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Subject: Can the mods please not let this happen again?

I acknowledge my user name is stupid. However, I promise I'm not.

Disclaimer: The latter is a lie.

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  • 09.10.2012 9:58 AM PDT

Oh look, it started.

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  • 09.10.2012 11:05 AM PDT


Posted by: CamCamm
Posted by: SharkTooth__
people are being insensitive.
and that's not to be expected? What do you do outside of the internet when someone is being insensitive?


Stores expect people to steal from them. They decide how much of a product to buy and stock assuming that some of it will get stolen.

Does that make it OK to steal from them?

  • 09.10.2012 11:12 AM PDT

Half Man.
Half Horse.
Half Machine.
All "Jerk Who's Really Bad at Math."

PS
No, I do not want to join your clan/group.

I find my life is a lot easier and less stressful if I avoid The Flood entirely; every time I've dropped in there, it's full of nothing but crap posts poking fun at inappropriate things in an attempt to piss people off.

  • 09.10.2012 11:28 AM PDT

I'm just going to leave this here.

  • 09.10.2012 11:48 AM PDT
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Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: Centauratron
I find my life is a lot easier and less stressful if I avoid The Flood entirely; every time I've dropped in there, it's full of nothing but crap posts poking fun at inappropriate things in an attempt to piss people off.


Posted by: Centauratron | Exalted Heroic Member

Why am I not surprised? ;-D

  • 09.10.2012 11:53 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Shanaynay
Member Since: 09.16.2011


The narrowness of my eyes is impossible to convey right now.

Anyway, if the forums are being spammed with 9/11 topics it seems like a good idea to report them since spam is pretty against da rules. Or you could just avoid the Flood entirely tomorrow if you're thinking any sort of good use of it would be impossible anyway.

  • 09.10.2012 12:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Grimaldus
I'm just going to leave this here.
I'm very happy to see that.

And for those asking, "Why make this thread at all?", it at least brings awareness to something that's very probable to happen.

In addition, I understand that "this is the internet", but this website is certainly not the place where I would expect the administrators to tolerate such activity. Would I be so offended to see such content on 4chan? No, not at all. It's to be expected of them. However, the Flood should certainly not bring themselves down to such a degrading status.


...and then there are the people questioning my join date on this account, despite my first and only response to such posts. I been on this website for a pretty long while. The reason I created this account is because my previous Microsoft Account associated with my older useraccount has been compromised--twice. It's mostly my fault since (I know I shouldn't post this here, but since everyone keeps questioning me and my join date, I guess I will) I lease the Xbox Live account associated with the MA (WLID) to different pro SWAT players in Halo 3. The booster account is quite acclaimed in the playlist, and the people who play on the account as of now (1 or 2 people total) I trust greatly, and they put a lot of work into my record.

Yea, I just posted that here. It certainly shouldn't have been called for, but it was. As for the BNET account associated, it's not banned, and I am not avoiding any bans. I'm not going to post the username though because some people might recognize it from a thread I made a while back on the Flood that became quite popular.

There. Happy now?

  • 09.10.2012 4:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Centauratron
I find my life is a lot easier and less stressful if I avoid The Flood entirely; every time I've dropped in there, it's full of nothing but crap posts poking fun at inappropriate things in an attempt to piss people off.


Posted by: Centauratron | Exalted Heroic Member

Why am I not surprised? ;-D
Can't tell if serious.
I barely go into the flood on that same basis. While there are many a gem, there are many more a crap thread.

  • 09.10.2012 4:48 PM PDT
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vanert says: Apparently he went to college with Stosh.
Killane says:
Stosh went to college?
Posted by: stosh
I'm a college dropout.

I'm going to be too busy playing Armored Kill to worry about this forum.

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Posted by: evilcam
Bobcast is paid in MILF blind dates.

What about threads that encourage actual discussion? Such as: "Are we safer 11 years later?" Or is that still a big no-no.

  • 09.10.2012 6:52 PM PDT
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vanert says: Apparently he went to college with Stosh.
Killane says:
Stosh went to college?
Posted by: stosh
I'm a college dropout.

Posted by: Thrasher Fan
What about threads that encourage actual discussion? Such as: "Are we safer 11 years later?" Or is that still a big no-no.

I don't see a problem with it.

