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Subject: Halo 3 doesn't take any more skill than COD.

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Posted by: Water Beetle

Posted by: II gaped II
lol you are very confused... Learning weapon spawns and spawn points takes skill and time... COD takes no skill at all, It's just a sprint and one shot type of a game


But it does take skill to actually stay alive since you die so easily

The same argument could be used for saying that Call of Duty takes no skill. If getting kills is so easy, then it doesn't take as much (if any) skill to stay alive.

In my opinion, weapon spawns and shields in Halo is what mainly makes it take more skill to play decently than Call of Duty. You could say that it's easier to stay alive in Halo than Call of Duty since it's harder to kill someone, but the weapon spawns compensate for that.

[Edited on 09.11.2012 7:59 AM PDT]

  • 09.11.2012 7:55 AM PDT
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  • 09.11.2012 7:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: snake kills you

Posted by: Lord Popl

Posted by: Screamo
sorry you suck at halo, doesn't mean the game doesn't take skill though.


I'm a pro......DUDE. I always win. FFA or Team.

Hold up mongoloid, nobody "always" wins. I guarantee you have lost at least 1 game. Go back to your mommas -blam!-.


wow......u guys took the most insignificant thing u could out of that and focussed on it......sad. You really didn't catch anything i was trying to say, clued in to something meaningless. It's like im talking to abunch of kids. Oh and the people that think they are smart because they can point out something wrong in your text.

Come on people lighten up! I took a seemingly harmless OPINION of Halo 3 and you guys are saying I'm stupid, or I'm BAD! WTF. If you don't have anything nice to say or pertaining to the subject-STFU!

And have a nice day.

  • 09.11.2012 2:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lord Popl

Posted by: snake kills you

Posted by: Lord Popl

Posted by: Screamo
sorry you suck at halo, doesn't mean the game doesn't take skill though.


I'm a pro......DUDE. I always win. FFA or Team.

Hold up mongoloid, nobody "always" wins. I guarantee you have lost at least 1 game. Go back to your mommas -blam!-.


wow......u guys took the most insignificant thing u could out of that and focussed on it......sad. You really didn't catch anything i was trying to say, clued in to something meaningless. It's like im talking to abunch of kids. Oh and the people that think they are smart because they can point out something wrong in your text.

Come on people lighten up! I took a seemingly harmless OPINION of Halo 3 and you guys are saying I'm stupid, or I'm BAD! WTF. If you don't have anything nice to say or pertaining to the subject-STFU!

And have a nice day.


bad troll.

  • 09.11.2012 2:38 PM PDT
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:)

  • 09.11.2012 11:42 PM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better

Em, well I actually sort of agree. It takes some skill, but not nearly as much as halo. There's a lot of variables which make it hard to take cod seriously.

In cod, there is no map control in pub games. It's only competitive in a competitive scene because people joining and leaving completely ruin map flow and balance.

Also, you don't start out with every option on the table. In cod you have to level up and unlock items which is very unbalanced. In Halo everyone has a shot at the best weapon and is given the same starting weapon.

As far as shooting and aiming I think it's hard to compare. There is far less aim assist and auto acceleration than any Halo game which is a plus. Bloom hurts the reliability of a gun, but burst firing it can increase the skill gap. I guess that balances out for cod.

I'm not a fan of hitscan (cod uses this) which ruins many games for me and is why I prefer Halo 3. Projectiles are more realistic and in halo 3's case they help balance the sandbox. Sniping obviously takes more skill in halo 3 than in any call of duty. I've always felt like there was a bigger skill gap in sniping in Halo 3 than Reach or Halo 2.

Black Ops 2 is going to have a win/loss system for ranked playlists. I believe there are going to be playlist specific restrictions. It may mean no drop in/drop out for those playlists. These are necessary changes if we are going to take cod seriously as a competitive game.

Also, there's things in halo like trick jumping/shortcuts that are not in call of duty at all. Head glitching and lines of sight could be the only counter cod has that halo doesn't.

[Edited on 09.12.2012 3:29 AM PDT]

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I definitely believe every wildly inflated claim ITT.

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i read the title and i disagree.

  • 09.12.2012 3:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: ShadowsKiller
lol

  • 09.12.2012 8:00 AM PDT

I haven't played H3 in a long time so I don't really know what it's like today, but when I did I had a negative KD and couldn't get past 40. I'm currently holding a 2+ KD in MW3 and at least a 1.5 in both MW2 and COD4. I'd say that about explains things.
Keep in mind that COD does require some skill to play due to the myriad of weapons that can 1 hit kill, but Halo takes a little more.
More than anything it takes teamwork, which is something that the COD franchise has never promoted.

  • 09.12.2012 9:27 AM PDT

halo 3 - you actually have to work as a team call out ect to obtain the highest rank

cod - do what ever you want and obtain 15th prestige or what ever its at now

  • 09.12.2012 6:14 PM PDT

I don't know why were still even comparing Cod to Halo...

  • 09.12.2012 9:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Surplex
I don't know why were still even comparing Cod to Halo...


I'm comparing them, but thats not the true point I was trying to convey.

