. And you suddenly notice that he kicks players out for no reason.. YOU SHOULD LEAVE AS WELL! Don't give abusive hosts the satisfaction of players populating his host. IT'S AS -blam!- SIMPLE AS THAT!

Why do you people make excuses?

First you created this imaginary person called 'A Habitual Quitter'
Now your trying to create another imaginary person called 'An Abusive Host'.

I'm not denying the existance of either of those. But I do deny the frequency of which you say they will be appearing in the game.

Because it comes back to this

Servers are personal.. meaning..
You start acting up. You get locked out.

MM is anonymous.. meaning..
You start acting up. It doesn't matter because MM is going to glady keep throwing more opponents at you.

One weeds out undesirables. (That includes players, maps and gametypes)

One of them, is like a glory hole in a dirty ass bathroom stall. You don't really know who your gonna end up sticking your dick into until the act is done. But at least you both had some kind of STD to offer right? (That was an anology for ranks)

[Edited on 09.10.2012 11:15 AM PDT]

  • 09.10.2012 10:10 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

One more perspective on that excuse you just made.

Ok.. So, you are better than the host.
You start kicking his ass.

He doesn't like it and boots you out of the game.


THAT IS TRUSKILL WORKING IN REAL TIME!
Except instead of an obscure math equation handling it. A Human Thinking Being is handling it.

I trust humans to have the capacity to know when skill levels are far out of wack, more so than a math equation.

Immature hosts won't last long. Take comfort in that.

[Edited on 09.10.2012 11:17 AM PDT]

  • 09.10.2012 10:16 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

And one last note.

Why use this as an excuse?

You all keep bringing up this deal about abusive host making stupid rooms to troll people.


If customs were to be properly implemented, with your concerns in place. No ranks.


What is keeping you from seeing the one simple solution to that?

QUITTING FROM THAT -blam!- ROOM AS SOON AS YOU REALIZE IT'S NOT WORTH YOUR -blam!- TIME!

Instead you use it as an excuse to not have server browsers.




Me: "Hey, I though of this great Idea, it's called the Internet!"

You: "I don't like the idea, I don't want to see it. Cause, what happens when some anonymous person starts trolling you on it?"

Me: "Oh yeah...good point. Let's not make the internet then.. Because you can't handle a troll."

[Edited on 09.10.2012 10:36 AM PDT]

  • 09.10.2012 10:30 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I just thought of another Analogy for all of it.


Matchmaking = AOL
Matchmaking = Macintosh/Apple
Matchmaking = You are just another brick in the wall.
Matchmaking = Glory Hole (Not the kind you see on Gold Rush)
Matchmaking = Closed Beta Testing
Matchmaking = Censorship

Server Browsers = Every other "proper" internet provider.
Server Browsers = Windows/Unix/IBM
Server Browsers = Welcome to First Class Sir, can I get you a drink?
Server Browsers = My name is Hugh Hefner
Server Browsers = Open Beta Testing
Server Browsers = Free Speech


Matchmaking stifles creativity.

You have no idea what Halo could become if they would just ditch matchmaking and make custom gaming the primary focus of online multiplayer. You might end up joining rooms hosting games that you never even dreamed of but can't get enough of.

Matchmaking is a Bottleneck for Forge.
Server Browsers embrace it and opens the floodgates.

Think of it like a beta. You can have a closed beta between your friends in which...it's ok. But it doesn't match the manpower that an open beta provides. Some random guy out there, will find something that your circle of friends just skipped over every single time. Which means ultimately, your maps will be better off having access to such a large resource of manpower to test things for you.


There you go...
THE!!!
#1 REASON!!!
WHY HALO NEEDS A SERVER BROWSER!!!!

Forge.



Now be a good bunch of kiddies and go spread the word!

[Edited on 09.10.2012 12:00 PM PDT]

  • 09.10.2012 10:46 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

You know what else I just realized?

Let's go back to your excuse about the host kicking his opponents out to get a win.

You think that he actually won?
You think that he actually got any satisfaction for a win?
OR
Was the satisfaction out of just being a dick and trying to make you angry about it?

When you get kicked out of that room...
Do you feel like a loser?
Or
Do you feel like a winner?



I have a few more questions for you.

Let's say you are on the team of the host.
That means your butt-buddy is a -blam!- loser....right?
Do you play with the same team?
Would your team leader be that big of a -blam!-?
If you were hosting, would you be that big of a -blam!-?