  • 09.10.2012 8:08 PM PDT

13 minutes and I've seen about 3 threads pop up about 9/11 and all of them were locked and the creators banned. They're doing a good job about it so far. Haha

  • 09.10.2012 9:13 PM PDT

Posted by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 15
13 minutes and I've seen about 3 threads pop up about 9/11 and all of them were locked and the creators banned. They're doing a good job about it so far. Haha
I approve.

  • 09.10.2012 9:19 PM PDT

Hey I am a big Bungie fan ever since I played Halo 2. I love the series, I love Bungie. I have made a few Bungie logos in my metal shop.

Yes the mods should be more active on that but there only so many of them.

  • 09.10.2012 9:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Grimaldus
Posted by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 15
13 minutes and I've seen about 3 threads pop up about 9/11 and all of them were locked and the creators banned. They're doing a good job about it so far. Haha
I approve.
=D

Again, glad my thread brought awareness. In fact, I haven't found a single joke about 9/11 in any thread related to 9/11.

It's still not "officially" 9/11/2012 yet though, so we just have to wait and see...

  • 09.10.2012 10:53 PM PDT
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Whoo.

What? I'm not allowed to make jokes about tragedies now? What about jokes that have negative connotations? Or jokes that contain more vulgar language like 'darn'?

Sure, spamming lame jokes just to get a rise out of people is bad, but conceptually there's nothing wrong with simply posting the lame joke in an appropriate context. They are jokes after all.
Posted by: Shanaynay
If you think such a statement is true, why was this thread locked?

Yes, I did make that thread. So? It's not making fun of a national tragedy where innocent people died.

Your statement is ludicrous.
Why would you even make that thread?

I'm not sure mocking someone's last words, regardless of crimes they commited in their lives, is at all more appropriate than jokes about recent tragedies.

What, is it only morally abhorrent if the jokes are about innocents losing their lives? Are jokes about me throwing a wood chopping racist into a saw mill all right?
Posted by: Shanaynay
Posted by: Grimaldus
Posted by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 15
13 minutes and I've seen about 3 threads pop up about 9/11 and all of them were locked and the creators banned. They're doing a good job about it so far. Haha
I approve.
=D

Again, glad my thread brought awareness. In fact, I haven't found a single joke about 9/11 in any thread related to 9/11.

It's still not "officially" 9/11/2012 yet though, so we just have to wait and see...
You do realise they're popping up early because of this thread?

[Edited on 09.10.2012 11:20 PM PDT]

  • 09.10.2012 11:14 PM PDT

Posted by: MURDUR 587
You do realise they're popping up early because of this thread?
Why do people keep playing the blame game?

I have yet to see a thread or even a post with a sick joke about 9/11. If they're are any, mods are taking care of them on the spot.

Maybe this thread did entice a few premature ones, but it's pretty obvious that they would appear on the anniversary of the tragedy itself. That's why I made this thread in the first place. It's not like I made a thread saying, "Make sure you mods ban people on this day, the anniversary of 'Porch Day'" where I would obviously be bringing more awareness to the trolls rather than the mods. No, you and I both expect the same type of posts about 9/11 tomorrow as we saw in 2011.

Posted by: MURDUR 587
Posted by: Shanaynay
If you think such a statement is true, why was this thread locked?

Yes, I did make that thread. So? It's not making fun of a national tragedy where innocent people died.

Your statement is ludicrous.
Why would you even make that thread?

I'm not sure mocking someone's last words, regardless of crimes they commited in their lives, is at all more appropriate than jokes about recent tragedies.

What, is it only morally abhorrent if the jokes are about innocents losing their lives? Are jokes about me throwing a wood chopping racist into a saw mill all right?
You're comparing the posting of the last words of a criminal who most likely killed people to an event where insane extremists conducted an act that killed thousands of innocents?

I'm sorry, but there simply is no comparison, whether or not your moral beliefs stand for it. You began your response by defending people who post things like "Nyan Eleven", "Prince of Bel-Air 'dancing' on the towers", and other such sick jokes about the disaster (I really didn't want to post examples, but it seems that I have to to get my point across), yet you condemn me for making a thread telling people to find the last words of a criminal and post them in the thread. Make up your mind.