All I'm saying is that halo 3 is not perfect. There are many things wrong with it that cannot be changed.

What im saying is some days u win every match and u massacre the enemy team."righ rankers or not". And then you might play some one that is so far beneath you, and they end up winning.

not by skill just by 70% luck with spawns and kept gettin random double kill fragz.

Then they brag about their SKILL.


qwqhbv this last sentence has nothing to do with wats above but how do you use italic's in text?

  • 09.13.2012 7:35 PM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better


Posted by: Lord Popl

Posted by: Surplex
I don't know why were still even comparing Cod to Halo...


I'm comparing them, but thats not the true point I was trying to convey.

All I'm saying is that halo 3 is not perfect. There are many things wrong with it that cannot be changed.

What im saying is some days u win every match and u massacre the enemy team."righ rankers or not". And then you might play some one that is so far beneath you, and they end up winning.

not by skill just by 70% luck with spawns and kept gettin random double kill fragz.

Then they brag about their SKILL.


qwqhbv this last sentence has nothing to do with wats above but how do you use italic's in text?


no game is perfect, but call of duty is not competitive in public matches at all. i already explained in detail why.

  • 09.13.2012 7:42 PM PDT

I would say it's about 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will.

This is an obvious troll thread, but I'll reply anyway. CoD and Halo are very different. It takes a lot longer to kill someone in Halo, (1v1 combat) so you need to keep a good constant aim the whole time. In CoD it is simply whoever sees the other person first gets the kill.

tl;dr. Halo 3 requires more aim, CoD requires more map awareness.

  • 09.13.2012 11:47 PM PDT

stop now! cod is about mentality, remenber that. Halo is about tactical/decision making gameplay. understand?

  • 09.14.2012 4:30 AM PDT

anyone can get highest level in CoD games, not everyone can in halo 3 ...

  • 09.15.2012 6:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: iTz Hermione
anyone can get highest level in CoD games, not everyone can in halo 3 ...


You sure put some thought into that.

  • 09.17.2012 12:59 PM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

You can win in CoD if you have the gun that shoots the fastest.
Halo has shields that counter that, though.

  • 09.18.2012 7:21 AM PDT

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Something Canada will never do.


Posted by: Lord Popl

Posted by: Surplex
I don't know why were still even comparing Cod to Halo...


I'm comparing them, but thats not the true point I was trying to convey.

All I'm saying is that halo 3 is not perfect. There are many things wrong with it that cannot be changed.

What im saying is some days u win every match and u massacre the enemy team."righ rankers or not". And then you might play some one that is so far beneath you, and they end up winning.

not by skill just by 70% luck with spawns and kept gettin random double kill fragz.

Then they brag about their SKILL.


lol. if you get 3 of your colonel friends, and i invite 3 random people off my friends list we would demolish you every single game. you can call it luck or whatever you want, but we would run you every game. that's because halo 3 takes quite a bit of skill, and you suck ass and are forced to make excuses.

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I definitely believe every wildly inflated claim ITT.

Weow kid, do you even lift?


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LOL.

I have played 3 games of social in about 4 months and I bet that if I got 3 people off my list who hardly play halo any more and you got 3 colonel buddies who still play daily, you'd get destroyed. 70% luck because of spawns?? If my team stayed on our side of the map the whole game you'd still lose. Lol. People who get a legit 50 are 50s for a reason, they're better than 99% of the ranks below them. Ive only ever run into a small % of players who were legitimately ranked lower than me and they were better. I found them in MLG.

  • 09.18.2012 2:55 PM PDT


Posted by: Screamo

Posted by: Lord Popl

Posted by: Surplex
I don't know why were still even comparing Cod to Halo...


I'm comparing them, but thats not the true point I was trying to convey.

All I'm saying is that halo 3 is not perfect. There are many things wrong with it that cannot be changed.

What im saying is some days u win every match and u massacre the enemy team."righ rankers or not". And then you might play some one that is so far beneath you, and they end up winning.

not by skill just by 70% luck with spawns and kept gettin random double kill fragz.

Then they brag about their SKILL.


lol. if you get 3 of your colonel friends, and i invite 3 random people off my friends list we would demolish you every single game. you can call it luck or whatever you want, but we would run you every game. that's because halo 3 takes quite a bit of skill, and you suck ass and are forced to make excuses.

As arrogant as Screamo is, he has a point here. Individual skill does play a big role in H3. Personally, I don't have much of it, but I have respect for those who do.

  • 09.20.2012 6:32 PM PDT
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Sometimes, I dream about cheese.

why do people keep going on about x takes less skill then y thus y > x threads?

who cares how much skill a game takes, doesn't it matter how much fun you have when playing it?

[Edited on 09.20.2012 11:49 PM PDT]

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Posted by: path1k
why do people keep going on about x takes less skill then y thus y > x threads?

who cares how much skill a game takes, doesn't it matter how much fun you have when playing it?


I agree, people should play whatever makes them happy but this topic is a troll of the year contender.

  • 09.22.2012 2:10 PM PDT

Yep

It is a matter of opinion.

  • 09.22.2012 2:40 PM PDT

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