[Edited on 09.10.2012 12:13 PM PDT]

  • 09.10.2012 12:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: MR E0S
Server Browsers = Free Speech

You're not allowed to claim free speech if you're a communist.

  • 09.10.2012 12:50 PM PDT
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Halo multiplayer sucks!

Based on campaigns

Halo 2 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo 3 > Reach/CE tied

I must be the only one here who thinks EOS has some good points.

Server browsing would actually fix all the issues people complain about, and some people do care way too much about stats

  • 09.10.2012 12:53 PM PDT

Come now, no one pays attention to these things.

I agree with others, in that gamers are basically resistant to change. I thought Halo 4 would be a complete, COD-copying, sell-out disaster when I heard what 343 had done to it, but when watching the gameplay demo and various trailers the features looked more unique in action. The only thing I noticed is that 343 have completely killed the multiplayer announcer >:(

  • 09.10.2012 1:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: MR E0S
Let's use your logic for another scenario.

How much money do you think car manufacturers spend putting things like horns, headlights and seatbelts into cars? But why?

You wouldn't need a seat belt if you'd just be safe defensive driver.

Why install headlights when you can go out and buy a handheld spotlight?

Why install a horn when you can go to a freaking dollar store and buy one of those fog horns people use when their out on the lake?


In all three of those instances, consider the cost to the manufacturer to install those things.. compared to what it would cost for you to handle the issue yourself. Except in this case, they transfer that cost to the consumer.

I really was wondering when someone would bring this argument up, but you know as well as I do, that it's stupid -blam!- argument.

The argument is stupid, because it's in their best interest to provide their customers with a better service. A server browser is a better service than matchmaking.

So it cost them a million dollars to put this in the game? That's highly doubtful considering they are a group of talented programmers and the technology behind server browsers isn't terribly new or anything like that. So it's not like they have to think outside of the box and make something entirely revolutionary. If they really need help. Tell them to go talk to GearBox, the ones who did the PC port for crying out loud.
Hey dude, your economic ignorance is showing. Car manufacturers started to put in those things because they had to compete with other companies that successfully implemented and profited on it. As of right now, everyone who has tried to bring this over to consoles has failed to reach the success of bigger titles that have stuck to MM. The closest thing to success would be BF3; funny thing is, as soon as they started handing out servers, Reach surpassed BF3 in terms of population.

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  • 09.10.2012 4:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: MR E0S
Competitives + Matchmaking = Islam (They try to turn Religion into a contest)

Casuals = Freedom Loving Americans

Server Browsers = Freedom of Speech and Religion


I'm going to say now you're becoming increasingly unlikable.

  • 09.13.2012 4:51 AM PDT

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Because Halo 4 is taking away the teamwork element in Halo. Reach lessened the focus on teamwork, but Halo 4 just seems to be taking it out all together.

  • 09.13.2012 2:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: MR E0S
Competitives + Matchmaking = Islam (They try to turn Religion into a contest)

Casuals = Freedom Loving Americans

Server Browsers = Freedom of Speech and Religion

You're not allowed to claim freedom if you're a communist.

  • 09.13.2012 3:29 PM PDT
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Halo multiplayer sucks!

Based on campaigns

Halo 2 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo 3 > Reach/CE tied


Posted by: MR E0S
Competitives + Matchmaking = Islam (They try to turn Religion into a contest)

Casuals = Freedom Loving Americans

Server Browsers = Freedom of Speech and Religion


I'm sure you meant to say Islamist extremists

  • 09.13.2012 3:38 PM PDT
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E0S is still on top of the retard list. I son't understand why he isn't on the Waypoint forums right now.

  • 09.13.2012 3:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: MR E0S
Playing Facebook Apps does not qualify you as a PC gamer... SORRY! But that's just -blam!- stupid.

To qualify as a PC gamer, your PC needs to at least have a video card that costed you around 100$ or more just by itself.

To qualify as a PC gamer, you will have had to browse the tweakguide website at least once to help you optimize a graphically intense 3D game.

To consider yourself a PC gamer because you played Farmville?

WTF ARE YOU SMOKING!?!?

My mother played farmville once. SHE IS NOT A PC GAMER!


What about all the other games that don't use steam? Blizzard titles, EA titles, along with other MMOs

  • 09.13.2012 3:45 PM PDT

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Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


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This thread is hilarious.

  • 09.13.2012 3:52 PM PDT