If you're so right, I guess we would be seeing holocaust jokes posted on every message board on the internet with rules. It comes to my understanding that such content isn't very common on boards rather than 4chan.

It's not your or anyone's place to deem certain things socially acceptable anywhere with a higher authority. It's the administrator's, the people running the website. It seems pretty obvious to me that they don't accept it. Yes, people may get away with posting such content, but does a bear -blam!- in the woods? You tell me...

  • 09.10.2012 11:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shanaynay
Why do people keep playing the blame game?

I have yet to see a thread or even a post with a sick joke about 9/11. If they're are any, mods are taking care of them on the spot.

Maybe this thread did entice a few premature ones, but it's pretty obvious that they would appear on the anniversary of the tragedy itself. That's why I made this thread in the first place. It's not like I made a thread saying, "Make sure you mods ban people on this day, the anniversary of 'Porch Day'" where I would obviously be bringing more awareness to the trolls rather than the mods. No, you and I both expect the same type of posts about 9/11 tomorrow as we saw in 2011.
And they would have been handled the same way they were handled last year and the same way they're being handled right now, all you've done is put the idea in more people's heads.

Posted by: Shanaynay
You're comparing the posting of the last words of a criminal who most likely killed people to an event where insane extremists conducted an act that killed thousands of innocents?

I'm sorry, but there simply is no comparison, whether or not your moral beliefs stand for it. You began your response by defending people who post things like "Nyan Eleven", "Prince of Bel-Air 'dancing' on the towers", and other such sick jokes about the disaster (I really didn't want to post examples, but it seems that I have to to get my point across), yet you condemn me for making a thread telling people to find the last words of a criminal and post them in the thread. Make up your mind.

If you're so right, I guess we would be seeing holocaust jokes posted on every message board on the internet with rules. It comes to my understanding that such content isn't very common on boards rather than 4chan.

It's not your or anyone's place to deem certain things socially acceptable anywhere with a higher authority. It's the administrator's, the people running the website. It seems pretty obvious to me that they don't accept it. Yes, people may get away with posting such content, but does a bear -blam!- in the woods? You tell me...
You're the one flip flopping your position here. What are you claiming? Don't speak ill of the dead unless they broke some laws?

I simply claimed that your thread was in equally bad taste, if not even worse, given that at the very least people aren't mocking the last words the innocents dead at 9/11 said to their loved ones.

No, they're just adding a silly undertone to the event, not mocking those who lost their lives.


I suppose they're not really compare-able, your thread was far worse.
Anne Frankly, holocaust jokes can be quite funny.

[Edited on 09.10.2012 11:44 PM PDT]

  • 09.10.2012 11:39 PM PDT

Posted by: MURDUR 587
You're the one flip flopping your position here.

I simply claimed that your thread was in equally bad taste, if not even worse, given that at the very least people aren't mocking the last words the innocents dead at 9/11 said to their loved ones.

No, they're just adding a silly undertone to the event, not mocking those who lost their lives.

I suppose they're not really compare-able, your thread was far worse.
Anne Frankly, holocaust jokes can be quite funny.
Jesus -blam!- Christ, I didn't know people were selling Mythic accounts nowadays...

Posted by: MURDUR 587
I suppose they're not really compare-able, your thread was far worse.
No, it wasn't. My thread's main standpoint was based on users looking for humorous last-words from executed prisoners who committed horrible acts to land themselves in such a position anyway.

Of course you will continue to disagree because you have bonded yourself to some social foundation society has created. "Oh, it's okay to make fun of mass amounts of innocent people dying, as long as it 'wasn't so soon'... wait, you're making fun of dead criminals and their last words?! How dare you!"

Posted by: MURDUR 587
And they would have been handled the same way they were handled last year and the same way they're being handled right now, all you've done is put the idea in more people's heads.
No, it's not. It's pretty clear, considering I and many other members are seeing the moderators take immediate action against threads that do express such behavior, that my thread made a difference.

Moderation of the content was handled poorly last year. Again, this thread was to bring awareness to the inevitable that would occur.

How in the hell have I inspired trolls to create 9/11 joke threads? If anything, it should discourage them to since the moderators were made extra aware of what types of posts they would most likely see on 9/11/2012. If they have, where's your proof? I don't see any surplus of offensive 9/11 content anywhere? Yet, what I do see is moderators acting quickly against threads that do post such content.

Stop twisting facts. You're trying to put ME down because you're upset that you can't make anymore offensive jokes in the Flood this year about 9/11. It's over, the content isn't welcome, and the moderators are prepared to strike down. Deal with it.

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Posted by: Shanaynay
No, it wasn't. My thread's main standpoint was based on users looking for humorous last-words from executed prisoners who committed horrible acts to land themselves in such a position anyway.

Of course you will continue to disagree because you have bonded yourself to some social foundation society has created. "Oh, it's okay to make fun of mass amounts of innocent people dying, as long as it 'wasn't so soon'... wait, you're making fun of dead criminals and their last words?! How dare you!"
There is a difference between adding levity to a serious event and mocking a dead man's last words.

The same way there's a difference between telling a funny story about the recently deceased at a funeral and pissing on the corpse in front of everyone. Sure the funny story might not fit everyone's taste, but there's nothing conceptually wrong with telling one.Posted by: Shanaynay
No, it's not. It's pretty clear, considering I and many other members are seeing the moderators take immediate action against threads that do express such behavior, that my thread made a difference.

Moderation of the content was handled poorly last year. Again, this thread was to bring awareness to the inevitable that would occur.

How in the hell have I inspired trolls to create 9/11 joke threads? If anything, it should discourage them to since the moderators were made extra aware of what types of posts they would most likely see on 9/11/2012. If they have, where's your proof? I don't see any surplus of offensive 9/11 content anywhere? Yet, what I do see is moderators acting quickly against threads that do post such content.

Stop twisting facts. You're trying to put ME down because you're upset that you can't make anymore offensive jokes in the Flood this year about 9/11. It's over, the content isn't welcome, and the moderators are prepared to strike down. Deal with it.
No it wasn't, just because you saw a gap in moderation last year doesn't mean the moderators were too busy eating a corrisant to do anything, just because they can't keep up with the spam doesn't mean they were ignoring it completely.

Also, the mods locking three threads that this thread caused is hardly making a difference, if anything it's exacerbating the situation rather than helping it. And just because the mods locked three threads doesn't mean they're going to be able to be completely on top of it tomorrow if they threads start rolling in, the work load fluctuates rapidly and rises quickly.

How did you cause them?
Well I don't know, how am I reinforcing a child's behaviour by giving him attention when he acts out? You're giving trolls what they want by creating this thread, by showing it has had an effect on you, you're encouraging the behaviour.

As for me, I don't think I have ever made a 9/11 joke on these forums, however I will hold the position that as long as the joke isn't made with the intent of illiciting and a responce and it put in the proper context that it belongs here as much as any other post.

[Edited on 09.11.2012 12:26 AM PDT]

  • 09.11.2012 12:25 AM PDT

Posted by: MURDUR 587
Posted by: Shanaynay
No, it wasn't. My thread's main standpoint was based on users looking for humorous last-words from executed prisoners who committed horrible acts to land themselves in such a position anyway.

Of course you will continue to disagree because you have bonded yourself to some social foundation society has created. "Oh, it's okay to make fun of mass amounts of innocent people dying, as long as it 'wasn't so soon'... wait, you're making fun of dead criminals and their last words?! How dare you!"
There is a difference between adding levity to a serious event and mocking a dead man's last words.

The same way there's a difference between telling a funny story about the recently deceased at a funeral and pissing on the corpse in front of everyone. Sure the funny story might not fit everyone's taste, but there's nothing conceptually wrong with telling one.Posted by: Shanaynay
No, it's not. It's pretty clear, considering I and many other members are seeing the moderators take immediate action against threads that do express such behavior, that my thread made a difference.

Moderation of the content was handled poorly last year. Again, this thread was to bring awareness to the inevitable that would occur.

How in the hell have I inspired trolls to create 9/11 joke threads? If anything, it should discourage them to since the moderators were made extra aware of what types of posts they would most likely see on 9/11/2012. If they have, where's your proof? I don't see any surplus of offensive 9/11 content anywhere? Yet, what I do see is moderators acting quickly against threads that do post such content.

Stop twisting facts. You're trying to put ME down because you're upset that you can't make anymore offensive jokes in the Flood this year about 9/11. It's over, the content isn't welcome, and the moderators are prepared to strike down. Deal with it.
No it wasn't, just because you saw a gap in moderation last year doesn't mean the moderators were too busy eating a corrisant to do anything, just because they can't keep up with the spam doesn't mean they were ignoring it completely.

Also, the mods locking three threads that this thread caused is hardly making a difference, if anything it's exacerbating the situation rather than helping it. And just because the mods locked three threads doesn't mean they're going to be able to be completely on top of it tomorrow if they threads start rolling in, the work load fluctuates rapidly and rises quickly.

How did you cause them?
Well I don't know, how am I reinforcing a child's behaviour by giving him attention when he acts out? You're giving trolls what they want by creating this thread, by showing it has had an effect on you, you're encouraging the behaviour.

for me, I don't think I have ever made a 9/11 joke on these forums, however I will hold the position that as long as the joke isn't made with the intent of illiciting and a responce and it put in the proper context that it belongs here as much as any other post.
Proper context? Wat? All people do on that piss ass of a forum is illicit responses because they know they're well beyond hitting range. There's no real consequences here that will deter -blam!- behavior....bastards will be bastards. There is no "proper context" when joking about a tragedy...people keep saying that it's been 11 years and they need to get over it...okay, and how are people supposed to get over something if the scum keep opening old wounds... Point is that there is abso-blam!-lutely NO -blam!- reason we need to allow it here.

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Posted by: Grimaldus
Proper context? Wat? All people do on that piss ass of a forum is illicit responses because they know they're well beyond hitting range. There's no real consequences here that will deter -blam!- behavior....bastards will be bastards. There is no "proper context" when joking about a tragedy...people keep saying that it's been 11 years and they need to get over it...okay, and how are people supposed to get over something if the scum keep opening old wounds... Point is that there is abso-blam!-lutely NO -blam!- reason we need to allow it here.
Ok I feel I need to phrase this another way.

Is it wrong to laugh at this?


It's a joke about the extinction of a whole age of species, regardless of how you personally think it happened, how is a joke about that any more acceptable than a joke about any other tragedy?

[Edited on 09.11.2012 1:04 AM PDT]

  • 09.11.2012 1:03 AM PDT

Posted by: MURDUR 587
Posted by: Grimaldus
Proper context? Wat? All people do on that piss ass of a forum is illicit responses because they know they're well beyond hitting range. There's no real consequences here that will deter -blam!- behavior....bastards will be bastards. There is no "proper context" when joking about a tragedy...people keep saying that it's been 11 years and they need to get over it...okay, and how are people supposed to get over something if the scum keep opening old wounds... Point is that there is abso-blam!-lutely NO -blam!- reason we need to allow it here.
Ok I feel I need to phrase this another way.

Is it wrong to laugh at this?


It's a joke about the extinction of a whole age of species, regardless of how you personally think it happened, how is a joke about that any more acceptable than a joke about any other tragedy?
I believe it is wrong to joke about any loss of human life....you want to make a joke about a bunch of lizards go for it...it doesn't relate/hurt anyone.I have never ever ever cracked a single remark at the death of a human being. In fact, I don't think I've ever cracked -blam!- about death at all. My argument for this site is that the people in the Flood cannot restrain themselves to properly discussing tragedies...and honestly, I don't think the moderators would want to babysit such threads. Though obviously if the thread was an honest to god discussion it would be acceptable to just ban the troublemakers for 3 days without warning seeing as how we go through this every year...there are certain things you can say and other things that should be kept to yourself. I don't mean to sound disrespectful to you but this is a horribly touchy subject for me.

[Edited on 09.11.2012 1:14 AM PDT]

  • 09.11.2012 1:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: Grimaldus
I believe it is wrong to joke about any loss of human life....you want to make a joke about a bunch of lizards go for it...it doesn't relate/hurt anyone.I have never ever ever cracked a single remark at the death of a human being. In fact, I don't think I've ever cracked -blam!- about death at all.
Is it really more wrong to joke about the loss of one human life than it is to joke about the loss of thousands of species?


I'm not saying that the people spamming these threads just to troll shouldn't be banned or that said jokes are acceptable no matter what the context, but I don't think there's something inherently wrong with simply joking about a tragedy, did shakespeare not write a few tragic comedies in his time?

  • 09.11.2012 1:33 AM PDT